[enter-talk] IDOLS NEED TO HAVE SINGING SKILLS VS THEY CAN REPLACE IT WITH LIP SYNCING AND ARE ALLOWED TO BE BAD SINGERS


  • [enter-talk] IDOLS NEED TO HAVE SINGING SKILLS VS THEY CAN REPLACE IT WITH LIP SYNCING AND ARE ALLOWED TO BE BAD SINGERS


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    If you think that idols should be fundamentally singers and need to be able to sing - upvote
    If you think that idols are all about visuals and that they can substitute singing with lip syncing and are allowed to be bad singers - vote down



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    original post: here


    1. [+357, -5]
    Definitely need singing skills. Lip syncing is ruining all of k-pop


    2. [+341, -1]
    IF they can't sing, then I hope they'd perform without holding a mic


    3. [+280, -1]
    Of course they need the basic skills


    4. [+263, -72]
    Lee Sooman who got a bunch of hate for saying that lip syncing was also a genre messed the whole industry. Just look at the SM-roaches saying that AR is also live. Just follow Minji and go to the mental hospital


    5. [+225, -10]
    Then how are people even fangirling on idols who are both bad singers and ugly? There are so many tone deaf idols in the industry


    6. [+121, -1]
    Nobody is asking idols to be able to sing as well as solo singers. They are just asked to be able to sing their own given part properly. The point is that if you're not even able to sing that part, then don't come out saying you're a singer. If you're unable to sing while sitting still, then don't come out calling yourself a singer and perform on stage. Just stick to dancing



    [enter-talk] IDOLS NEED TO HAVE SINGING SKILLS VS THEY CAN REPLACE IT WITH LIP SYNCING AND ARE ALLOWED TO BE BAD SINGERS
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    Just look at the SM-roaches saying that AR is also live. Just follow Minji and go to the mental hospital

    nah but people are really busting veins over Wonyoung's lip sync


    Why are people only targeting Aespa and Ive?


    You are literally itching for their fandoms to hit you back

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  • sorry to the Wonyoung girlie for being the black sheep in this just because she was the most popular one but Kpop kinda needs this scandal because it seems that people are becoming increasingly aware of idols lipsyncing and I'm here for it. One day K-pop will win the fight against the lip sync demon that is Lee Sooman and that will be a good day for all ;(

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  • Tbh lip syncing on its own is an after effect, the cause is fans don't care or excuse it. Labels see that and go with the flow with more LS perfs because they know everyone is doing it and no real repercussions from it.


    I've seen comments regularly like the dance is to hard so they need to LS. Really? If the dance is too hard then either it needs to be toned down or the idols simply aren't talented enough to sing and dance in the first place.


    Sure the occasional LS here and there can be understood because of hectic schedules or lack of health but when it's an entire promo cycle, end of year events and maybe even concerts then it goes beyond just an excuse and becomes a habit.

  • Tbh lip syncing on its own is an after effect, the cause is fans don't care or excuse it. Labels see that and go with the flow with more LS perfs because they know everyone is doing it.


    I've seen comments regularly like the dance is to hard so they need to LS. Really? If the dance is too hard then either it needs to be toned down or the idols simply aren't talented enough to sing and dance in the first place.


    Sure the occasional LS here and there can be understood because of hectic schedules or lack of health but when it's an entire promo cycle, end of year events and maybe even concerts then it goes beyond just an excuse and becomes a habit.

    Indeed...if dancing is so important to them they should just follow dance crews instead.

  • sorry to the Wonyoung girlie for being the black sheep in this just because she was the most popular one but Kpop kinda needs this scandal because it seems that people are becoming increasingly aware of idols lipsyncing and I'm here for it. One day K-pop will win the fight against the lip sync demon that is Lee Sooman and that will be a good day for all ;(

    I feel it’s the opposite over the years the lip sync has only gotten worse and sales and streams are the highest they’ve ever been. Small internet silos or haters of wonyoung who won’t even spend on IVE dont really represent anything.

  • Do you want them to dance or sing?


    Is hard to do both.

  • Do you want them to dance or sing?


    Is hard to do both.

    Do both. Doing both is what they've been training for 3, 5 or 10 years. If after all that time + years of post debut experience they can't sing and dance to a decent level without relying on LS then they're kinda useless. Idols years ago used to regularly sing live while dancing. SNSD and Kara are examples from that time (though even they had to LS on recent music shows which is shows how sad the state of Kpop is).

  • nah but people are really busting veins over Wonyoung's lip sync


    Why are people only targeting Aespa and Ive?


    You are literally itching for their fandoms to hit you back

    This is how you know they are the biggest female groups of the year


    2021 for aespa

    2022 for IVE


    We just need to see who gets the most hate this year in 2023 to know who is the top GG


    So far it is still IVE because of the recent lipsyncing scandal in 2023 so we will need to see which female group can top IVE's hate, then we know they are the biggest.


    ;judgingpepe:

  • Do both. Doing both is what they've been training for 3, 5 or 10 years. If after all that time + years of post debut experience they can't sing and dance to a decent level without relying on LS then they're kinda useless. Idols years ago used to regularly sing live while dancing. SNSD and Kara are examples from that time (though even they had to LS on recent music shows which is shows how sad the state of Kpop is).

    There are music shows 6 days a week. Plus other performances during the same day.


    I have no issue with them lip-syncing in music shows or when they go on variety shows.


    They definitely should sing live in concerts.


    Award shows are more iffy, as they are a step above weekly music shows, so I can see why the fans may be upset about lip-syncing on award shows.

  • Coming in 2023, "the reason why NewJeans does not go to many shows is because they can't sing and dance".

  • aka you know you've hit the big leagues the more "scandals" one has...


    I'm LSM I can attest to this PERSONALLY ;-)

  • I feel it’s the opposite over the years the lip sync has only gotten worse and sales and streams are the highest they’ve ever been. Small internet silos or haters of wonyoung who won’t even spend on IVE dont really represent anything.

    Yeah definitely it has gotten worse. And I'm not really expecting a huge change but hopefully this scandal is a step in the right direction. I noticed idols voices were more prominent at GDA today so that's a start.

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