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    On Nov 14, Korea had its annual university entrance exam.


    Every year idols sometimes record clips to encourage their fans to do well in these tests.


    The views of such clips kind of tell how popular an act is among Koreans who are around 18 years old, who are the average age cohort tho takes such exams (those who fail can take as many as they can in subsequent years but they do not form the majority)


    Only clips having to do with Korean Pop will be counted.

    (All figures as of the time of writing)

    NewJeans 310k

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    IU 138k

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    Seventeen 125k

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    IVE 67k

    LeSserafim 59k

    Izna 53k

    Ateez 47k

    Fromis 9 44k

    Illit 42k

    NMixx 39k

    ZB1 37k

    Plave 37k

    Itzy35k

    TWS 27k

    Kiss of Life 21k

    Choi Yena 21k

    Monsta X 19k

    Chuu 19k

    Jo Yuri 17k

    Unis 17k

    The Boyz 17k

    The current iteration of fifty fifty 16k

    Kim Jaejoong 16k

    Viviz, Mamamoo, WJSN, BtoB, Say My Name (Jaejoong's new group) - above 10k.

    (For whatever reason, aespa does not record such clips.)

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    The figures do not lie.


    Among the 18 years olds of Korea, the most popular act is New Jeans.


    But #2 is very surprising - someone who debuted on 2008,when most of the test takers were born around 2006, is #2, above everyone else!


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    The former owner of Edam Entertainment has recorded a message from 2008, when she just had debuted.


    She recorded it in 2009 and 2011.

    She probably recorded it in 2012, but since virtually every male in South Korea was fuming because of her most famous photo with anchovy, her presence would have been more annoying than encouraging so not released.

    She recorded it on 2013 and 2014, didn't on 2015 and 2016,

    but has done it since 2017, every year (there are 2 2019s, and one of them was done in 2018)


    So, among the fans of the former owner of Edam Entertainment, it has kind of become a season's greeting, so even though she is now getting quite older than those who are taking the test , she is continuing to record such messages.


    And the KPop acts who debuted subsequently have a hard time overcoming someone who debuted in the 2nd Generation, showing how far they have to go in order to unseat her in Korea at least.


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    Most recent BTS clip of such - 2022, 2.7M

    That might be because Day6 was not too famous before their military service so they would rise higher

    I tend to skirt the lines quite well


    I do not accuse her personal life or habits, just discussing the harm she has caused to KPop.

    Napoleon was born in Corsica, when it was not really part of France.

    The Duke of Wellington was born in Dublin, Ireland, something he felt ashamed of for the rest of his life.

    Gebhard von Blucher was born in Rostock, Germany, which was often ruled by Sweden, Denmark and various other powers


    BTS was born in various parts of Korea

    Roseanne Park, MBE, was born in Auckland , New Zealand

    Christopher Bang, sometimes called Bang Chan, was born in Seoul, Korea, something he does not really try to emphasize since he is known as an Australian and does not prefer to talk about his birthplace which will be used by some to try to drag him to the military


    When BTS would make its comeback, I thought a worldwide effort against it, with famous names like Taylor Swift, Morgan Wallen and Post Malone, launching a huge effort to crush it , with the whole world watching.


    However, with Roseanne Park, MBE's small effort with Bruno Mars completely obliterating KPop's entire basis, humbling aespa, ending Illit and the 5th Gen, now a footnote called the 4.5th Gen, and forcing the Senior Singer to hide,


    for the giants of Pop, the weakeness of KPop would have been now clearly exposed, and a minimal effort could defuse the giant called BTS once for all.


    A collabo between Roseanne Park , MBE, born in New Zealand and Christopher Bang, born in Korea, would be quite powerful, very hard for BTS to overcome, and if the Roseanne Park - Christopher Bang collabo beats BTS' title, that is the end of BTS and the end of KPop.


