NMIXX are the worst promoted and produced JYP group ever?

    Do you agree with me about JYP doing a bad job with NMIXX? 31

    1. Yes (10) 32%
    2. No (10) 32%
    3. I don't care, I love everything they put out (6) 19%
    4. I'm not a fan (5) 16%

    Don't get me wrong, I LOVE them, they're one of the best vocal group in Kpop, but goddamn, their discography is bang average, and what's worse is that JYP doing an absolute shit job with them! Like it's much worse than what he did with ITZY.


    They're barely promoting NMIXX. In 3 YEARS, they NEVER released a single Ballad song! That's basically a crime when you have a strong vocal group! They have some slower songs (pop-ballad), but those are still upbeat. Not to mention they don't have many vocal heavy songs that actually showcases their skills, and I don't think we can say, their discography is diverse, like Red Velvet's or MAMAMOO's for example.


    To be honest, NMIXX is a massive missed opportunity. They still have time to fix this, but I don't trust JYP anymore!


    Like, imagine you have one of the best girl groups of all-time, and you don't give them the proper resource and producers. No wonder, TWICE is still the only girl group at JYP that brings in real money.


    I said this when NMIXX debuted. They could've been JYP's MAMAMOO, but I don't know what J.Y. Park is using, but he needs medical help!



    Their "Tiny Desk" is still THE BEST of what NMIXX did in 3 years! Maybe I'm alone with this opinion, and hardcore NMIXX fans probably will throw rocks at me, but I don't mind it!


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    So, let's do a PRIVATE poll! Do you agree?


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    I don't care, I love everything they put out.


    I am glad to have a group that pretty consistently puts out music that always ranks near the top of my EOY list. Their discography is diverse, if you're telling me Run for Roses is similar to Love Is Lonely is similar to Sickuh is similar to Papillion I think you might actually be legally deaf. But what's wonderful is that they're able to be diverse while maintaining a consistent sonic identity. They've had a few mis-steps, but you generally know an Nmixx song and they generally avoid doing generic pop songs or, as you requested, ballads.

    In terms of their talent, the songs they get are literally the best possible showcase for it. The vocal arrangements in Dash, for example, are absolutely crazy. The entire point of Nmixx's sound is to highlight their infinite versatility and ability to inhabit any genre or groove. This is way beyond just hitting the notes. Other groups might be able to hit the notes of High Horse, but Nmixx can sell the mood of it. Or the moods of it. It's an incredibly evocative vocal performance from all of them, and it requires them to do a lot more than a traditional ballad would in terms of what they need to convey.


    Does their music mean they won't hit it big? Yes, probably, and it also means they'll have a rock solid fanbase that's not going to abandon them for as long as the continue delivering what only they are delivering.


    I think their promotion is really great btw, and that Tiny Desk concert is an example of that. Another thing is that, for example, their live band has their own vlog. Nmixx's music really epitomises k-pop with all the maximalism and genre fluidity, but is also at a remove from it in the way that it deliberately avoids obvious hooks or easy melodies (I almost never like an Nmixx song first time). Their marketing is the same way: They're half in the idol world, half out. That worked for BTS, in a different direction.

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    I would consider Miss A their worst promoted group solely due the fact that it's the go-to example of imbalanced promotions within a group from a large company, and it seems to have changed how they promote members.


    NMIXX seems to be doing fine from what I see. And I like their music, so I can't complain there either lol

    I think JYP’s main problem is killing the hype of all their groups with bad timing.JYP as a company fail to do what needs to be done when it needs to be done. TWICE used to dominate the charts with every release, but JYP kept making them put out songs almost every month, which killed both the hype and the quality. Wonder Girls were doing extraordinary in Korea, yet the company shifted focus to U.S. promotions. ITZY’s early popularity and streaming numbers also went down. Overall, I feel like JYP’s groups always end up being held back by the company itself in one way or another same for Miss A.

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    Quote from David33

    I said this when NMIXX debuted. They could've been JYP's MAMAMOO, but I don't know what J.Y. Park is using, but he needs medical help!

    That's the worst thing they could have been because MMM has currently sold 1.2m albums and barely have many Concerts in their 11 year history meanwhile NMIXX has sold 5 million albums with multiple concerts around the would in 3 - 4 years.


    The reality is....


    Being a Kpop Idol is a job, the Idols that are lucky are from companies that can pay you consistently which means providing content to sell.


    Of the Big 3 Companies and adding HYBE, JYPE has consistently made content for fans, recently Sullyoon and Jiwoo have streamed on Youtube.


    Basically, JYPE's main role is to get as much money from their Artists so they can at least pay them and NMIXX are financially in a far better place than MMM has ever been.

    The worst promoted group is NiziU ... almost zero performances, activities, promo and media appearances outside Japan ... even in Japan, they are getting very little music, and too much tours and festivals ... the new album (with the same name of the tour) is only gonna be released at the end of the tour, and only 3 out of the 8 new songs from the tour album have been performed in the tour so far (NOT the title track with the same name as the album and the tour) ... (last winter's tour, all the tour album new songs were performed on the first day) ... the name of the current ongoing tour was revealed 2 days before the start of the tour, although 2 tours were announced on the last day of last winter's tour

    No, but they should be doing more to promote them. I think with Nmixx we don't know the full story as international fans. For example, Haewon is very popular in Korea due to her work in varieties there and she might be more known for variety than being an idol in Korea. I guess the valid complaint is why didn't JYP use that momentum to benefit Nmixx?


