REASON WHY VOCALS MATTER IN KPOP
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That's your opinion that I don't care
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that's a pretty valid and sound argument,i especially agree with the first part. although short and precise, holds far more weigh than any essays my fellow oldpinkhouse has written. the last part was a shocker though. where is the good in the bye? unlike you to be haste after writing such conviction.
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Should singers sing?
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Should singers sing?
if my grandma had wheels she woulda been a bike
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that's a pretty valid and sound argument,i especially agree with the first part. although short and precise, holds far more weigh than any essays my fellow oldpinkhouse has written. the last part was a shocker though. where is the good in the bye? unlike you to be haste after writing such conviction.
Yeah, the first part was a solid reason! The goodbye was bc i knew oldpinkhouse would argue if given examples and I don't want essays about excusing bad vocals in this thread.
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Should singers sing?
In some people's mind is like saying doctors shouldn't doc
but in the real world yes, singers should sing 
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Should singers sing?
Sure.
The problem here is that we're not talking about singers.
We're talking about idols. There is a huge difference. No one goes to an Adele concert to watch her dance to Hybe Boy. Just like no one goes to a Kpop concert to watch them belt out Someone Like You.
Remember how Koreans were talking about the Six Axes of Kpop idols? Vocals are only ONE of those axes and arguably the least important along with rapping. Visuals, dance, personality, and stage presence are 10000 more important.
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We're talking about idols. There is a HUGE difference
Is singing part of their job?
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singers should sing
More research is needed
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Is singing part of their job?
Yes but only in a studio. No one expects them to sing raw live vocals, that's just not a thing. If we cared about idol vocals, we wouldnt have them waste time dancing, they would just be standing in a row and belting. No true vocalist runs around and does choreo while singing, you literally have zero support and end up shouting.
It only recently became a thing since rival fandoms wanted to pile on the hate train for LSRFM after they ended Baddie and Drama with Perfect Night and after they were beyond jealous that LSRFM got to dominate at Coachella. Let's just be honest here.
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Yes but only in a studio. No one expects them to sing raw live vocals, that's just not a thing. If we cared about idol vocals, we wouldnt have them waste time dancing, they would just be standing in a row and belting. No true vocalist runs around and does choreo while singing, you literally have zero support and end up shouting.
It only recently became a thing since rival fandoms wanted to pile on the hate train for LSRFM after they ended Baddie and Drama with Perfect Night and after they were beyond jealous that LSRFM got to dominate at Coachella. Let's just be honest here.
I know a couple of groups who have no problem modifying their dance so that its still a full vocal and dance performance
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Yes but only in a studio.
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Reality: some "singers" can't even sing well in the studio that's when auto tunes appears...
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vocals matter to a certain extent...
idols are that - idols
they aren't singers and singers only - they sing, dance, perform, rap, act, mc, model, etc etc
and therefore one shouldn't expect them to be able to perform well in all areas
obviously if a person was into kpop because of the vocals then can stan idols with great voices but there are others who stan idols because of their own reasons
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Not Morisette
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if my grandma had wheels she woulda been a bike
I gotchu
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Remember how Koreans were talking about the Six Axes of Kpop idols? Vocals are only ONE of those axes and arguably the least important along with rapping. Visuals, dance, personality, and stage presence are 10000 more important.
If you were born yesterday, I accept your point. I follow Kpop since 1st gen. Visuals were always important, but being at least an average vocalist, was the standard. Nowadays, it's enough if you're cute or sexy.
You ignore vocals, because your faves can't do the bare minimum. Everyone knows it.😅
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That's also your opinion that I don't care
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Should singers sing?
I think they should dance in sync instead, idk
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You said it well
As a kpop fan since 2014 I think I have experience to say everything that I said in my op
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Yeah, even my faves aren't Adele's level, but they can for sure give an amazing performance while singing and many others kpop groups can!
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Tbh I know GD sounded arrogant when saying so, but he always made sure to say BB were artists bc of this stigma that followed idols and it's "funny" how in this day a company like Hybe makes sure to keep the stigma pretty much alive when others fight against it or at least make sure to sing their songs proudly...
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If dancing and looking nice would be the only requirements for idols, then what even is the point?
People would be happier stanning a dance crew and a few influencers, in that situation.
The reason why Kpop is so popular and has such big fanbases is because idols are an entire package - dance, image, singing/ rapping and personalities. And since one human can’t do everything or has difficulties doing everything well, having multiple members to fulfill different roles helps create a balanced package at the end.
No one expects Whitney Houston, but to be at least decent in the art of singing, as a main vocalist, is the bare minimum. That’s literally their job’s description.
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If dancing and looking nice would be the only requirements for idols, then what even is the point?
People would be happier stanning a dance crew and a few influencers, in that situation.
The reason why Kpop is so popular and has such big fanbases is because idols are an entire package - dance, image, singing/ rapping and personalities. And since one human can’t do everything or has difficulties doing everything well, having multiple members to fulfill different roles helps create a balanced package at the end.
No one expects Whitney Houston, but to be at least decent in the art of singing, as a main vocalist, is the bare minimum. That’s literally their job’s description.
Period!!
Kpop going viral bc of the music and live performances proving vocals matter!!
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As a kpop fan since 2014 I think I have experience to say everything that I said in my op
Valuable knowledge
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That's also your opinion that I don't care
That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Only Rose can sing on a decent level in BP. All of them had a great potential, and it's not their fault that they didn't get any vocal training, but now if they won't do it, it's theirs.
I'm not saying Jisoo is crap, but she can't hold a single note without losing breath. Her best performance is that Japanese song.
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That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Only Rose can sing on a decent level in BP. All of them had a great potential, and it's not their fault that they didn't get any vocal training, but now if they won't do it, it's theirs.
I'm not saying Jisoo is crap, but she can't hold a single note without losing breath. Her best performance is that Japanese song.
Coachella Jisoo proving you are wrong and I laugh at how you act like you are neutral about BP when you clearly dislike them. Move on, David.
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Are you drunk on delulu? Most of their performance at Coachella was a hot mess and lip sync.
If I dislike them, how can I love Rose? And I like Jisoo, but not as a musician, because she's not one.
You're talking about vocals, but you can't (more like, don't want to) see that your faves are not good vocalists. Not much better than ILLIT or LSF. Rose is literally carrying the group. You don't have to believe me, you can watch many vocal coaches analyzing them. But you don't have to be a vocalist or vocal coach to hear, they're not good singers.
IU is probably my biggest fave as a soloist, but she's not better than average. It's not about whom I love or not, it's about talent. IU has the experience and the technique to make her performance much better. IU aren't one of the best performer because she's a great vocalist, she's singing the way she acts. You can feel what she wants to sing. Rose can do that, but she lacks experience. The other members can't do half of that, and based on what I heard from so far, I can tell, they don't want to do that anyway. They're doing the easy route, unlike Rose.
Watch this! For the record, this guy is a BLINK!
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