So...not to be that person but MHJ is clearly the one with the better arguments

Are these arguments in the room with us?

True

She is manipulative, and a huge liability for any company atp.

I don't trust her, and the shown personality of cursing at people isn't professional behaviour at all.

Anyway, she probably banned from entering Hybe.

I just want more chaos.

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From what I saw, her lawyer was suffering from "someone please shut her tf up"

She said way too much, even confirming things that HYBE said about her. The shaman thing which could have been seen as a desperate slander attempt if she had just stayed quiet but miss was like "WHY CANT I HAVE A SHAMAN FRIEND?!"

For I-fans it might be weird but most Koreans are polytheistic so it’s not uncommon to have a shaman there

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the fact that MHJ is a total lunatic and probably a bad person does not negate the fact that HYBE IS clearly an unethical and unscrupulous company... in this war she was the one with the big guns, at least she brought receipts

What receipts lol all we have seen is MHJ made a complete joke of herself crying about LSF and other artists, a shady Bang PD in the mix.

Bang PD can decide business wise which girl group to debut first because he is the head of the company, MHJ been putting down LSF, showing how much she hates them today. The guy even x the new boy group called TA lol. All the others are bs, it won't hold in court.

If Hybe has evidence of potential insider trading, MHJ and co. are done.

They requested her to summit the company laptop again, so hopefully she did.

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After watching that interview all I have to say is what a bad week to be a HYBE stan

Seems like you're gloating.

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From what I saw, her lawyer was suffering from "someone please shut her tf up"

She said way too much, even confirming things that HYBE said about her. The shaman thing which could have been seen as a desperate slander attempt if she had just stayed quiet but miss was like "WHY CANT I HAVE A SHAMAN FRIEND?!"

No way she confirmed that

What arguments?

Hybe will just settle this legally while she gets mad.

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From what I saw, her lawyer was suffering from "someone please shut her tf up"

She said way too much, even confirming things that HYBE said about her. The shaman thing which could have been seen as a desperate slander attempt if she had just stayed quiet but miss was like "WHY CANT I HAVE A SHAMAN FRIEND?!"

I mean... even Korean president engages with shamans. Korea has over 400k shamans, it is thriving industry. When you look from tbis perspective it is not THAT strange actually.

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super entertained

Awesome. Keep entertained.

I was too.

My impression of Bang pd after this mess:

- He is no angel

- very manipulative

- Lies to get what he wants.

Anyhow, I feel for MHJ, she felt betrayed by him bec she thought she'd be the only sublabel to produce a gg for Hybe then here comes Lssfm.

But the way she went about protesting was wrong. She's also very unprofessional and a little unstable.

I hope she seeks professional help for her mental heath's sake and get better.

If I were her, rather than fight a huge company and lose, I'd make concessions with Hybe, quit, get what's rightfully hers from the company, relax and enjoy my millions for life. This stress is not doing her good.

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the fact that MHJ is a total lunatic and probably a bad person does not negate the fact that HYBE IS clearly an unethical and unscrupulous company... in this war she was the one with the big guns, at least she brought receipts

Like which ones ?

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What receipts lol all we have seen is MHJ made a complete joke of herself crying about LSF and other artists, a shady Bang PD in the mix.

Did she cry about other groups or did she just explaine everything that went down? Or was it mix of both

I think both Hybe and MHJ threw their idols under the bus. They didn't handle their internal issues well.

I’m on MHJ side because it seems to be more entertaining that way

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I hope she seeks professional help for her mental heath's sake and get better.

Me too tbh, I see no reason why teenagers have to be there for her? Perhaps trying to find friends outside of work could be helpful for her in long run? And of course some professional help, because why not when she needs it and can afford it.

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I'm not denying that she's probably guilty of something and that she's a narcissistic lunatic, but she brought us screenshots that show HYBE's unethical behavior... I was hoping that HYBE would make a good statement, present proof of the serious accusations they made, but they haven't brought any evidence yet....not a single one... why? Could it be because there are more bad things that can be used against them? Anyway, I'm not a stan of any company, so I'm having fun watching this freak show... I feel sorry for the NJ girls, this must be embarrassing and sad for them

Just a thought.

Hybe kept silent and did not disclose evidence on some things

because they will use those evidence in court.

I think they also mentioned it through a presser.

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Me too tbh, I see no reason why teenagers have to be there for her? Perhaps trying to find friends outside of work could be helpful for her in long run? And of course some professional help, because why not when she needs it and can afford it.

My impression of her is she's quite lonely and childlike?

She's not necessarily a bad person but has a unique personality. This is why she's so creative.

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super entertained

Yeah, but that was not the comment I was referring to. I referred to the one you mad about fans.

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My impression of her is she's quite lonely and childlike?

She's not necessarily a bad person but has a unique personality. This is why she's so creative.

I read somewhere, I am not sure if it is 100% true, but she once said she has no friends? That she rarely goes out, basically married to her job. Makes sense why she is so emotionally involved in all of this and it is not healthy, especially for NWJS girls. They are teenagers and I also have to say that so far they seem to have severe case of stage parents, but of course I might be wrong about that too.

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Yeah, but that was not the comment I was referring to. I referred to the one you mad about fans.

She stans bp, they will be in scandal tomorrow don't worry

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I know people here are worried about their favs being bring into this mess and I agree that she was shady as f but, Isn't making jokes about shamans considered religious intolerance? Why kpop fans are so comfortable with it here in AKP?

As a hard core atheist, I dont think religious psychosis, superstition and ritual woo nonsense have any place in business, education, politics or any other form of governance.

She never won anything

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I'm not denying that she's probably guilty of something and that she's a narcissistic lunatic, but she brought us screenshots that show HYBE's unethical behavior... I was hoping that HYBE would make a good statement, present proof of the serious accusations they made, but they haven't brought any evidence yet....not a single one... why? Could it be because there are more bad things that can be used against them? Anyway, I'm not a stan of any company, so I'm having fun watching this freak show... I feel sorry for the NJ girls, this must be embarrassing and sad for them

HYBE’s key evidence that they haven’t leaked are being saved for the court battle as it is tied to confidential contracts and company data. But when you sit down and look at all the things from HYBE that has leaked, from the memo, the shaman, and overall - MHJ totally confirmed about them all herself. I am not embarrassed because as ARMY I don’t stan HYBE or Bang PD, I stan BTS. I do listen to many GG including NJ and hope they get their own lawyers and wish them the best.

At the end of the day, MHJ is an employee and can be fired.

As in "I'm emotional, so its ok if I steal anything you own"?

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For I-fans it might be weird but most Koreans are polytheistic so it’s not uncommon to have a shaman there

wait there's shamans involved now????

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wait there's shamans involved now????

She basically went to a Shaman for emotional support, and by her own admission, asked the Shaman to do superstitious mumbo jumbo to, among other things, make the BTS members enlist to clear the board for newjeans.

People who are working/employees seems to relate and understand her current circumstances. A coworker stealing your idea/credit and a toxic boss to be under in. Most of the people who thinks that the press conference made it worse for her seems to be students and younger demographics.

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As a hard core atheist, I dont think religious psychosis, superstition and ritual woo nonsense have any place in business, education, politics or any other form of governance.

I agree

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As in "I'm emotional, so its ok if I steal anything you own"?

Definitely not okay