    If you think about it they're not using traditional kpop marketing to market the group. They seem to be using Nmixx to connect to the latin american audience because they've promoted there, had songs in Spanish, and worked with latin artists. I think it's smart to target market like Latin America because could build a following in a market that doesn't usually receive kpop marketing.


    I think if we're talking about charts. Then it might be hard to breakthrough for them because I think the public has made up their mind about casually listening to the group. There's no way a song as good as "Know About Me" can't crack the top 50 because it's better than most songs that charted well in 2025. I think people know them as one of the best performers and will use them to target other groups that are lacking. However, that doesn't mean people are casually listening to music. I'm unsure how important that is for Nmixx because they move a lot of units and they sell out fan concerts. I think JYP needs to give them a tour because they deserve it and I think they have a good international following.

    I don't think you understood my point.


    MAMAMOO is under a nugu and shit company that NEVER promoted them. Selling 1.2M almost is actually an AMAZING achievement. Bigger than what most BIG4 groups ever achieved. They paid back every penny after 2 years, before they became popular, basically.


    They barely had many concerts? Honey, MAMAMOO is the girl group with the most concerts in 11 years, that's more than 800 concerts btw! Including solo tours. Just in the past 2 years they had 1 group World Tour and EIGHT Solo Tour all-around the world!


    Then again, this wasn't my point. I was talking about MUSIC, not POPULARITY, and compared to TWICE, NMIXX is nothing! I'm not even sure NMIXX is more popular than ITZY was.


    You proved my point with your comment, btw. So, good job!

    Never said all of their songs sounds the same. You named those few that are actually different. To be honest, "Sickuhh" is probably one of the worst NMIXX song ever, and "Papillion" is another bang average song, but that's just a personal opinion.


    These two songs actually proves why I think NMIXX discog isn't diverse enough, because most of their songs are upbeat, even the slower ones. People like you say, that's their unique sound, but I say, JYP just don't have the ball to change concepts and sounds.


    That's why I love MAMAMOO and Red Velvet more, because they never stick to just one sound.


    The reason I included their "Tiny Desk" performance is to show that's the genre and style that actually suits NMIXX more. I have NEVER seen NMIXX enjoy singing like that since. It's clear and obvious they love live band and band music in general more than their own songs. Well, most of it.


    As for promotions: We can argue all day, but as I said, NMIXX is JYP's MAMAMOO even in terms of popularity and promotion. Just compare them to TWICE. It's obvious that JYP's main focus was always them, not other girl groups. People might say, it's understandable because TWICE is their most popular and most successful group, but it's not ITZY's or NMIXX's fault, it's the lack of promotion and quality song production.


    NMIXX has a lot of great songs, but also has a lot of bad song as well, production wise. "Papillion" is one of the prime example of that. It's all over the place, and it doesn't have any identity.

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    Quote from David33

    NMIXX has a lot of great songs, but also has a lot of bad song as well, production wise. "Papillion" is one of the prime example of that. It's all over the place, and it doesn't have any identity.

    That's your opinion. I've seen many others say Papillion is one of the best songs of the year. On RYM, Forward is the highest rated kpop release of the year, by a wide margin, and iirc, is in the top twenty eps of the year of any genre. Break was also very highly rated.

    So idk what to tell you. A lot of people love songs like Papillion. More than your average kpop song. Which is not what it is. Which is the point.

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    That's your opinion. I've seen many others say Papillion is one of the best songs of the year. On RYM, Forward is the highest rated kpop release of the year, by a wide margin, and iirc, is in the top twenty eps of the year of any genre. Break was also very highly rated.

    So idk what to tell you. A lot of people love songs like Papillion. More than your average kpop song. Which is not what it is. Which is the point.

    Let's be blatantly clear here. Kpop and every other Pop fans are ALWAYS say the songs of their faves is a SOTY, AOTY etc.


    Just because a song is the highest rated of the year, that doesn't mean anything, that doesn't make it better.


    In Kpop, there are a LOT of songs like "Papillion" in terms of: "Let's put 10 different beat and style in one song, and it might turn out to be good." but that rarely happens.


    The first song that comes to my mind that is similar to "Papillion" is SNSD's "I got a Boy". One of the worst SNSD song ever. Even the members hate it. Then, there's MAMAMOO's "Destiny", also a song with multiple genres and style of composition. One of the few songs that actually didn't fail to deliver with this style of composition and arrangement. The only other group I could mention is probably f(x) and MAYBE Red Velvet.

    Quote from David33

    Let's be blatantly clear here. Kpop and every other Pop fans are ALWAYS say the songs of their faves is a SOTY, AOTY etc.


    Just because a song is the highest rated of the year, that doesn't mean anything, that doesn't make it better.

