Are you okay with letting your idol face backlash when they make a mistake ?

depends on the situation and my mood at the time

Yes, it's called being accountable

Yes, within reason.

I think they have to be actual mistakes and errors of judgement though, not just "shit I dont personally like". Your examples, Crazy Horse and The Idol are the latter. You didn't like them, and thats a YOU problem. Same with pretty much most "dating scandals". They aren't mistakes or errors of judgement (usually). Just more shit someone else doesn't like. An idols choice of chain store coffee or soft drink also falls here.

But... and thankfully in kpop, especially girl group circles, actual mistakes and error in judgement are rare. Things that are genuinely offensive (even if done in ignorance), dangerous, of poor judgement or a sign of shitty personality. Stuff like what Irene got caught doing, she needed to take her lumps on that. Any drink driving scandals... and sorry to say to Onces, but Chaeyoung did deserve a bit of backlash for the shirt thing, although I think it got a bit out of hand.

Depends on what the mistake is. Is it a bad song, a bad career move or did they actually do something bad that harms others?

In the first case, sure it's okay if people give their opinion as long as it isn't full on hate. In the second case, depending on the gravity, they deserve more or less hate.

As for Jennie, I don't think Jennie knew exactly how bad that show would be.

I can understand that if you hear that one of the biggest names in music is making a show and they want you to be part of it, and it's HBO too, it will be something good.

The Weeknd's acting was...a choice though

usually no, because the vast majority of the time the "mistake" is so small and nobody would care if they were a western pop star, so why should I care if they did it as a kpop star? Ofc if it's a Seungri situation or something along those lines then I wouldn't defend them, but those incidences are so rare.

generally yes since I don't care enough to defend (nor attack) my favs or others...

but context matters and your original statement two words matter

backlash and mistake

1. what is a mistake? did they sing off key during an encore? did they start dating? did they smoke? do drugs? bully someone? say the n word? something worse...all those are varying degrees of mistake (or not) and also depending on where one is it might be acceptable or not...

2. what is the backlash - how does one sort through all the criticism to find the constructive ones vs the mean ones. Are the mean ones really mean or are they legit criticisms? how does one determine whether something is criticism vs something that is mean etc etc

Can always rely on spineless old barnaby to facepalm and be too weak and scared to actually give an opinion.

A bit lowlife, but thats expected from someone like that.

they don't deserve it I feel bad for them tbh

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Yes, within reason.

I think they have to be actual mistakes and errors of judgement though, not just "shit I dont personally like". Your examples, Crazy Horse and The Idol are the latter. You didn't like them, and thats a YOU problem. Same with pretty much most "dating scandals". They aren't mistakes or errors of judgement (usually). Just more shit someone else doesn't like. An idols choice of chain store coffee or soft drink also falls here.

But... and thankfully in kpop, especially girl group circles, actual mistakes and error in judgement are rare. Things that are genuinely offensive (even if done in ignorance), dangerous, of poor judgement or a sign of shitty personality. Stuff like what Irene got caught doing, she needed to take her lumps on that. Any drink driving scandals... and sorry to say to Onces, but Chaeyoung did deserve a bit of backlash for the shirt thing, although I think it got a bit out of hand.

Translation: "Blackpink don't actually make mistakes, but these other groups do."

Nah, that's a YOU problem.

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Translation: "Blackpink don't actually make mistakes, but these other groups do."

Nah, that's a YOU problem.

Aww havent had to give a dipshit the condescending headpat for a while... Congrats

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Aww havent had to give a dipshit the condescending headpat for a while... Congrats

That's all you got? Sad.

I think your reactions to idols is more of a conduit for you to express your own morals usually.

If something is wrong for society as a whole: racism, sexism, ageism, classism.

For instance: i love Red Velvet, however every time Wendy says something racist i loved that she got shut down immediately and people followed suit to teach her not to say shit like that and she learned thank god

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Translation: "Blackpink don't actually make mistakes, but these other groups do."

Nah, that's a YOU problem.

Hmmm they didnt like... break laws or hurt people

She didnt like do an online performance for underage fans either…. And The Idol was literally completeLY re-edited from what Jennie shot…….

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Hmmm they didnt like... break laws or hurt people

She didnt like do an online performance for underage fans either…. And The Idol was literally completeLY re-edited from what Jennie shot…….

Err... editing always comes after shooting. She still shot what she shot. Its not like they replaced the original Jennie with an AI one. I wasn't even criticizing her though. She can appear in as many god awful shows as she wants, I was just pointing out someone's obvious-as-ever agenda.

It depends on my mood. What I learn from debate team is you can argue both sides convincingly alot of times.

Whether or not I agree with my faves situation, I don't like antis free bashing on my faves so I'll definitely defend if I have the time.

But most the time I just don't have time to argue. Maybe on the weekend.

If I think it's fair absolutely. I only dislike when it's obvious hate, then I'll defend them with my nails and teeth. But I believe everyone should be held accountable for their own actions, cause and consequence is a thing and I'm not and won't shield anyone, specially If they're grown ups