Why are GGs flopping on Spotify?

  • Twice and LSF underwhelming debuts on Spotify. One came back after their longest hiatus and the other had their biggest hit with PN but both pulled mediocre number.


    Idle promoting like four diff songs and none of them are doing well. All Ive recent singles flopped. What's going on



    Before someone with low IQ comes at me, let me make it clear this is not a hate thread. I am genuinely confused at GGs recent underperformance on global charts.

  • Le sserafim debut isn’t underwhelming at all. With only a tracking period of 15hrs they were able to crack the Spotify global at 1.4mill. Not only that, this is their highest peak in Spotify US.

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  • Lsf was 15hrs. We'll see tomorrow how much they increase. Also playlisting was really less. Fearnots were saying only 7M playlist reach.

    Yup they did that with weak ass playlist reach too.

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  • How is lsfm flopping on spotify? And I am not sure which numbers people expected for IVE's remake lol

    Which is why I said singles. I've Mine era titles didn't do well either. All night also pulled less streams than I Do by Idle which was a ballad.

    Lsf was 15hrs. We'll see tomorrow how much they increase. Also playlisting was really less. Fearnots were saying only 7M playlist reach.

    Le sserafim debut isn’t underwhelming at all. With only a tracking period of 15hrs they were able to crack the Spotify global at 1.4mill. Not only that, this is their highest peak in Spotify US.

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    Aren't Le sserafim numbers actually good for filtered streams with 15 hours tracking?

    1.5M is actually very good.

    Friday releases which are said to have full day tracking only have 4 hours more so i don't understand this 15 hours of tracking thing. At most their streams would have increase by 200k which would bring them to 1.6M which is still meh for a Hybe GG who had the biggest non NewJeans GG song last year.


    Perfect Night was EVERYWHERE. It's still charting on Spotify. Coming off from that, Easy' debut is indeed underwhelming.


    Their US streams are def impressive tho. If they continue like this, a bubbling under entry is possible. How is it doing on itunes?

  • Friday releases which are said to have full day tracking only have 4 hours more so i don't understand this 15 hours of tracking thing. At most their streams would have increase by 200k which would bring them to 1.6M which is still meh for a Hybe GG who had the biggest non NewJeans GG song last year.


    Perfect Night was EVERYWHERE. It's still charting on Spotify. Coming off from that, Easy' debut is indeed underwhelming.


    Their US streams are def impressive tho. If they continue like this, a bubbling under entry is possible. How is it doing on itunes?

    What are you even talking about lol Hopefully im understanding you correctly but Perfect Night was everywhere? At debut? EASY Spotify debut numbers are better than Perfect Night’s

    at only 15hrs of tracking. Easy has already debuted better than Perfect Night. Now longevity is another thing but let’s not rewrite history about PN’s debut. Here are some stats below.

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    And for EASY in iTunes

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  • Sis when did I ever talk about its debut ;(


    No, you're not understanding me correctly.

    Was perfect night viral or not? Its their longest charting song on Spotify behind AF. Also their biggest song in Japan and USA. It's fine if you think these numbers are okay. But lbr, they are not. They will prolly go up tomorrow but let's see by how much.

  • so the time come huh?


    now we finally have threads 'how much spins' on spo instead of 'how much views' on yt :eyeroll-pepe:


    it's all rock'n'rolla paid paid paid payolaaaaa :swing-pepe:

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  • PN didn't enter on the release day either, it grew gradually. Easy doing better than PN initial stats wise.

    The current gg music is not what's trendy?? Wife, Super Lady, Untouchable, Sonar, Dash, All Night, Struck in the middle doesn't seems like the songs that global public will eat up. Easy is too early to say, if it's a grower for the public, it will pick up. I Got You need to go viral in order to do well idk.


    Idk bruh, Le Sserafim coming back with another hype tracks like Unforgiven or Antifragile won't help them this year, Source Music made the right choice with Easy after PN success and Coachella soon.

    :pepe-notes:

  • Sis when did I ever talk about its debut ;(


    No, you're not understanding me correctly.

    Was perfect night viral or not? It’s their longest charting song on Spotify behind AF. Also their biggest song in Japan and USA. It's fine if you think these numbers are okay. But lbr, they are not. They will prolly go up tomorrow but let's see by how much.

    Yeah I don’t understand your point because it doesn’t make sense, if you’re not comparing the debuts between the two songs then there’s nothing else to compare them with because EASY just dropped yesterday and so far EASY has better debut numbers. Yes, the only logical thing would be to see how their numbers go the rest of the week. You may have an argument with IDLE and IVE but not really with LSF.

  • so the time come huh?


    now we finally have threads 'how much spins' on spo instead of 'how much views' on yt :eyeroll-pepe:


    it's all rock'n'rolla paid paid paid payolaaaaa :swing-pepe:

    Lol, it was bound to happen. Spotify >>> YT for a while now.

    Yeah I don’t understand your point because it doesn’t make sense, if you’re not comparing the debuts between the two songs then there’s nothing else to compare them with because EASY just dropped yesterday and so far EASY has better debut numbers. Yes, the only logical thing would be to see how their numbers go the rest of the week. You may have an argument with IDLE and IVE but not really with LSF.

    All I am saying is for PN's success or how much y'all hyped it, Easy debut is underwhelming. Perfect Night is their biggest song. Did 100+ days on Spotify and AM. 1.4M streams debut after that is not impressive at all. Sorry.

