I'm not supporting Le Sserafim anymore! Enough is enough! This is DISGUSTING!

    This happens when you have everything from the start, and you feel you don't have to work anymore! Le Sserafim is a 2 year old group, and acting like if they're in this industry for at least 10 years. I heard them sing live, but they never sound this SHIT!

    I couldn't say it's shit, because this isn't even singing, this is sleep-singing. They're not interested. I get it, this is just a meaningless Music Show, and basically no one cares about these Awards anymore, but their fans PAID A LOT OF MONEY to see them, and this is what they do? This is DISRESPECTFUL and DISGUSTING!


    To be fair, it fits well with the song, because this is LAZY and their "song" is called EASY.


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    I don't want to compare, but I had enough of this madness! Look at this Mamamoo Music Show performance, they literally on Hwasa's back, all 3 of them, and still singing better than most groups. You can hear the backtrack with Mamamoo, too, because everyone use backtrack, but they SING, and they SING LIVE!

    Even Blackpink didn't do shit like this, and that says a LOT!


    This shit shouldn't be allowed, they should take away their Award! This is disrespectful to the FANS and to REAL ARTISTS!


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    Before you're typing like crazy: I'm a Music fan, I LOVE ART, and MUSIC IS ART! Even if you're not interested, you put some effort in your performance. Also, I'm not a COMPANY STAN, so don't even dare to mention that, I ONLY STAN ART AND ARTISTS!

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    Here before the ban.

    What ban? If the Mods ban me for stating my opinion, good for them, I don't care. I still won't stan lazy, so called singers, who earn money for singing. I liked them till now. I'm not a 10 year old idiot who leave the fandom because they start dating or doing some weird shit. I only leave a fandom, when they "perform" like this. I paid for their albums, I will sell them all. If HYBE let their so called artists to do things like this, it says a LOT about them too.


    HYBE stans or blindfolded Le Sserafim fans can hate me, I don't give a damn! Like I said, I ONLY STAN ART and ARTISTS!

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    I'm amazed at how you manage to through shade at Blackpink regardless of topic

    Actually, I praised them, but okay. Blackpink usually don't sing live, but they NEVER put a lazy performance like this. That is what I said. That's a compliment. At least, they tried to hide their flaws or laziness, and I would NEVER judge any group or soloist for not singing live on a Music Show, ONLY if they do it on their concerts!

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    Actually, I praised them, but okay. Blackpink usually don't sing live, but they NEVER put a lazy performance like this. That is what I said. That's a compliment. At least, they tried to hide their flaws or laziness, and I would NEVER judge any group or soloist for not singing live on a Music Show, ONLY if they do it on their concerts!

    Definition of a backhanded compliment lmao

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    I honestly agree with you because they need to improve + Sakura rlly didn't improve from her shaky voice and girly has been in this industry for a long time. What's the point of music if they can't sing live. The one thing that is not keeping them from not being not popular group is that their label's connections, the visuals, and the concept. But I feel like that the company shouldn't be getting ppl that have no potiential

    Exactly! If Le Sserafim is a small company group, the next they have to release a statement and say sorry to their fans. Or even worse, Knetz and the Industry would crucify them.


    Now, people should think about this: What if KISS OF LIFE doing this, a new group from a small company. The next day they would be finished for good.

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    What do you expect me to do? Blackpink don't sing live 90% of the time, not even at their concert, and their performance is bang average at best. But as I said, they NEVER did anything like this on an Award Show! It's not my fault if they're a good example for lazy performance.

    David33 no matter the topic:

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    David33 no matter the topic:

    I didn't say Blackpink sucks. I just don't like their music, and their performance. I'm only criticizing their talent and I was fair, every time.


    But here, this is Blackpink's WORST Music Show performance, probably, and it's still MILES BETTER than this shit from Le Sserafim.


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    I feel like we shouldn't be ditching them bc thats js uhh, like yunjin has rlly good vocals and chaewon, it would be unfair to be ditching them bc of this

    No I mean it's fair that he feels that way because of their singing. Some ppl have different expectations from idols. Performance and skills is a valid reason, especially when you're paying to see them. After all our money is valuable

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    Blackpink acc have good vocals and there stable, but haters keep on hating

    It's not hate, it's a fair criticism. Yes, they're stable vocalists, because their songs are not hard to sing, but ONLY Rose can sing, and she's not that stable. Jennie and Lisa are not singers, at all. Jisoo and Rose has the biggest potential to be great singers.


