Army using orphaned children to boost votes for Jimin for VMA award.

    When I first opened this thread I thought this was related to stray kids since orphaned children is often used by antis. 🙈🙈🙈🙈 I didn't think there would be actual ophaned children involved.

  • AllKill VIP

    This is definitely odd but y'all are making it sound a lot more nefarious than the reality probably is. They had to do some votes in exchange for pizza, they are not being forced to stitch pairs of Nike's for 10 hours straight.

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    Look at the deranged kpop stans in here and I'm not even talking about the person who actually fed those children. I'm talking about the ones who will take any positive and turn it into something vicious and evil to spread their agenda.


    Did the person enforce “one vote! one meal!" as a rule?

    or did they just decide to do a good deed and asked them to vote as an afterthought


    If it’s the former then the outrage is understandable

    If it is the latter then y’all need more help than the person that’s actually doing something to help their community. lmao

    I don't think it matters. Why are they even asking CHILDREN to vote? Do they even allowed to vote? I don't think so, because I'm pretty sure there's an age limit. BTS have enough fans. Just donate food and that's all. Fans of IU donating rice every year, but never ask for votes or something like that. With this, this person is basically making fun of their faves.


    I don't blame BTS let alone the whole fandom for this, but this person is crazy for sure.


    Doing this for the VMA? Like, come on! Even artists making fun of MTV for decades! Only Kpop stans think it's a big and meaningful Award.

    Ofcourse we have army here justifying this behaviour holy shit this fandom is nuts

    You really tried to find justification for this.

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    Quote from doesitneedsaying

    You really tried to find justification for this.

    Some of y'all need to realise, not everybody will run like a bull to attack everything they see after a red flag pops up.


    I said context is important and it is!

    If y'all want to know morally where I stand:


    Forcing the children to vote = BAD

    Feeding orphaned children = GOOD DEED

    Were they forced to vote for a meal?

    If yes = BAD

    if not and it was their choice = GOOD


    so you can talk about justification for as long as you wish.

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    Quote from David33

    I don't think it matters. Why are they even asking CHILDREN to vote? Do they even allowed to vote? I don't think so, because I'm pretty sure there's an age limit. BTS have enough fans. Just donate food and that's all. Fans of IU donating rice every year, but never ask for votes or something like that. With this, this person is basically making fun of their faves.


    I don't blame BTS let alone the whole fandom for this, but this person is crazy for sure.


    Doing this for the VMA? Like, come on! Even artists making fun of MTV for decades! Only Kpop stans think it's a big and meaningful Award.

    I have some of these questions too

    Like how old are these kids?

    I don't even know the twitter user so I could go try to find more info about it

    There's quite a lot to unpack here

    The biggest argument is morals.

    Was it necessary to ask them to vote or not?


    But you see.

    My issue with threads like these is that no one asks these questions or prefers discussion. It's simply reduced to a fandom issue and a gotcha moment. And to tell you the truth David I've seen this so many times that rn I do not care and will just call it out.

    Like just look at the first couple of comments?

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    Quote from fortuna

    Look at the deranged kpop stans in here and I'm not even talking about the person who actually fed those children. I'm talking about the ones who will take any positive and turn it into something vicious and evil to spread their agenda.

    Yeah it's a very positive thing

    To use orphans children for your own purpose and then disguise it as a way " to have fun with them" or " give them a purpose"


    Yeah because most of these children aren't suffering enough

    They need to also be use by some kind of derange and twisted person that is using them as a way to gain vote for their favs


    And trust me the only deranged kpop fans beside the one who did this

    Is you trying to justify and excuse this type of behaviour and trying to paint it as something "positive "

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    Girl I ain't got nothing more to say to y'all just one question to ask you. Answer it yourself.


    Was it not a good deed to feed these children?

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    Am I really reading a defense for this :pepewhat:


    These are KIDS

    Kids in an extremely vulnerable and deprived situation.


    Of course if someone "kind" brings them a luxury they'd usually not ever get, they'll do anything that person asks either because they felt indebted or because they want more kindness and more food. There's 0 way to do this that isn't manipulation and fucked up

  • AllKill VIP
    Quote from fortuna

    Was it not a good deed to feed these children?

    Oh please you really need to go take a dictionnary and go look for the definition of " good deed


    A good deed is doing an intentional action without expecting something in return


    If it's calculated and you are waiting for something in return of your " good deed" it's not a good deed

    It's call being manipulative


    And please offering food or toys when you visit orphans kids is the bare minimal

    Especially considering the situation these kids are

    Just checked their profile. I had to, i needed to see replies. And surprise, surprise, they went private. And all because of a good deed :clown:

  • AllKill VIP

    Today it's orphans kids

    Tomorrow this fandom is going to use homeless people to vote for their favs ?


    And the worst thing is that they'll still be some people of their fandom trying to justify this and call it a " good deed" 🤮🤮


    First of all when you do a good deed you don't expect anything in return

    And if it's a genuine good deed you don't come on social media to boast about what you did


    Especially when what you did is nothing impressive and it's just being a normal human being


    I'm really disgusted to see some kpop fans trying to justify the worst things from their fandoms

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    Well too late, you caused harm too him. I already found a tweet saying jimin did this.


    If what one of the tweets here said that op's family is the orphanage is true, there's no way the staff would say no to her.

  • AllKill VIP

    Can't seem to quote

    @Sooyung


    We are losing the plot

    I do not want to go on a tangent.


    By definition perhaps it is wrong to label it a good deed but my entire point before this argument is that context is important. And I will not rage before finding out whether this person DID in fact do this with good intentions or it is as you posters think. And it was to manipulate the children.


    Because these children were visited and they got their meal and in my opinion that is a good thing.

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    Quote from doesitneedsaying

    If what one of the tweets here said that op's family is the orphanage is true, there's no way the staff would say no to her

    It's not even about OP's family being the orphanage that's the most wrong


    And these tweet are just digging a hole deeper for them


    Yeah cousin, sister etc...can vote and can be ask to vote

    Nobody is criticizing the fact that he ask some people to vote


    But this person ask Orphan kids to vote


    How can you compare the situation of orphans kids to the situation of a sister or a brother or a cousin


    First of all these orphans kids are in a situation of constraint they will not say no when OP is the son/daughter of the owner of the orphanage

    And we all know that most of the times orphanage have some real struggle in management and more cuz they don't have a lot of money and it's hard to manage many kids at once

    So there's often a lot of abuse in this place


    (I'm not saying there's abuse in this orphanage)


    But it's just to show that we don't know the situation and the mental place where these kids are to accept on their own will


    Especially if they got promise something in return like pizza

    We are talking about kids that have to deprive themselves from the "normal" pleasure that a kids usually have

    Cuz they don't have parents and owner of orphanage can't buy them everything they need, and are deprived of love


    Of course if you offer them a pizza in exchange, it'll be something that they'll not refuse

    Cuz it's a simple joy for us, but it's not common for them


    Your cousin, your sister, your brother isn't in this situation of constraint towards you, their situation doesn't depend on you or your family

    So of course they would be free to do it or not without thinking that they might face repercussion or feel like they are being deprive of something by doing this



    WHY IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR THESE STUPID EMPTY BRAINLESS ARMY ???😡😡😡😡

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