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    What makes so many male CEOs want to make their own girl groups, who are typically on the younger side? I understand big companies doing it, as it's almost guaranteed success. But the majority of girl groups are almost never successful and usually end in a failed business. It's a very risky investment. When getting into the idol business it's usually better to start with a boy group. Maybe to you it's perfectly normal, but I can't fathom the psychology of men put so much of their money into a girl group with a 9 out of 10 chance they will lose their money, or at best break even. I can't but speculate that some of these men have ulterior motives, which have been proven in certain past and recent instances.

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    depends which route the CEO wants to take. Boy groups need to target fangirls . Most are already loyal to their bias group, so it's not exactly an easy task. Though times have changed now as kpop has grown in popularity overseas where multistans exist. Girl groups target the general public (and are almost always more accepted than boy groups). General public popularity nets to fame and endorsements.


    Whichever route they take, both have a very high chance of failure.

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    With the OmegaX situation we've seen even grown men aren't safe from their companies so putting any young kids whether girls or boys in the hands of these companies is crazy to me.


    Frankly speaking girls are way easier to sell to the audiences then men. Look at the amount of views on fancams of the female idols. Nobody is stupid enough to believe those high views are for the dancing talent or vocal abilities. The companies of small level idols are probably getting some revenue from those views at least.

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    Quote from KarimaJ

    With the OmegaX situation we've seen even grown men aren't safe from their companies so putting any young kids whether girls or boys in the hands of these companies is crazy to me.


    Frankly speaking girls are way easier to sell to the audiences then men. Look at the amount of views on fancams of the female idols. Nobody is stupid enough to believe those high views are for the dancing talent or vocal abilities. The companies of small level idols are probably getting some revenue from those views at least.

    Views and streams make very little money. Most profits come from albums, merch and concerts. Boy groups have more dedicated fanbases, so they make more sense for smaller companies or new agencies. Girl groups do well when they are from big companies. Profitable girl groups from smaller companies are extremely rare.

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    It probably just mirrors their preferences. For a hetro man it's not that fun to watch a group of boys/men in makeup dancing around in a MV. I mean, I prefer looking at BP compared to BTS. It's not that hard. And if you would create your own group as a CEO, well... . And also, I would guess it's a bit easier to control a group of girls compared to a group a young men.

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    Views and streams make very little money. Most profits come from albums, merch and concerts. Boy groups have more dedicated fanbases, so they make more sense for smaller companies or new agencies. Girl groups do well when they are from big companies. Profitable girl groups from smaller companies are extremely rare.

    Pledis used to have big chances before they got bought by Hybe, since Afterschool, Orange Caramel and Pristin did quit well, but as you see, the ex. members of After School had been unhappy after a forced hiatus for years with no end in sight and when the last girl left Pledis, she expressed how it was even impossible to talk with the management about her situation. Randomly, only after After School had disbanded Nana somehow became very famous, to a level that some people even claimed her as most beautiful woman in Korea

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    You need to chill with your fantasies.

    This ain't some random topic but related to current events and pertinent to a group I personally follow and had concerns in the past about their management.


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    It's sad what's happening to Yeseo
    She used to perform at huge concerts with Kep1er but now she's back to her nugu company and this is the kind of thing she's going through. Mashiro is her bff, who would prefer to promote with Maiden because there's more Japanese members and she can get a higher billing compared to Kep1er so Yeseo had to follow Mashiro into Maiden. But now Yeseo, who is of age, has to provide some sort of fanservice ala Fanatics, the underage members could, but Yeseo can't cover herself from the cold ass wind,…
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    I've seen a similar thing happen with another group I liked, Fanatics. I was hoping it wouldn't be like this but it has similar characteristics people who are familiar with the Fanatics case would have noticed. This being the second time makes me wonder who are the kinds of people behind these groups.

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