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people worthy of respect get respected automatically, even if he didn't got greeted he shouldn't be so pathetic about it. Just because he was born earlier doesn't mean he's superior and youngers owe some sort obligation towards him.
Doesn't matter which younger group he's talking about, he's showing karen behaviour
Is there any country where that wouldn’t be considered disrespectful?
people worthy of respect get respected automatically, even if he didn't got greeted he shouldn't be so pathetic about it
Hmm that's a cultural thing, koreans care a lot about greeting/bowing. Some idols like Hyoyeon and Ateez talked about the same topic before, and while I wouldn't make a fuss about it, that's my vision as a non-korean.
But anyway, sometimes I wish they don't share these stories because people start to speculate.
tbh i didn't go futher in my research
maybe in the past fans saw a video of IVE members not bowing, maybe they often promote together because it's the 2nd time he talked about it etc....
Doesn't matter which younger group he's talking about, he's showing karen behaviour
well it matter because people are attacking any groups now without any reason
and i'm not disagreeing about the fact that i find his behaviour "problematic"
I do understand from where he's coming, he wants to be transparent and honest with his fans about the behind the scene of kpop
But i'm not okay with the fact of talking about other group behaviour even if you don't mention them, because we all know how Kpop fans can be stupid, it'll turns into a witch hunt, with his fans attacking every group they think disrepected him, and it'll just bring hate to this group all of this because a guy got mad that someone didn't bow to him
he's very much aware of how much rabid and toxic kpop fandoms are and how much damage his comments can cause but he's gotta do bitchcrying on vlive because some random junior didn't bowed to him lol wtf does he thinks he's some king or what. I can see why he's getting ignored by youngsters, he's got boomer karen mentality.
I do understand from where he's coming, he wants to be transparent and honest with his fans about the behind the scene of kpop
more serious issues to be transparent about than someone forgetting to greet them back in a chaotic situation
like common
every idol that makes an issue out of this gives me boomer energy
I think it's important too to not drag other groups/idols while doing so. He know he has really big fandom and how kpop fans can be vile towards other artists when their idols said something. He can be honest about his company management, mistreatment he received or anything but not this kind of honesty. It's not worth it to make other idols getting bullied with his fans over something so silly like this. Yes he didn't drop any name but it make it worse cuz his fans can attack wrong group while he just watching them doing so innocently.
He know what he do and he's so wrong about this.
he has the right to discuss this stuff with his fans on his social media and stream, so fans of other groups should just stfu and his fans should also stfu and stop speculating
he didn't name any names, he's allowed to feel annoyed
and vice versa other people have right to call him a karen
Why is everything assuming its ive and what clown 🤡 🤡 is throwing mysogny around 💀💀🤡🤡 the fuck? People mad about him need to touch grass and get a life . Now as far as greetings go it's not Karen behavior, people talking should STFU unless you Korean. Respect, greetings etc is VERY VERY SERIOUS here it's a big deal in our culture. Even more so in a job environment especially something like kpop or the entertainment industry. Some young group not greeting senior idols or a senior staff ir executive is the fastest way for them to wonder why they have no comebacks no love calls to come do commercials, modeling deals, no drama or movie offers among other things. So someone being disrespectful regardless of talent will get left behind. The industry is extremely competitive and cut throat. Example for the one Jungkook out there. I have ten others looking to take his place. Most people in the industry are replaceable. Not everyone but most are so you do everything you can to maintain your position and stay ahead of the competition. There's a reason people like Jungkook is on top being humble and respectful is one of those reasons.
and vice versa other people have right to call him a karen
people love to villainize him for nothing, just another pointless witchhunt by mindless, scandal-hungry, drama wanting people, i'm tired, social media hurt a whole generation, people overreact to anything, in one breath people are like "DON'T ATTACK IDOLS FOR ANYTHING, ALLOW THEM TO ACT NORMAL AND CARELESS AND CAREFREE AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS" and in another it's "BURN THE WITCH" and then it'll be like, "why did another young celebrity die? how did this happen, wow people need to stop"
people love to villainize him for nothing, just another pointless witchhunt by mindless, scandal-hungry, drama wanting people, i'm tired, social media hurt a whole generation, people overreact to anything, in one breath people are like "DON'T ATTACK IDOLS FOR ANYTHING, ALLOW THEM TO ACT NORMAL AND CARELESS AND CAREFREE AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS" and in another it's "BURN THE WITCH" and then it'll be like, "why did another young celebrity die? how did this happen, wow people need to stop"
Bruh he's the one who's starting witchhunt of younger groups by his rabid fandom through irresponsible comments like these on vlive.
Is there any country where that wouldn’t be considered disrespectful?
well... I was just wondering if it was more disrespectful in other countries and stuff.
he has the right to discuss this stuff with his fans on his social media and stream, so fans of other groups should just stfu and his fans should also stfu and stop speculating
he didn't name any names, he's allowed to feel annoyed
well considering they are adult
wouldn't be better to just go to the person who didn't bow and tell them " i'm your senior, you didn't bow i find this disrepectful" than just go on live and say someone didn't bow to me i find this disrepectful ?
and if he already went to them to talk about it, then what's the point to bring this stuff on live, if everything is clear now
i don't know but i just find this more mature to do, than doing on live
nobody is telling him to not complaint when serious things happen
but for someone who ddidn't bow ? especially considering that he was born and raised in australia so the whole thing of Bowing doesn't have as much importance to him than a koreans who was born and grew in korea where bowin is everything
Someone should lock bangchan with bunch of 4th gen juniors and start the yaja time game. He'd explode 😂
I think it's important too to not drag other groups/idols while doing so. He know he has really big fandom and how kpop fans can be vile towards other artists when their idols said something. He can be honest about his company management, mistreatment he received or anything but not this kind of honesty. It's not worth it to make other idols getting bullied with his fans over something so silly like this. Yes he didn't drop any name but it make it worse cuz his fans can attack wrong group while he just watching them doing so innocently.
He know what he do and he's so wrong about
He is responsible for his words, not how other people interpret it. And even If It's not on his blame anyone's education, he has called out his fans' behavior multiple times. Not one time. Neither two. Multiple. For exactly these type of things.
I personally don't even think this is an important subject to be discussed passionately about. He's just sharing a bad experience he had. I'm already used to him being controversial and I know It will happen again, so I'm saving energy.
Read my previous comment.
I feel like whether a certain action is important or not to a country, should be up to the people who are from that country. I personally think he didn’t mean to start anything, but again people should think before speaking. Also why did people assume it was my girls IVE? From what I know they don’t even really have interaction, except for a few here and there.
Not his fault lol 😂 if clown 🤡 ass fans want to start a witch hunt that's on them not his responsibility to control how other people respond. Funny how nobody says this same bullshit when a scandal of some sort is put up by dispatch or someone else about anonymous person A 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 , double standards 🤡🤡🤡 this isn't a male or female issue either other prominent female celebrities have addressed stuff like this too but none got this clown show response. Even more 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 is he never said who or what group or their gender 🤡🤡 soo wtf? Is everyone losing their minds over?
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