    RYM members aren't generally fan-culture people, but you're right: It doesn't mean anything. But by that token, your particular opinion means even less, since you're one person and they're thousands+. Nmixx's music is well liked by the people who actually listen to it. And it is liked precisely because it does the things you don't want it to and it doesn't do the things you want it to. I would roll my eyes every time I got to the end of a k-pop mini and got greeted with Obligatory Low Effort Piano & String Ballad #495. You're right that Nmixx haven't done one of those, thank god.


    It would be phenomenally stupid for Nmixx to abandon the thing that has granted them a solid base of support because David33 on allkpop prefers the dial set to "basic".

    Quote from jeyikal307

    I got to the end of a k-pop mini and got greeted with Obligatory Low Effort Piano & String Ballad #495. You're right that Nmixx haven't done one of those, thank god.


    It would be phenomenally stupid for Nmixx to abandon the thing that has granted them a solid base of support because David33 on allkpop prefers the dial set to "basic".

    Calling ballads "basic" is the dumbest thing, and it shows your lack of knowledge about the genre. Just because most Kpop agencies can't produce well-made ballads, doesn't mean it's "basic".


    Creating a top-tier ballad is MUCH HARDER than do another basic EDM or up-beat Tiktok music, for the same reason you mentioned. People (especially younger audience) think ballads are just slow, sad songs.


    There's a reason why MAMAMOO is the only Kpop group that had the balls to release a full-on ballad EP when every other group came out with the same old Kpop music.


    Jsut listen to "Where Are We Now", "I Miss You", "Paint Me" or Wendy's latest song "Believe". These are top-tier ballads, not "basic" ones. You're right about that, those are boring.


    Also, maybe I don't remember correctly, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think NMIXX has REAL R&B songs either, because the ones they're labeled R&B only have some "elements" of the genre.


    NMIXX did multiple genres on paper, but mixed with their own style, and that's why it feels like most of their songs are too similar. It's a double-edged sword. At least for people like me who doesn't afraid to criticize their own faves. Or more like their company.

    You're right David, they don't have any real rnb songs. They also don't have any of those EDM songs, or "upbeat tiktok songs" that you speak of. They also don't have any straight pop-rock songs, or country pop songs, or whatever. Are you noticing a pattern?


    Yes, you are:

    Quote from David33

    NMIXX did multiple genres on paper, but mixed with their own style

    Yes! This is what it means to be artistically consistent, to have a vision, rather than be blown by the wind or to put on genres like they're cosplay. It's an identity. And that's something a lot of kpop groups don't have. The other two girlgroups in JYPE for example.

    Quote from jeyikal307

    You're right David, they don't have any real rnb songs. They also don't have any of those EDM songs, or "upbeat tiktok songs" that you speak of. They also don't have any straight pop-rock songs, or country pop songs, or whatever. Are you noticing a pattern?


    Yes, you are:

    Yes! This is what it means to be artistically consistent, to have a vision, rather than be blown by the wind or to put on genres like they're cosplay. It's an identity. And that's something a lot of kpop groups don't have. The other two girlgroups in JYPE for example.

    That can be a problem as well, for the reason I just said. That's why they're not as popular as they should be. You're saying, they're "artistically consistent" and that might be true, BUT that means they keep releasing similar songs.


    Releasing songs in many genres is not "cosplaying", it means you're versatile enough to do anything you want, but if you do it like JYP with NMIXX, and only sprinkle some parts of a genre, that's not versatility, IT'S YOUR OWN GENRE, basically.


    Some may say it's a good thing, but I don't think it is. Not in the long run.

    Wouldn't a song like Ocean on their last project be Nmixx version of a ballad? I know it's not your traditional ballad but there's many elements and vocals used on that track has many elements in what people want in a ballad.


    I think for Nmixx they're in a tricky spot where they built enough fans with their sounds and there's most likely a good portion that doesn't care about having a traditional ballad. However, there's of course people within the fanbase that would like to hear it or people that are casual listeners interested because of their skills.


    As a fan, I don't mind if they don't pursue a traditional ballad, but I do like their slower songs like Ocean, Cool your rainbow, XOXO, Love is lonely, etc. However, I think there's a lot of kpop fans that don't care too much for ballads and it's usually the lower played song on a project because they lack replayability. Personally, I enjoy some of them and prefer hearing soloist ballads than groups. I rather have slower songs with more energy.

    Quote from David33

    That can be a problem as well, for the reason I just said. That's why they're not as popular as they should be.

    So I think you're saying, because they're top tier singers, they should be top tier popular. I think? And the reason they're not is because of the music, and yes, if they released different music, they'd be more popular! But for me, and most of their listeners, "different" music = worse music.

    What's the best performing kpop group song of the year? Does it fall into one of those things you described as cheap or low effort? I don't want Nmixx to make songs like that either!


    Like for example, as a Twice fan, Pop is the most popular song to come out from that stable in years, but I think it's crap and I'd hate for them to go into that direction. I'm much happier with them getting less success with songs like I Got You. Maybe most disagree! That's fine, but artists shouldn't be chasing the charts as long as they're successful enough to keep doing what they're doing.


    I think Nmixx's songs display their versatility as singers really well personally.

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