  • PN didn't enter on the release day either, it grew gradually. Easy doing better than PN initial stats wise.

    The current gg music is not what's trendy?? Wife, Super Lady, Untouchable, Sonar, Dash, All Night, Struck in the middle doesn't seems like the songs that global public will eat up. Easy is too early to say, if it's a grower for the public, it will pick up. I Got You need to go viral in order to do well idk.


    Idk bruh, Le Sserafim coming back with another hype tracks like Unforgiven or Antifragile won't help them this year, Source Music made the right choice with Easy after PN success and Coachella soon.

    :pepe-notes:

    There's no saving I got you, even going viral won't help

  • All I am saying is for PN's success or how much y'all hyped it, Easy debut is underwhelming. Perfect Night is their biggest song. Did 100+ days on Spotify and AM. 1.4M streams debut after that is not impressive at all. Sorry.

    What in the holy Grail of false equivalence arguments is this? Why are you comparing the lifetime numbers of PN to the debut numbers of Easy? That literally makes no sense whatsoever. Easy had a BIGGER debut than PN, and that's all the data we have, so what is your basis for calling its numbers unimpressive, when they are better at debut than the song you're comparing it to?


    Please make this make sense because the math ain't mathin.

  • :pepestare::pepefacepalm:


    TWICE exist.

    TWICE has a much bigger fandom and is a much more prestigious group than NJ for sure, but they don't have the same widespread appeal in western country's. NJ is everywhere among teens and Gen Z kids


    OMG is only one year old and is already significantly bigger than any TWICE song on Spotify. It comes to no surprise that, despite having many time bigger discography and a new release single TWICE is already pulling less daily streams than NewJeans m. NJ has 9 songs pulling over 300k daily streams, TWICE has one I Got You


    With only 18 months of existence and 3 comebacks NJs already have 47% of TWICE total streams. They are likely to have the same amount of streams TWICE has now before their third group anniversary

  • What in the holy Grail of false equivalence arguments is this? Why are you comparing the lifetime numbers of PN to the debut numbers of Easy? That literally makes no sense whatsoever. Easy had a BIGGER debut than PN, and that's all the data we have, so what is your basis for calling its numbers unimpressive, when they are better at debut than the song you're comparing it to?


    Please make this make sense because the math ain't mathin.

    I am not comparing it to PN. That's the thing. With how successful their last comeback was I simply expected higher streams. Like.. be objective, were any of you impressed by this mediocre debut because I wasn't. It is an underwhelming debut in my opinion.


    It would be great if it does well later on cuz I like the song but the debut ain't great and that's my whole point.

  • TWICE has a much bigger fandom and is a much more prestigious group than NJ for sure, but they don't have the same widespread appeal in western country's. NJ is everywhere among teens and Gen Z kids


    OMG is only one year old and is already significantly bigger than any TWICE song on Spotify. It comes to no surprise that, despite having many time bigger discography and a new release single TWICE is already pulling less daily streams than NewJeans m. NJ has 9 songs pulling over 300k daily streams, TWICE has one I Got You


    With only 18 months of existence and 3 comebacks NJs already have 47% of TWICE total streams. They are likely to have the same amount of streams TWICE has now before their third group anniversary

    Why is your entire post NJ vs Twice lmao


    Twice are selling out stadiums worldwide and are gonna end their tour with 1.5M attendees easily. They are def worldwide popular.

  • Why is your entire post NJ vs Twice lmao


    Twice are selling out stadiums worldwide and are gonna end their tour with 1.5M attendees easily. They are def worldwide popular.

    It wasn't my intention to make this a flame war, I'm sorry if this was how it sounds


    TWICE numbers are incredible, but touring numbers aren't enough to reflect on Spotify streaming charts. For streaming charts you need casuals. TWICE has a lot of casuals, but not in the same level as the 2 aforementioned groups. As such TWICe has a ceilling on how much they can get when releasing a song. The same is true for the 4th gen girlies, G Idle and LSRF are not flopping they simply don't have reached an audience big enough to pull 3 million plus daily streams for a single track

  • Those that are still getting into Spotify Global 200 are doing ok.


    Those that are not, it is not good. I'm not going to say the F word, but big picture they are done. These global charts are too expensive to sajaegi for a long time, unlike other irrelevant and inconsequential charts.

  • Guys, take a chill pill! This is just Spotify, not God's garden. 🤣


    Who cares about Spotify? I mean, seriously. Spotify and Youtube is for mass streamers, no one else. Compared to Blackpink, BTS and NewJeans, everyone is a flop, basically. Just because a group or a soloist don't have 100M+ streams after a couple of days, doesn't mean they're flops.


    Having low streaming numbers, doesn't mean the song is trash or the artist. It means they're not mainstream, and overhyped, and you should stand up, and jumping like a crazy person, and be happy about that. Hype kills the creativity in every artist. Also, it brings in a LOT of toxicity.


    Enjoy the fact that your faves are "flops". 😅


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  • It wasn't my intention to make this a flame war, I'm sorry if this was how it sounds


    TWICE numbers are incredible, but touring numbers aren't enough to reflect on Spotify streaming charts. For streaming charts you need casuals. TWICE has a lot of casuals, but not in the same level as the 2 aforementioned groups. As such TWICe has a ceilling on how much they can get when releasing a song. The same is true for the 4th gen girlies, G Idle and LSRF are not flopping they simply don't have reached an audience big enough to pull 3 million plus daily streams for a single track

    .. so basically spotify >>> touring for you

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