Ending the flop allegations most flops would just disband after military
Day6 truly paved the way for nugus
Nugus do not debut in JYPE
Ending the flop allegations most flops would just disband after military
Day6 truly paved the way for nugus
Nugus do not debut in JYPE
On Nov 14, Korea had its annual university entrance exam.
Every year idols sometimes record clips to encourage their fans to do well in these tests.
The views of such clips kind of tell how popular an act is among Koreans who are around 18 years old, who are the average age cohort tho takes such exams (those who fail can take as many as they can in subsequent years but they do not form the majority)
Only clips having to do with Korean Pop will be counted.
(All figures as of the time of writing)
NewJeans 310k
IU 138k
Seventeen 125k
IVE 67k
LeSserafim 59k
Izna 53k
Ateez 47k
Fromis 9 44k
Illit 42k
NMixx 39k
ZB1 37k
Plave 37k
Itzy35k
TWS 27k
Kiss of Life 21k
Choi Yena 21k
Monsta X 19k
Chuu 19k
Jo Yuri 17k
Unis 17k
The Boyz 17k
The current iteration of fifty fifty 16k
Kim Jaejoong 16k
Viviz, Mamamoo, WJSN, BtoB, Say My Name (Jaejoong's new group) - above 10k.
(For whatever reason, aespa does not record such clips.)
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The figures do not lie.
Among the 18 years olds of Korea, the most popular act is New Jeans.
But #2 is very surprising - someone who debuted on 2008,when most of the test takers were born around 2006, is #2, above everyone else!
The former owner of Edam Entertainment has recorded a message from 2008, when she just had debuted.
She recorded it in 2009 and 2011.
She probably recorded it in 2012, but since virtually every male in South Korea was fuming because of her most famous photo with anchovy, her presence would have been more annoying than encouraging so not released.
She recorded it on 2013 and 2014, didn't on 2015 and 2016,
but has done it since 2017, every year (there are 2 2019s, and one of them was done in 2018)
So, among the fans of the former owner of Edam Entertainment, it has kind of become a season's greeting, so even though she is now getting quite older than those who are taking the test , she is continuing to record such messages.
And the KPop acts who debuted subsequently have a hard time overcoming someone who debuted in the 2nd Generation, showing how far they have to go in order to unseat her in Korea at least.
Most recent BTS clip of such - 2022, 2.7M
Display MoreMost BGs tend to either die out post military, or members tend to focus on their solo careers rather than prioritise activities as a group
But that isn't the case with Day6
I don't think there is a BG that became even bigger post military as a group.
Right now Day6 still has 2 songs in Melon weekly top 10, and they could possibly break Big Bang's record by year end if this continue.
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Their digital points this year is even higher than the rest of the company combined. They are still the BG with the most points total.
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Even with aespa + Jennie + Rose + GD comeback, those powerhouses are unable to knock Day6 out of the Top 10 as they still have 2 song in the top 5, and 5 songs in the Top 10.
At one point of the time Day6 has 4 out of the 5 songs in the Top 5 belonging to Day6. And the songs are from different era, with YWB from 2017, TOOL from 2019, WTTS & Happy from March 2024, Melt Down recently few weeks back.
Payola Twist don't have the level of longevity as Day6 does despite having the most points for a BG.
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I wonder when will we ever see a group that has 2 songs like YWB and TOOL from 5 and 7 years ago still slaying the charts
Only Big Bang ever achieved this but now Day6 got it too
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The biggest hits to ever come out of JYPE
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And Day6 is about to have their biggest concert ever
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I've never see a group this strong despite majority of people thinking that military is the end for most BGs.
Day6 truly paved the way and prove that with good music, success will find you either way
Now stream Happy
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That might be because Day6 was not too famous before their military service so they would rise higher
SNSD in 2010 and 2011 would have different opinions
Display MoreHope you aren't in the list.
Where is the story that "Korea-First" K-popper IU toured the US this year, only to campaign in secrect for "America First" Trump, both aligned against globalisation.
That's her revenge against BTS-BLM-Biden alliance of 2020.
Come on.. Make a story out of that
I tend to skirt the lines quite well
I do not accuse her personal life or habits, just discussing the harm she has caused to KPop.
Spy...? Like ...North Korean
Yes, someone actually accused her for that
https://www.korea*boo.com/news/iu-north-korean-spy-netizens-left-dumbfounded-ridiculous-flyers/
Napoleon was born in Corsica, when it was not really part of France.
The Duke of Wellington was born in Dublin, Ireland, something he felt ashamed of for the rest of his life.
Gebhard von Blucher was born in Rostock, Germany, which was often ruled by Sweden, Denmark and various other powers
BTS was born in various parts of Korea
Roseanne Park, MBE, was born in Auckland , New Zealand
Christopher Bang, sometimes called Bang Chan, was born in Seoul, Korea, something he does not really try to emphasize since he is known as an Australian and does not prefer to talk about his birthplace which will be used by some to try to drag him to the military
When BTS would make its comeback, I thought a worldwide effort against it, with famous names like Taylor Swift, Morgan Wallen and Post Malone, launching a huge effort to crush it , with the whole world watching.
