Since when being a Multi-stan became a plague?

Because there's a difference to groups you listen to on occasion and "stan".

I've seen "multistans" go "oh I stan 20 different groups" and the question being begged is - are you actually buying albums for 20 groups? Watching all 20 groups content or checking out lives. Going to all 20 groups concerts if available?

Or do you just casually listen to their song now and again on Spotify or Youtube?

I've seen very, VERY few actual "multistans" and more just generally people who like kpop generally, who call themselves "multistans" even though they basically stan 1-2 groups and just casually listen to the rest.

So it's more about people just being dishonest or exaggerating then any particular problem with someone who physically stans 5+ groups.

At least that's my view. Quite frankly I don't think your a stan unless you buy physical albums and consume at least a healthy portion of their non-music content (variety, solo appearances, live streams etc).

Anyone else is just a listener or a casual fan.

Disevidence said it all already.

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Because there's a difference to groups you listen to on occasion and "stan".

I've seen "multistans" go "oh I stan 20 different groups" and the question being begged is - are you actually buying albums for 20 groups? Watching all 20 groups content or checking out lives. Going to all 20 groups concerts if available?

Well, I don't stan 20 groups. Only 6 or 7.

But I do own multiple albums and merch for each of those groups, including harder to obtain items for most of them (eg fan club membership only album editions or merch things).

And once March 16 rolls around, I'll have been to concerts for 6 different groups (some groups multiple times). Which for me includes interstate flights and hotel stays. And in all but 1 of those concerts I've forked out for the premium/special VIP type tickets so I can get as close to stage as possible as well as things like meet and greets.

I don't have time these days in a normal work week to fit in too much group content as much as I'd like though.

But I guess it does make me more or less a multi-stan by your criteria, and also having more $$$ than sense.

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Because there's a difference to groups you listen to on occasion and "stan".

I've seen "multistans" go "oh I stan 20 different groups" and the question being begged is - are you actually buying albums for 20 groups? Watching all 20 groups content or checking out lives. Going to all 20 groups concerts if available?

Or do you just casually listen to their song now and again on Spotify or Youtube?

I've seen very, VERY few actual "multistans" and more just generally people who like kpop generally, who call themselves "multistans" even though they basically stan 1-2 groups and just casually listen to the rest.

So it's more about people just being dishonest or exaggerating then any particular problem with someone who physically stans 5+ groups.

At least that's my view. Quite frankly I don't think your a stan unless you buy physical albums and consume at least a healthy portion of their non-music content (variety, solo appearances, live streams etc).

Anyone else is just a listener or a casual fan.

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I have never liked the word "stan" and never use it myself. But I think most people mean "fan of multiple groups" when they use the term "multi"/"mulitstan".

This feels like an attack on Tru-Multistan

First guy summed it up pretty well. Personally, Im very particular about the groups I say I stan, because I dont want to seem dishonest when talking about other groups I borderline stan. I dont say I stan a group unless I listen to at least like 70% of their disco, buy their albums, and watch a decent amount of variety content. In that sense I only stan Bp, Twice, IVE, and BM. Otherwise I just say I casually follow the group. I know stanning can have a different meaning for everyone but I think having a clear line is important.

Kpop seems to become a more competitive arena with each passing year. Not amongst the artists, but their fans. Kpop artists are treated like competitors in the Thunderdome and you're simply not allowed to root for more than one. Overzealous success stans like Yama-Chan have contributed to this increasingly toxic atmosphere, so we know it isn't just the youngins either.

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Quite frankly I don't think your a stan unless you buy physical albums and consume at least a healthy portion of their non-music content (variety, solo appearances, live streams etc).

Anyone else is just a listener or a casual fan.

Hooray! I've never purchased a physical Kpop album in my life, so I don't qualify as a stan, thank goodness. I'm old enough to know where that term came from and that it is NOT something you want to be known as.

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Kpop seems to become a more competitive arena with each passing year. Not amongst the artists, but their fans. Kpop artists are treated like competitors in the Thunderdome and you're simply not allowed to root for more than one. Overzealous success stans like Yama-Chan have contributed to this increasingly toxic atmosphere, so we know it isn't just the youngins either.

Hooray! I've never purchased a physical Kpop album in my life, so I don't qualify as a stan, thank goodness. I'm old enough to know where that term came from and that it is NOT something you want to be known as.

What an astoundingly delusional and tone deaf observation. If you think K-Pop fandom being transformed into a battleground for fans to weaponize the achievement of their favorite idols in combat against one another is a NEW phenomenon, then you have not been a fan for very long or have only been a casual.

Don't let the misinformed revisionist historians like Popper-of-Ks lie about the K-Pop fan culture. I was here for the arrival, ascension and decline of the third generation; it was JUST as competitive and heated back then.

If you really know your K-Pop, like I do, then you'd know that way back in the day, I'm talking first generation, fans used to actually meet up like rival gangs and actually throw hands like they were in a turf war.

And the second generation wars between Blackjacks and Sones were the stuff of legends.

Don't presume to lecture people about the culture and its dynamics when you understand so little about it, child. And especially don't summon ME to do it. You're just asking to get schooled.

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Correct, Yama believes because I Stan BTS I’m a “hybe supporter” and therefore am lying when I say I feel bad for the girls in NJ. I support artists not companies. They have made this site very toxic lately, it’s quite sad.

You lick the boots of that toxic company run by incels masquerading as creatives who are commoditizing the industry and bastardizing art for the sake of profits, even if it requires soulless dehumanization to do so. You do not feel bad for NewJeans, and you are actually full of shit if you pretend otherwise. I already know you cried to the moderation staff in the last thread I called you out in, but this time you invited trouble to your doorstep by failing to keep my name out your mouth, a big mistake

I'll give you one chance to apologize and keep it moving, and I'll leave it alone. But if you think you can even for a moment post all the hateful bullshit you have on the main site and then pretend to be some innocent bystander here, I will spill all the tea.

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What an astoundingly delusional and tone deaf observation. If you think K-Pop fandom being transformed into a battleground for fans to weaponize the achievement of their favorite idols in combat against one another is a NEW phenomenon, then you have not been a fan for very long or have only been a casual.

Don't let the misinformed revisionist historians like Popper-of-Ks lie about the K-Pop fan culture. I was here for the arrival, ascension and decline of the third generation; it was JUST as competitive and heated back then.

If you really know your K-Pop, like I do, then you'd know that way back in the day, I'm talking first generation, fans used to actually meet up like rival gangs and actually throw hands like they were in a turf war.

And the second generation wars between Blackjacks and Sones were the stuff of legends.

Don't presume to lecture people about the culture and its dynamics when you understand so little about it, child. And especially don't summon ME to do it. You're just asking to get schooled.

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Did you notice how he spent this entire, long-winded response trying to "school" me on Kpop fan culture, while not a single word was allocated to denying the toxic success stan allegations that summoned him here? Very curious, no? Very curious indeed.

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Did you notice how he spent this entire, long-winded response trying to "school" me on Kpop fan culture, while not a single word was allocated to denying the toxic success stan allegations that summoned him here? Very curious, no? Very curious indeed.

Cause you're not a multi-stan, at best you're an Nj-Mamamoo-2en1 stan and just a casual listener for the rest.

Calling yourself fan of more than one group has been side-eyed or even cussed out for a long time in korea and korean communities (and japanese and chinese). International comunities are just catching up to it as more content become available thanks to software translation and a greater focus by companies on what was once outside their core markets.