    Neither of them are Koreans, although Christopher Bang is an ex-Korean, and they know how to play the Korean music industry very well, while Hybe is at its nadir, something which is unlikely to be repaired in 2025 since the damage was so extensive. It took SM almost 7 years to recover from the fiascos in 2014, when aespa's Next Level became a national hit which almost put SM back to the throne until the Senior Singer defeated it .


    A Roseanne Park - Christopher Bang collabo at the decisive moment will be the perfect weapon to defeat BTS once for all.

    Such as? If you think Trump is specifically going to sign some sort of anti-Kpop bill, you've lost (the remainder of) your marbles. You're just using him for petty scaremongering, while Americans have very real concerns & fears right now. It's like someone in the 1930s proposing that Hitler is going to cancel saturday morning cartoons.

    All Trump has to do to weaken KPop is to strengthen visa requirements for KPop singers, making it much, much harder for them to enter USA for concerts.


    People with citizenships in Five Eyes, such as Roseanne Park , MBE, Christopher Bang, Felix Lee, Pham Ngoc Han or Danielle Marsh could be allowed somewhat better terms, but none of the BTS members qualify.

    One of my recent cultural shocks was interacting with bunch of American high schoolers and college kids, and they know SKZ more, are into them and treat BTS as some legacy act.. a bit later to dinosaurs ..


    Felt very old

    Out of sight, out of mind.


    While you were elsewhere I wrote about this topic quite a few times with armies trying to debunk me


    And I am proven right again.

    Stray Kids is already surpassed BTS, their audience is younger and they will grow up in the next 2 years, so Stray Kids will surely secure #1 BG spot


    IU and Day6 have musical talents so they can impress the public by live performance. Qwer - I had read it was formed from influencers which means this group is pure lookism + cheap twitch/yt/afreecatv style of hype. Soyeon's participation ensured me to avoid them.

    Yes, next year SKZ will reach the top.

    And Christopher Bang and Felix Lee will NOT serve in the Korean military.

    Somewhere I read that the total views of KPop artists for Nov 5, 2023 - Nov 5, 2024 are like that


    Global

    BP 3.61b

    BTS 3.55b

    SKZ 2.43b

    Baemon 2.12b

    NJ 2.02b

    aespa 1.84b

    Twice 1.65b

    Gidle 1.65b

    Le Sserafim 1.64b

    Seventeen 1.54b

    Jennie 1.36b

    IVE 1.27b

    They are acts which had more than 1 billion views


    USA

    BTS 244m

    SKZ 231m

    BP 171m

    NJ 131m

    LS 97m

    TW 91m

    Jennie 86m

    Enhypen 80m

    aespa 76m

    gidle 74m

    Ateez 72m

    SVT 62m

    txt 59m

    IVE 56m


    Japan

    TW 402m

    BTS 352

    SKZ 309

    SVT 258

    NJ 239

    LS 228

    IVE 172

    aespa 160

    BP 128

    Gidle 107

    XG 102

    txt 100


    And, now , Korea


    NJ 573m

    aespa 466

    IU 442

    Day6 433

    IVE 400

    Gidle 308

    LS 289

    SV 255

    Qwer 245

    BP 212

    BTS 200


    Source

    https://gall.dcinside.com/m/gaon/8068148 (In Korean)


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    IVE is clearly in decline

    aespa did not recover its lost ground and still have some ways to go

    New Jeans still retains Korea after all these

    Twice still rules Japan

    Stray Kids have now almost caught up with BTS, and if, as rumored, BTS does not make a comeback in 2025 SKZ will overcome BTS.


    BP is #1 in the world but not too relevant in Korea anymore


    BTS completely abandoned by Korea, making its military service a complete waste of time. I have said for a million times that they should have ditched Korea


    And, the Korean taste is quite strange

    People like IU, Day6 and Qwer do not get ranked in other country's charts

    but the Koreans still consume them


    The inconsistency had reached its height in 2022 when IU was the most viewed singer in Korea, above BTS and BP


    The Korean preference of people like IU, Day6 and qwer makes it the country which is the most hostile to Kpop.