SM New Boy Group 'RIIZE' Gets Dragged Through The Mud By Kpop Stans & Compared To NCT

i just heard the song they are all complaining about is not even in the album

it's not even going to be an official release so it doesn't matter. My only complaint is why bother with a pre-debut performance showcase?

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And why did Blackpink bother with a predebut performance showcase ?

Why ateez bother with a predebut performance showcase ?

I swear sometimes i wonder if some of you have even see a pre-debut group promo because tons of groups do it and did it in the past too

Or ppl just have a problem with this type of predebut performance suddenly just cuz its a SM group 😑😑😑

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don't get mad, just consider answering the question

so the answer you have is "because sometimes other groups do it"? Cool, not a reason I'll fully understand but it's an answer ig

These people have just released a performance vid and controversies are already being formed. this is going to be a huge debut

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3. What is suppose to be a NCT song ? Because from what i know NCT dream is also a nct subunit and hello future doesn't sound at all like superhuman or firetruck etc.... Nct have tried so many different music style so it's hard to not do something who might sound at one point like one of the concept they already tried

People would call everything another SM act releases an NCT song these days

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it's not even going to be an official release so it doesn't matter. My only complaint is why bother with a pre-debut performance showcase?

i guess so fans can get a preview of their performances ??

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This people just looks dumb because

1. Siren isn't even part of riize discography

2. The boys didn't release any photo teaser or concept trailer to show their concept or identity as a group yet

All they release for the moment is just a video to show their dance skills

3. What is suppose to be a NCT song ? Because from what i know NCT dream is also a nct subunit and hello future doesn't sound at all like superhuman or firetruck etc.... Nct have tried so many different music style so it's hard to not do something who might sound at one point like one of the concept they already tried

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they have released concept pics though

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I'm not mad , i'm just tired of explain the simplest thing to people who seem to not be able to think by themselves 😑

Your question is just ( sorry the word ) dumb so i don't think it deserve an answer that you can't find yourself if you try to think for more than 1 sec

Why would a kpop group where half of the members skills are unknow from the public would want to release a performance video ?

While knowing that kpop is music genre very oriented on performance and dance skills ?

Wow yeah the answer of your question seem really hard to find

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doubling down on being rude isn't helping, it was a legit question with the idea that maybe I'm missing something, and maybe I don't understand the full picture. You've decided to reward curiosity with rudeness, that screams insecurity.

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No it just scream " tired of answering question when the answer is so obvious that anybody would be able to find it if they would think 0.001 sec "

then ignore the question? don't type essays about how tired you are. someone else was able to answer my question just fine. you don't need to be stressed about teenage korean pop dude, relax

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The pic released are related to Siren performance video not about the concept of their mini album

They have the same outfit than they have in the Mv of siren and SM even use siren lyrics in the legend of the picture

It's a typical thing to do from sm to release this type of picture related to the video they do the same when they release side track for NCT or aespa

The next day they always upload the picture of it

hmmm nooo they don't ahve the same outfits in the concept pics and in the siren video

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Guuuurl your question was stupid and i'm able to call it stupid because you keep asking the same question in every riize thread for whatever reason

When you already got the answer yesterday in the thread about riize performance video and even was able to your own question 😑😑

stupid questions are fine, its a forum after all

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This people just looks dumb because

3. What is suppose to be a NCT song ?

didn't you already compare it to an NCT sound or has that opinion mysteriously changed

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It's the exact same outfit that they wore in the first scene with shotaro, wonbin and seughan

And the same outfit who reappear at 0.33 of the video

i looked for them in the video i don't have ur eyes

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Sorry people are being rude to you, I'm gonna bounce off the pretty Aeicy and agree, I think it was just to demonstrate their dancing ability maybe give fans a glimpse of them. Since this isn't a song on the upcoming album, it does sound very nctish, but i think that's just the little mix. People, like myself, enjoy that type of music i'm like full version when? However, since it's not on the upcoming album which that tracklist posted after this video, I think people should really wait to see what kind of sound they will have before assuming it's another NCT 2.0 knock off. Which people are doing so over a snippet that really says nothing.

But i also think some fans are still upset about what happened to Shotaro and Sungchan. If they DO end up sounding quite similiar to NCT, it would be like why didn't they just keep them in NCT, why are they forming this group at all? So i am really hoping they are exactly as they say they are and sound completely different but we won't know til all of that is released.

I really enjoy NCT's music so I'm curious to see what this new group will sound like. With SM being a complete mess with all the LSM and Kakao crap, it does feel like they made drastic changes and are pushing stuff out so I hope it's not something half ass.

thank you for a genuine reply in good faith. I'm skeptical about a lot of ways debut promotions are done because "that's just how it's done" which is why I wanted to ask

and with my impression of how complicated the history is with this group and the NCT stuff, I thought I'd ask in case there was a bigger picture question here, like lore, or maybe it's a sample of an older song, or anything at all that would have guided this decision

i appreciate the thoughtful answer

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my problem isn't with people saying this song sound like nct

But people saying that they are nct 2.0 or this group isn't suppose to exist if they sound like nct when this song isn't even part of their discography

And if people are calling them nct 2.0 just because this song sound like something nct can release than we can call many group a nct 2.0 because nct have tried so many different sound and not just the noise sound that people try to push on them 😑

well some things are just not in our control

It's not an Sm group if they don't get hated on at their debut

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thank you for a genuine reply in good faith. I'm skeptical about a lot of ways debut promotions are done because "that's just how it's done" which is why I wanted to ask

and with my impression of how complicated the history is with this group and the NCT stuff, I thought I'd ask in case there was a bigger picture question here, like lore, or maybe it's a sample of an older song, or anything at all that would have guided this decision

i appreciate the thoughtful answer

Siren samples a song from H.O.T, SM's very first boy group. So maybe it's some kind of a homage.

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There's no bigger picture

But siren is using a sample from HOT "era of violence" and the mv outfit are also inspire by the fashion of era of violence mv

That's why the teaser picture have such a old school filtee

i disagree, that's actually useful information. Sampling SM's older material means they are aware of their musical history and that we can probably expect more nostalgic elements in their music, as opposed to being aggressively futuristic. That's a very deliberate concept decision that they could be priming us for