Something is wrong when Through the Night (2017) and Hype Boy (2022) are part of the top 10 songs according to Gallup

I stopped reading from the first sentence.

Actually I found it quite interesting. TTN is not even charting anymore, but when people are asked about what song is the biggest it is still being mentioned so much. Other massive songs like Paul Kim's EDEM or Akmu's How can I love the heartbreak are still charting and the latter even peaked really high this year thanks to a performance that made it rise, but they're not in Gallup.

I've the feeling if they were asked about what is the song of the century in Korea TTN would be the choice, the fact that it's probably considered IU's (singer of the century after all) biggest hit probably make them think about TTN as the most logic choice, apart from the song's own success ofc. It's not the best charting song (EDEM is) but sometimes some songs become more iconic than what the charts themselves show.

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Actually I found it quite interesting. TTN is not even charting anymore, but when people are asked about what song is the biggest it is still being mentioned so much. Other massive songs like Paul Kim's EDEM or Akmu's How can I love the heartbreak are still charting and the latter even peaked really high this year thanks to a performance that made it rise, but they're not in Gallup.

I've the feeling if they were asked about what is the song of the century in Korea TTN would be the choice, the fact that it's probably considered IU's (singer of the century after all) biggest hit probably make them think about TTN as the most logic choice, apart from the song's own success ofc. It's not the best charting song (EDEM is) but sometimes some songs become more iconic than what the charts themselves show.

Correct analysis.

After a point, chart fluctuations don't matter. The legendary status is solidified.

TTN is the representative song of the representative National Singer of S Korea, no matter if it charting high in a particular period or not

Spring Day is probably such a song for BTS, than Dynamite.

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lol... the irony.

Also, WhyKnock, you already did this thread just with more racism...

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lol... the irony.

Also, WhyKnock, you already did this thread just with more racism...

Mate, we're not even in the same league. I'm talking about real things, Knocky is a fanfic writer.😂

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U can't handle facts

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I can but I don't see how that was relevant enough to include in the rant.

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Spring day is finally out of Melon top 100 as of this day

But Armies do not select that song as BTS' top song

TTN seems to be stuck as the greatest song of the Former Owner of Edam Entertainment.

K-Armies would have, but they seem to been rendered irrelevant, a rare minus of international fame.

Strangely the web results asking for IU's greatest song, still largely gives "You & I" - not Good Day, not Eight, not Celebrity or Love Wins All and definitely not TTN.

So it all depends on the sample asked. In Korea it is TTN.

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TTN is basically the only ballad song during the KPop era which took the throne and also is remembered for the longest time so in an age of fast moving parts TTN is remembered for a longer period of time than more popular songs of the day who are history within 12 months

Oh come on, there have been many hit ballads during the period - Paul Kim's EDEM, BOL4 had many.

Even from Kpop groups - BTS' Spring Day, Bigbang's "If You" ..

And they all were hits.

But yes, ballads in general have far better longevity than bops. Bops may go viral, but very few have longevity to match iconic ballads, even from the same artist.

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Yet after all these years only TTN has survived . I once said that TTN will probably be the only KPop song from 2010s which will still be sung in 2030s.

Out of all the songs in 2000s, only SNSD's Into the New World has survived because it has become a demonstration songs. 2020s is still going on but Hype Boy might last longer than Dynamite or even APT.

Well TTN is more universally relatable in its theme.

Not everybody is going to fall in love, have heartbreak, need consolation etc ,

But everybody can relate to falling asleep, it can be sung to anyone from babies to lovers.

That's the key. IU is also smart with such themes, age-related, every girl turning 23, 25 is going to use her songs .

That's like Christmas songs etc.

WhyKnock

Did you read the Lefsetz Article on WSJ, he argues that the music industry is fragmented that it is incorrect to assert that Taylor Swift is the most popular/dominating artist of the year in West etc., because she does not reach a variety of population. Most people "know of her" than "know her music". She is definitely super successful in business, but not as ubiquitously listened to, as previous greats.

I would think it is the same with Kpop, particularly so since the 2nd gen, even among Koreans. The same can be said of BTS, Blackpink etc., that more people "Know of them" than "Know their songs". but within their specific demographic of teens/twenties, they are extremely popular. And vice versa for Trot or rather with Trot the young might not even "Know of them"

That is also why IU indeed might be the "Last National Singer" in S.Korea. The listenership has fragmented since the mid-2010s. And TTN is her song that cuts the most across demographics, even if something like You & I, Celebrity etc., have more sheer numbers.