Posts by WhyKnock

It is kind of Illit (and other acts not associated with Source) acknowledging that GFriend was once a Hybe act.

Unfortunately it is rumored that it is a clip of the senior singer.

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

Such as? If you think Trump is specifically going to sign some sort of anti-Kpop bill, you've lost (the remainder of) your marbles. You're just using him for petty scaremongering, while Americans have very real concerns & fears right now. It's like someone in the 1930s proposing that Hitler is going to cancel saturday morning cartoons.

All Trump has to do to weaken KPop is to strengthen visa requirements for KPop singers, making it much, much harder for them to enter USA for concerts.

People with citizenships in Five Eyes, such as Roseanne Park , MBE, Christopher Bang, Felix Lee, Pham Ngoc Han or Danielle Marsh could be allowed somewhat better terms, but none of the BTS members qualify.

Quote from bbgc

I will wait to see what happens when they are back in-sight.

And even without the youngsters, they still have a huge audience.

Given that the trends have changed, not as impressive as some remaining armies might think

the fans will be mostly in their 30s

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

Are you a clairvoyant? Because we aren't living in a totalitarian society where all media is controlled by the government... yet.

There will be measures which will make it much harder for KPop acts to operate and chart higher and also have larger scale concerts

Quote from Prongs

Yeah,but they have to sing in English,and have to make American music. What's the point of kpop then ?

They will sing English but KPop will consider them as a KPop song

But how far they can go now is in a serious doubt

And now SKZ is about to have more views than them

all of BTS' empire imploding in front of our eyes

Quote from bbgc

One of my recent cultural shocks was interacting with bunch of American high schoolers and college kids, and they know SKZ more, are into them and treat BTS as some legacy act.. a bit later to dinosaurs ..

Felt very old

Out of sight, out of mind.

While you were elsewhere I wrote about this topic quite a few times with armies trying to debunk me

And I am proven right again.

Quote from Sugary-Salt

Stray Kids is already surpassed BTS, their audience is younger and they will grow up in the next 2 years, so Stray Kids will surely secure #1 BG spot

IU and Day6 have musical talents so they can impress the public by live performance. Qwer - I had read it was formed from influencers which means this group is pure lookism + cheap twitch/yt/afreecatv style of hype. Soyeon's participation ensured me to avoid them.

Yes, next year SKZ will reach the top.

And Christopher Bang and Felix Lee will NOT serve in the Korean military.

Somewhere I read that the total views of KPop artists for Nov 5, 2023 - Nov 5, 2024 are like that

Global

BP 3.61b

BTS 3.55b

SKZ 2.43b

Baemon 2.12b

NJ 2.02b

aespa 1.84b

Twice 1.65b

Gidle 1.65b

Le Sserafim 1.64b

Seventeen 1.54b

Jennie 1.36b

IVE 1.27b

They are acts which had more than 1 billion views

USA

BTS 244m

SKZ 231m

BP 171m

NJ 131m

LS 97m

TW 91m

Jennie 86m

Enhypen 80m

aespa 76m

gidle 74m

Ateez 72m

SVT 62m

txt 59m

IVE 56m

Japan

TW 402m

BTS 352

SKZ 309

SVT 258

NJ 239

LS 228

IVE 172

aespa 160

BP 128

Gidle 107

XG 102

txt 100

And, now , Korea

NJ 573m

aespa 466

IU 442

Day6 433

IVE 400

Gidle 308

LS 289

SV 255

Qwer 245

BP 212

BTS 200

Source

https://gall.dcinside.com/m/gaon/8068148 (In Korean)

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IVE is clearly in decline

aespa did not recover its lost ground and still have some ways to go

New Jeans still retains Korea after all these

Twice still rules Japan

Stray Kids have now almost caught up with BTS, and if, as rumored, BTS does not make a comeback in 2025 SKZ will overcome BTS.

BP is #1 in the world but not too relevant in Korea anymore

BTS completely abandoned by Korea, making its military service a complete waste of time. I have said for a million times that they should have ditched Korea

And, the Korean taste is quite strange

People like IU, Day6 and Qwer do not get ranked in other country's charts

but the Koreans still consume them

The inconsistency had reached its height in 2022 when IU was the most viewed singer in Korea, above BTS and BP

The Korean preference of people like IU, Day6 and qwer makes it the country which is the most hostile to Kpop.

Probably another 'girl crush' act

Quote from ellenote

Kpop is done for thanks Roseanne park

It showed the limits of KPop for sure

APT. was arguably the strongest song which could plausibly called KPop, but it has dropped out from the top 10 of Billboard Hot 100.

Radio play has taken a big importance, and with Trump's return, the radio DJs are not too likely to play songs originating from Korea.

JK had done the impossible last year with Seven, which is likely to be the last KPop song to top Billboard Hot 100. If Roseanne Park, OBE, who is not a Korean, a native English speaker and combining forces with a singer who used to be famous , could not make it no one who could be considered Korean can do that.

Why Bang did not re-launch a tour in late 2021 - 2022 is only known to himself.

All these BTS solos eventually amounted to, I have to say, nothing , except JK's Seven.