However, with Roseanne Park, MBE's small effort with Bruno Mars completely obliterating KPop's entire basis, humbling aespa, ending Illit and the 5th Gen, now a footnote called the 4.5th Gen, and forcing the Senior Singer to hide,
for the giants of Pop, the weakeness of KPop would have been now clearly exposed, and a minimal effort could defuse the giant called BTS once for all.
A collabo between Roseanne Park , MBE, born in New Zealand and Christopher Bang, born in Korea, would be quite powerful, very hard for BTS to overcome, and if the Roseanne Park - Christopher Bang collabo beats BTS' title, that is the end of BTS and the end of KPop.
Neither of them are Koreans, although Christopher Bang is an ex-Korean, and they know how to play the Korean music industry very well, while Hybe is at its nadir, something which is unlikely to be repaired in 2025 since the damage was so extensive. It took SM almost 7 years to recover from the fiascos in 2014, when aespa's Next Level became a national hit which almost put SM back to the throne until the Senior Singer defeated it .
A Roseanne Park - Christopher Bang collabo at the decisive moment will be the perfect weapon to defeat BTS once for all.
Unfortunately it is rumored that it is a clip of the senior singer.
Such as? If you think Trump is specifically going to sign some sort of anti-Kpop bill, you've lost (the remainder of) your marbles. You're just using him for petty scaremongering, while Americans have very real concerns & fears right now. It's like someone in the 1930s proposing that Hitler is going to cancel saturday morning cartoons.
All Trump has to do to weaken KPop is to strengthen visa requirements for KPop singers, making it much, much harder for them to enter USA for concerts.
People with citizenships in Five Eyes, such as Roseanne Park , MBE, Christopher Bang, Felix Lee, Pham Ngoc Han or Danielle Marsh could be allowed somewhat better terms, but none of the BTS members qualify.
Given that the trends have changed, not as impressive as some remaining armies might think
the fans will be mostly in their 30s
Are you a clairvoyant? Because we aren't living in a totalitarian society where all media is controlled by the government... yet.
There will be measures which will make it much harder for KPop acts to operate and chart higher and also have larger scale concerts
Yeah,but they have to sing in English,and have to make American music. What's the point of kpop then ?
They will sing English but KPop will consider them as a KPop song
Out of sight, out of mind.
While you were elsewhere I wrote about this topic quite a few times with armies trying to debunk me
And I am proven right again.
Stray Kids is already surpassed BTS, their audience is younger and they will grow up in the next 2 years, so Stray Kids will surely secure #1 BG spot
IU and Day6 have musical talents so they can impress the public by live performance. Qwer - I had read it was formed from influencers which means this group is pure lookism + cheap twitch/yt/afreecatv style of hype. Soyeon's participation ensured me to avoid them.
Yes, next year SKZ will reach the top.
And Christopher Bang and Felix Lee will NOT serve in the Korean military.
Somewhere I read that the total views of KPop artists for Nov 5, 2023 - Nov 5, 2024 are like that
Global
BP 3.61b
BTS 3.55b
Baemon 2.12b
NJ 2.02b
Twice 1.65b
Gidle 1.65b
Le Sserafim 1.64b
Seventeen 1.54b
Jennie 1.36b
IVE 1.27b
They are acts which had more than 1 billion views
USA
BTS 244m
SKZ 231m
BP 171m
NJ 131m
LS 97m
TW 91m
Jennie 86m
Enhypen 80m
aespa 76m
gidle 74m
Ateez 72m
SVT 62m
txt 59m
IVE 56m
Japan
TW 402m
BTS 352
SKZ 309
SVT 258
NJ 239
LS 228
IVE 172
aespa 160
BP 128
Gidle 107
XG 102
txt 100
And, now , Korea
NJ 573m
aespa 466
IU 442
Day6 433
IVE 400
Gidle 308
LS 289
SV 255
Qwer 245
BP 212
BTS 200
Source
https://gall.dcinside.com/m/gaon/8068148 (In Korean)
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Results
IVE is clearly in decline
aespa did not recover its lost ground and still have some ways to go
New Jeans still retains Korea after all these
Twice still rules Japan
Stray Kids have now almost caught up with BTS, and if, as rumored, BTS does not make a comeback in 2025 SKZ will overcome BTS.
BP is #1 in the world but not too relevant in Korea anymore
BTS completely abandoned by Korea, making its military service a complete waste of time. I have said for a million times that they should have ditched Korea
And, the Korean taste is quite strange
People like IU, Day6 and Qwer do not get ranked in other country's charts
but the Koreans still consume them
The inconsistency had reached its height in 2022 when IU was the most viewed singer in Korea, above BTS and BP
The Korean preference of people like IU, Day6 and qwer makes it the country which is the most hostile to Kpop.
Probably another 'girl crush' act
Kpop is done for thanks Roseanne park
It showed the limits of KPop for sure