Kpop is done for thanks Roseanne park
It showed the limits of KPop for sure
Kpop is done for thanks Roseanne park
It showed the limits of KPop for sure
APT. was arguably the strongest song which could plausibly called KPop, but it has dropped out from the top 10 of Billboard Hot 100.
Radio play has taken a big importance, and with Trump's return, the radio DJs are not too likely to play songs originating from Korea.
JK had done the impossible last year with Seven, which is likely to be the last KPop song to top Billboard Hot 100. If Roseanne Park, OBE, who is not a Korean, a native English speaker and combining forces with a singer who used to be famous , could not make it no one who could be considered Korean can do that.
Why Bang did not re-launch a tour in late 2021 - 2022 is only known to himself.
All these BTS solos eventually amounted to, I have to say, nothing , except JK's Seven.
Instead one of Agust D's solo songs was used by a rabid ultraconservative politician to drag all of them to the military.
JYP was smart not to allow Twice any solo songs till a number of years had passed.
It is rumored that BTS won't return till 2026 now, since no one knows how pop will progress in 2025. It will not be 2021 or 2022, for sure.
APT. had the best chance to top Hot 100 yet it peaked at #8.
If Rose can't do that who can?
History will record BTS not abandoning Korea as the most foolish business decision in the entire history of Pop.
I don't know the latest stats.
But I recollect in 2020-21 they were the most famous in the world.
• Lionel Richie |
• Stevie Wonder |
• Paul Simon |
• Kenny Rogers |
• James Ingram |
• Tina Turner |
• Billy Joel |
• Michael Jackson |
• Diana Ross |
• Dionne Warwick |
• Willie Nelson |
• Al Jarreau |
• Bruce Springsteen |
• Kenny Loggins |
• Steve Perry |
• Daryl Hall |
• Huey Lewis |
• Cyndi Lauper |
• Kim Carnes |
• Bob Dylan |
• Ray Charles |
In Apr 2022 yes
Only people like Mariah Carey, who is now only relevant around the Holiday season, and IU, who saw BTS coming from nowhere when she was already Korean Pop's biggest star (arguably), had no respect on it.
Is BTS the most famous artists in the world or not?
In 2021 it was
It beat the runner up, The Weeknd, by a margin of 2:1
Everyone else was so scared that they hid themselves, and IU, a domestic singer, rose to the #9 most awarded singer of the world because everyone else had chosen to hide,
(The original tweet has been deleted but I have saved a copy of that.)
1 BTS
2 The Weeknd
3 Ed Sheeran
4 Taylor Swift
5 Olivia Rodrigo
6 Justin Bieber, Hybe at that time
7 Dua Ripa
8 Meghan Thee Stallion, there only because she participated in 'Butter'
9
IU, a domestic singer in Korea
Display MoreA Touring Powerhouse. A fan can buy an album. A fan can purchase digital music but the real test is getting these fans to make the journey, buy an expensive concert ticket and be able to get enough of them to sell out a stadium and sell out a tour
“In March 2022, the most expensive BTS tickets sold on StubHub were standing tickets for the first and third shows of the tour, costing $31,565 each. This price included taxes and fees.”
There aren’t a lot of acts that can do it.
A touring house who did not tour
A domesticist, IU, enters London before BTS post covid
Display MoreON THE BILLBOARD HOT 100 :
Their first TOP 10 hit was in 2018 with FAKE LOVE
Their first TOP 8 hit was in 2019 WITH BOY WITH LUV ft. HALSEY
Their first TOP 4 hit was early 2020 with ON
Their first NO. 1 was late 2020 with DYNAMITE (their first english single)
their second NO. 1 was SAVAGE LOVE (Laxed – Siren Beat) with Jawsh 685 & Jason Derulo
their third NO. 1 was even later in 2020 with LIFE GOES ON (first korean song to hit number 1)
They got so popular they were able to stay #1 for seven weeks with BUTTER and then REPLACE themselves at number 1 with PTD
So tell me, where is the "fraudulence" people like to associate them with?
Because only a natural organic ™ growth allows you to see such solid results
This aint a case of one day stay virality
or #80 to #1 when the check hits and back to #80??