Instead one of Agust D's solo songs was used by a rabid ultraconservative politician to drag all of them to the military.

JYP was smart not to allow Twice any solo songs till a number of years had passed.

It is rumored that BTS won't return till 2026 now, since no one knows how pop will progress in 2025. It will not be 2021 or 2022, for sure.

APT. had the best chance to top Hot 100 yet it peaked at #8.

If Rose can't do that who can?

History will record BTS not abandoning Korea as the most foolish business decision in the entire history of Pop.

Quote from bbgc

I don't know the latest stats.

But I recollect in 2020-21 they were the most famous in the world.

Thread

Has any Musical Act reached a higher position than BTS in the history of world?

youtube.com/watch?v=9AjkUyX0rVw

At that time We are the World was released in 1985, the following major musicians were involved.

• Lionel Richie

• Stevie Wonder

• Paul Simon

• Kenny Rogers

• James Ingram

• Tina Turner

• Billy Joel

• Michael Jackson

• Diana Ross

• Dionne Warwick

• Willie Nelson

• Al Jarreau

• Bruce Springsteen

• Kenny Loggins

• Steve Perry

• Daryl Hall

• Huey Lewis

• Cyndi Lauper

• Kim Carnes

• Bob Dylan

• Ray Charles

21 people.

While some…

WhyKnock

Apr 3rd 2022

In Apr 2022 yes

Only people like Mariah Carey, who is now only relevant around the Holiday season, and IU, who saw BTS coming from nowhere when she was already Korean Pop's biggest star (arguably), had no respect on it.

Quote from dispatchme

Is BTS the most famous artists in the world or not?

In 2021 it was

It beat the runner up, The Weeknd, by a margin of 2:1

Everyone else was so scared that they hid themselves, and IU, a domestic singer, rose to the #9 most awarded singer of the world because everyone else had chosen to hide,

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The Nine People who won the Most Awards in 2021 - 2 of them are from Korea, although 1 of them is not exactly KPop

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG…bkQ?format=jpg&name=small



The following nine people dominated world pop for 2021

BTS (Hybe) 164 Awards
The Weeknd (XO Labels) 82 Awards
Ed Sheeran (Gingerbread Man Records) 76 Awards
Taylor Swift (Republic Records) 63 Awards
Olivia Rodrigo (Interscope / Geffen) 59 Awards
Justin Bieber (ultimately Hybe) 58 Awards
Dua Lipa (Warner) 55 Awards
Megan Thee Stallion (in dispute) 48 Awards, most of them earned thru a collaboration with BTS
IU (Edam) 46 Awards, all of them won in…

WhyKnock

Dec 16th 2021

(The original tweet has been deleted but I have saved a copy of that.)

1 BTS

2 The Weeknd

3 Ed Sheeran

4 Taylor Swift

5 Olivia Rodrigo

6 Justin Bieber, Hybe at that time

7 Dua Ripa

8 Meghan Thee Stallion, there only because she participated in 'Butter'

9

IU, a domestic singer in Korea

Quote from merribelle

A Touring Powerhouse. A fan can buy an album. A fan can purchase digital music but the real test is getting these fans to make the journey, buy an expensive concert ticket and be able to get enough of them to sell out a stadium and sell out a tour

“In March 2022, the most expensive BTS tickets sold on StubHub were standing tickets for the first and third shows of the tour, costing $31,565 each. This price included taxes and fees.”

There aren’t a lot of acts that can do it.

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A touring house who did not tour

A domesticist, IU, enters London before BTS post covid

Quote from fortuna

ON THE BILLBOARD HOT 100 :

Their first TOP 10 hit was in 2018 with FAKE LOVE

Their first TOP 8 hit was in 2019 WITH BOY WITH LUV ft. HALSEY

Their first TOP 4 hit was early 2020 with ON

Their first NO. 1 was late 2020 with DYNAMITE (their first english single)

their second NO. 1 was SAVAGE LOVE (Laxed – Siren Beat) with Jawsh 685 & Jason Derulo

their third NO. 1 was even later in 2020 with LIFE GOES ON (first korean song to hit number 1)

They got so popular they were able to stay #1 for seven weeks with BUTTER and then REPLACE themselves at number 1 with PTD

So tell me, where is the "fraudulence" people like to associate them with?

Because only a natural organic ™ growth allows you to see such solid results

This aint a case of one day stay virality

or #80 to #1 when the check hits and back to #80??

This is a case of growing popularity and a SOLID fanbase

and I cant believe that that's a concept so difficult to understand in big 2024 but that's another topic for another day

What scared the music industry, be it the kpop industry or the US music industry was that they were here to stay and continuously growing in popularity.

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They did

The entire world, with the exception of one person, was shocked

However the Koreans supported the one person who was not impressed by BTS' success..

Sounds like a hip hop song

Quote from Varenka

Japanese companies are trying to out K-pop company as WhyKnock foretold. Creating a larger spectacle with their MVs (formerly PVs) is just the first step.

Yes they are learning

Plus there will be no shortage of people who used to work in KPop as well

None of them

Roseanne Park , Mbe , has made all of them obsolete.