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    No I mean it's fair that he feels that way because of their singing. Some ppl have different expectations from idols. Performance and skills is a valid reason, especially when you're paying to see them. After all our money is valuable

    Exactly. And it's not like I hate them, I just won't support them anymore, and for me, it's not only about Idols, I do this with every artist, not just with singers. I grew-up with a vocal coach mother, I literally lived on a tour bus half of my life. I'm not supporting lazy people.

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    I didn't say Blackpink sucks. I just don't like their music, and their performance. I'm only criticizing their talent and I was fair, every time.


    But here, this is Blackpink's WORST Music Show performance, probably, and it's still MILES BETTER than this shit from Le Sserafim.


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    I will give you 1000 akorns if you can go 2 weeks without mentioning Blackpink

    I don't care that much about encore stages (though I find it sad how many idols now seem so terrified/self-conscious during them when it should be a fun celebration) but "Easy" as a song would go from a 7/10 to a 9/10 if they didn't have to use so much autotune on half of the member's voices. Chaewon and Yunjin's verses are easily the best parts of the song.

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    they use autotuning, i didn't know that

    It's pretty obvious


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    I'm not against all autotune either, it's just an incongruous experience on a song when some members are heavily autotuned while other members aren't - at that point it doesn't feel like a stylistic choice but as a vocal crutch to get past certain verses.

    Stan KISS OF LIFE, they can sing

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    I will give you 1000 akorns if you can go 2 weeks without mentioning Blackpink

    Are you sure about this? You don't have much a🌽🤔


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    yap yap yap

    You don't have to agree with me, but don't call an opinion based on Professional knowledge, HATE!

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    they use autotuning, i didn't know that

    A lot of groups use autotune, not just them or TWICE, but not everyone use too much.

    Sadly kpoppies are getting used to this kind of performances that nowadays they actually believe it is normal to sing badly because they are "having fun" during encores. I wouldn't go that far an unstan a group just because they are bad singers, as long as i like their music

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    Sadly kpoppies are getting used to this kind of performances that nowadays they actually believe it is normal to sing badly because they are "having fun" during encores. I wouldn't go that far an unstan a group just because they are bad singers, as long as i like their music

    Everyone has different standards, this is mine. They won't care about me leaving their fandom, but they should apologize to their fans who were there, at least.

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    Exactly! If Le Sserafim is a small company group, the next they have to release a statement and say sorry to their fans. Or even worse, Knetz and the Industry would crucify them.


    Now, people should think about this: What if KISS OF LIFE doing this, a new group from a small company. The next day they would be finished for good.

    They did this atrocity of a performance where they did not even bother to lip sync properly and no one said a word, so yeah nope


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    They did this atrocity of a performance where they did not even bother to lip synd properly and no one said a word, so yeah nope


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    I agree with your point that KOL also did bad, but people on this forum DID call them out on it in a thread :melon_think:

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    I agree with your point that KOL also did bad, but people on this forum DID call them out on it in a thread :melon_think:

    There was no career ending mass hate that OP implied, on twitter no one even bothered and most Armys even praised them....point being that their nuguness actually saves them from mass hate. Nugus from small companies can get away with bad performances unlike artists from bigger companies who are popular.

    Most people here are just casual listeners of LSF anyway. I doubt OP bought their album to say 'not supporting'. By their next comeback, you will come out with your next hot takes but you still need to consume their music to do that :sweat:

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    There was no career ending mass hate that OP implied, on twitter no one even bothered and most Armys even praised them....point being that their nuguness actually saves them from mass hate. Nugus from small companies can get away with bad performances unlike artists from bigger companies who are popular.

    I see what you're saying. I have noticed a hate train for hybe ggs specifically, but honestly I do think lsf performed horribly here. I think David was right about their perf being bad, but I dont agree that their careers should end because of it or that they have a plot against their fans

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