Is Aespa better than Red Velvet?

wasn't red velvet competing with bp and twice during their peaks? maybe that's why?

also aespas sales are much higher then red velvets ever was so we already know they are doing better on that front..

this is a question for the boomer and chart stans

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this is a question for the boomer and chart stans

atropos give us the stats?

they are doing better cus nct fans supported aespa

No.

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they are doing better cus nct fans supported aespa

Better? Def not. More interesting to me? Yes.

With Boy groups logenvity and Aespa's big female fanbase/sudden succes, I'm starting to believe groups with bigger female fanbase do better on the long run.

Red Velvet has some amazing songs but their good girl image doesn't sell well intl.

NGL your new thread title is worse than what you had it as

Not saying who’s better but I prefer RedVelvet

I also think RV is much more in synch while talking about group performance

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NGL your new thread title is worse than what you had it as

ikr. The title is more baity now

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ikr. The title is more baity now

I mean that can be considered a better title if that was the goal but I think Marmalade too pure for that

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but isn't Aespa competing with much mroe competition right now?

They have IVE, Blackpink, TWICE, NEWJeans, ITZY etc.?

Isn't it harder?

when they had their hit next level they were really only competing with itzy i think

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atropos give us the stats?

I think it's better to ask someone who has better knowledge on rv earlier career. But I do think aespa is a a bit bigger than rv was back then in sk? They have a edge on that because they scored a national level very soon into their career. And aespa is very strong with album sales.

International no point comparing Spotify and yt since those grew more with time and 4th gen has that benefit from beginning.

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In all seriousness Aespa is slightly more talented.

You can't be serious.

Aespa never sing live, and literal zombies would make for better dancers, to say nothing of their abysmal stage presence. Even if they somehow improved in all of those areas, they still wouldn't have Kpop's female jack-of-all-trades, while RV would.

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SM seemed to work harder for Red Velvet promotion but it seems for Aespa's promotion works better?

SM has gone way harder for aespa than they ever did for rv internationally.

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They rap better

None of them are legitimate rappers (very few Kpop idols are), but Giselle has the most obnoxious voice not belonging to anyone named Jimin. RV wins by default.

NObody is better than Red Velvet

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None of them are legitimate rappers (very few Kpop idols are), but Giselle has the most obnoxious voice not belonging to anyone named Jimin. RV wins by default.

and you think RV somehow has good rappers? the yeri and irene duo is far worse then anything i've heard giselle rap

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not even Itzy?

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and you think RV somehow has good rappers? the yeri and irene duo is far worse then anything i've heard giselle rap

Did you even read what I said? No, I don't think "RV somehow has good rappers." They just don't make my ears bleed like Giselle's whack Betty Boop impersonations.

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Did you even read what I said? No, I don't think "RV somehow has good rappers." They just don't make my ears bleed like Giselle's whack Betty Boop impersonations.

and what about karinas rap?

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btw, your signature is dope

Aww thanks! ^{(don't get my wrong I love the girls in ITZY, just find alot more of there music to be a miss for me compared to RV)}

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But not national, that's what I'm talking about. International is hard to compare.

It's not hard to compare. Aespa has gotten way more international / USA exposure without any song doing as well as psycho. Their koreans promo for savage was fine? They skipped korean promos for girls for international one.