This is a case of growing popularity and a SOLID fanbase
and I cant believe that that's a concept so difficult to understand in big 2024 but that's another topic for another day
What scared the music industry, be it the kpop industry or the US music industry was that they were here to stay and continuously growing in popularity.
They did
The entire world, with the exception of one person, was shocked
However the Koreans supported the one person who was not impressed by BTS' success..
Sounds like a hip hop song
And it is said that she won't show up at the Melon Music Awards
Billie Eilish campaigned for Kamala Harris during a concert
During Trump's days Billie Eilish could move to Korea, and try to become a KPop singer, challenging the Senior Singer and Roseanne Park, MBE, for the title of KPop's Greatest Soloist.
There is one effectively unemployed producer famous in KPop, Min Heejin, who might like the chance to work with Billie
Not you making Trump winning immediately about KPOP
He is likely to implement measures which will be more hostile to KPop and the general ethos will turn against acts not originating in places which do not speak languages spoken by the majority of the people living in USA.
I don't think it would have any effect. The amount of celebrities that endorsed her but she still didn't win.
She lost Hispanic voters
With that photo , and with Seokjin possibly endorsing her, she would have had a better chance
Again it is the Armies whose reluctance to make BTS avoid taking sides causing all these problems now there will probably be actions against acts not speaking a Western language performing in USA
Display MoreBut most "Pop" acts tend to go Left, look at all the endorsements to Kamala Harris (BTS did the same thing when they aligned with BLM. ) Does that not go against your theory that Western Acts gang up against Kpop intrusion, if not then they should have aligned with Xenophobic Trump.
So things are not that simple.
Anyway, there is a lesson to fans, celebs and parties. People might be influenced by a singer/actor to buy accessories or dresses, but it is immature to rely on celebrity endorsements when it comes to politics.
Very few idols are respected for any intellectual capacity nor are they known to have relatable lives to common folk, given the bubbles they live in.
Entertainers are only for entertainment. Very few have the dignitas/autocritas to impact beyond consumable stuff.
I don't think political win/loss matters that much to Kpop in the West. IMO Kpop in West peaked around 2020 and will slowly decline or rather get mainstreamed and lose distinctiveness.
It influences how popular music is perceived
On early 2014, hiphop was the rage in Korean pop, and it seemed it was finally going to be the major theme of KPop
Then the ferry accident occurred
With the entire country in mourning mode, IU's style of music once again became hot and she became strong enough to attack Exo, all the way to the Lifetime Achievement Award
and, more importantly in the longer term, BTS found hiphop was no longer that hip and began to change its genre
The general ethos of USA has changed. It was already changing when Morgan Wallen began to become popular, but a big transformation has taken place and the pop scene in 2025 will be verry different
That is concerning too
The general ethos will be hostile to KPop and KPop concerts will be more shunned than before
i mean im not sure since 2020 trump era, kpop was litterally flercousing
The height was 2021-23
2020, Dynamite was seen as a fluke like Gangnam Style so a major effort against KPop did not take place back then
It was bubbling. BTS had its first major concerts in USA but it did not spread that far back then
Well, Trump has returned to the White House, and he is likely to introduce a lot of 'pro-America' policies.
KPop really thrived during the Biden-Harris days, but Hybe foolishly listened to the Koreans and dragged BTS to the military.
The general ethos of USA has turned into country-like music, and now it is unlikely that BTS would be able to invoke a huge reaction like it did in 2020, 2021 and 2022.
Seokjin is already trying to sing country music, feeling where the wind is blowing from.
How KPop will progress in a regime hostile to KPop is a topic only I seem to have explored before.
I am afraid to say that KPop in USA will decline significantly as country gains more ground, and big sales by KPop acts in USA are not going to be likely.
Display MoreTrue, I even think Kamala m gave some lyrics or lyrical inspiration to Agust D and that resulted in this word salad in People Pt.2,
So time is yet now, right here to go
I know, you know, anything does know
So time is yet now, right here to go
Nobody doesn't know anymore
That's totally Kamala style. Suga should have credited her.
And that they got IU famous for her profound lyrics to sing "whatever" this is, is even nicer a touch.
Armies being so critical of BTS involved in politics really cost it a lot of opportunities