Correcting misinformation (ft twice & BP)

its just (crazy) onces that think twice is above bp in any way, shape or form

its just boring talking back with them

let me add this to the thread you might include this in your op if you want

highest on-demand streams for kpop ggs on bb200:

1.) blackpink, the album, 2020 - 40.3M
2.) blackpink, born pink, 2022 - 37.49M
3.) blackpink, ktl, 2019 - 12.4M
4.) blackpink, square up, 2018 - 12M
3.) twice, formula of love, 2021 - 12M
4.) twice, ready to be, 2023 - 10.28M

I mean come on anyone that's not delulu and thinking sane knows already about these things. No need for a thread

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its just (crazy) onces that think twice is above bp in any way, shape or form

its just boring talking back with them

Clearly not boring enough you still do it hahaha. But anyways BP is doing great and so is Twice. Twice has the most albums sold and BP has more streams. They both can tour to amazing numbers. It’s that simple.

Brownstink has officially been flushed. It's already starting to smell better in here.

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That doesn't make sense

if spotify is not counting nov/dec of 2022, they must be counting nov/dec of 2021

And guess who released an album back in those months and why those streams are included in the 2022 edition

Being comfortable in your faves' superiority wouldn't require entering others' threads to downplay, this goes to many people on both sides

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Spotify wrapped always counts Jan-oct

BTS could not release a song for years and no boy group would have more streams than them on Spotify. This is the difference between BP level of fame and BTS.BYS can’t be topped at all on anything. BP can given the right circumstances.

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See this thread wouldn’t be needed if onces knew their place💀 I said what I said

The thread wouldn’t be needed if BP actually dominated like BTS. You don’t see EXOls or SVT fans making threads about BTS because no matter how long BTS doesn’t release music no one will have more Spotify numbers than them.

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BP can given the right circumstances.

In an HIATUS, which speaks higher for them

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Twice has the most physical albums sold not most album units cause I'm not even sure they surpassed BP in digital albums sold

BP still has more album units at almost 2.5M units across all their albums (2 EPs & 2 albums)

Twice has sold more albums in total.

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Ofc it’s this shady once being obtuse as per, bringing up @@@d69ea408-d1ce-4480-b71b-b623ade9f7c6@@@ to deflect like I don’t remember them having 30 fucking songs and a hiatus each year. Y’all getting bold and for what💀 bp biggest kpop gg in us cope

BP is the biggest girl group in America haha. I don’t disagree. But Twice is also big there. I bring in BTS just as an example of a group that truly dominates.

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Agreed & wanna know how?

In 2017 BTS charted on under bubbling with spring day then BP charted even higher with aiiyl

Naturally BTS DNA charted on hot 100 & naturally BP Nov CB should chart also higher but guess what? BP took a year hiatus 🚶

Said pattern kept repeating till this day when BTS released 9 albums(almost 100 songs!!) since their first hot 100 entry while BP released 4 (just 16 songs...)

If BP went with BTS intensity,they will also be untouchable right now in every metric

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Sure, the big word there being IF. They could just as easily not. Releasing more albums does not guarantee you do exponentially well every time

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Soon enough with BP eng singles debut imminent 🙂

Tho I imagine NJ will still give them a run for their money (even BTS records won't be safe)

I do hope BP does well with their releases. Though I do want their music quality to increase a little. The same wants I have for twice as you know I have been critical of their last few releases for their lack of catchiness and longevity.

NJs I think can combine the strengths of BP and Twice. That’s why I see a stronger future for them than either of the before mentioned groups. The future is most probably NJs.

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BP has sold more albums in total

US uses units methodology to count album/song sales (pure sales + streams)

Twice has one component & that warrants accreditation in itself but BP is the best selling K-pop GG in the US with almost 2.5M album units sold while twice has less than that 😌

I’m saying out of all their albums, in total. But yes Twice is the best selling pure sales group in the US and BP is the best selling including streams. But overall including every album it is Twice with the most sales. They have close to 16 or 17 million by now.

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That doesn't make sense

if spotify is not counting nov/dec of 2022, they must be counting nov/dec of 2021

I actually asked this once but I think they just don’t count Nov/Dec someone told me let me look it up haha

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Explain how twice keeps charting better with each CB then 💀

Obviously album wise,twice were never in the race when it comes to creating US hits 💀

U know quite well BP will be untouchable if they had more songs point blank

I have my criticisms of Twice. When did I say they are charting better? I’m not talking about Twice. I said releasing more doesn’t guarantee more streams, that’s clear with twice. I want twice to return to their routes with more catchy songs not necessarily cute. I think Twice could learn a lot from their juniors like Ive and NJs. But I do think Twice is past their streaming prime. I think BP is in their prime and I think NJs is just starting.

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Twice has sold more albums in total.

And BP has more streams, tour revenue, chart entries, recognition and sales in the us and by a large gap alogn with longevity yet you try to say they don't have any dominatio over twice, despite them doing mostly big debuts and thats it.

Like BP longest charting album is over 18 weeks above twice longest, in the same fashion BP has debuted 7 songs on the hot 100 and 3 on the bubbling under this decade giving 25 weeks of charting, while twice has done 4 between bubbling and hot100, how isn't that total domination?

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That doesn't make sense

if spotify is not counting nov/dec of 2022, they must be counting nov/dec of 2021

Yeah it’s true they just don’t count Nov/dec haha 4A9A4294-D1FF-4154-B581-D205F3631202.jpeg

But this is Spotify wrapped idk if that’s inclusive of all of Spotify tracking and those year end chart things. So I can’t say if OP is true about that part.

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BP will do more than okay 😌

NJ is a beast so far but they might never be able to match BP global popularity (being first has its advantages u know) they will be huge fo sure but as long as BP continues as a group,they will always be bigger

BP needs to release better music. Their music isn’t that good for the amount of time is between two releases. Not saying it’s bad but I’ll use the famous words of Jisoo. Not bad… but not good either just ok. But of course BP has loyal fans so really no matter their release they will be successful. The same is true of Twice to a lesser extent.

NJs will probably do better than BP. Being first doesn’t matter much. BP is an older group, it’s natural for the new groups to start to eclipse the older groups.

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Okay this whole post isn’t even directed at you then?💀 btw bp actually dominates but stay delulu

Blinks should be more Delulu like Hardcore. The rest of y’all are just boring to talk to honestly.

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With BP it definitely does 👀

Twice can benefit from k-pop increasingly global exposure so then getting a hit is not impossible but they have to do certain things right (something jyp doesn't seem capable of doing)

With the type of music Twice releases they won’t have a hit line their last ones again. Twice missed their streaming peak. They didn’t join Spotify until 2018 which is after they released their biggest hits and when they were in their more middle hit phase. Also Kpop was still entering the global market. BP benefits from how they are produced and marketed. In that way YG is very smart. Twice went with the more girls next door idols which is good for the start but it’s hard to maintain that cool factor. BP didn’t have that problem. The girls are what made BP of course. With other girls the YG strategy could have easily failed.