We will probably see one of the Big 3 become like DSP and the question is who will fall first?

SM are facing the only challenge that could be considered a true existential crisis

Perhaps this is the natural life cycle of an entertainment company as its founder becomes more and more of a liability

The Big 3 have had years where they have had millions of dollars in losses which would arguably be enough to sink every Label under HYBE except Big Hit, I was about to say Pledis but they wouldn't survive that loss either.

The reason the Big 3 can survive is due to their Trainee System which can debut a Boy and Girl Group at the drop of the hat if they needed to. The quality would at least be at the level of their current Groups which is what would be expected.

DSP on the other hand were basically living from group to group where the company has no identity or brand.

it all points out to sm but I doubt it will happen I don't think the dsp situation will happen again

Prob JYP.

SM even with current issues can still get funding to keep going. So long as they don't go full stupid and blow money nothing will drastically change in terms of them running as a big company

YG similar. They've had investments from Naver and such and probably YG criminal mates

JYP has no real big bank investors and isn't a seemingly attracting any. If they have droughts or bad years then they have to hope only in themselves to bail out.

I think SM will be fine. This scandal they've got going on they'll somehow escape unscathed.

YG is in trouble cause their only relevant group is Blackpink and they're horribly mismanaged. Beyond that though YG was known for their cutting-edge sound, nobody was doing it like them. They've completely lost that to the point where the music is predictable. I think they're in trouble, this Baby Monster is gonna be important.

JYP is also just not really relevant nowadays, it feels like its been years since they've released a hit among the GP. They sell decent and have their fandoms but will it be enough to secure an automatic spot at the top.

All I know is even with BTS's hiatus, HYBE is running circles around all three of them right now.

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JYP has no real big bank investors and isn't a seemingly attracting any. If they have droughts or bad years then they have to hope only in themselves to bail out.

Investments are really just a short term means to generate cash flow but they are the first that will sink your company when they demand payment. If YGE weren't financially secured they would have sunk due to the Seungri Scandal.

JYPE currently has the highest Market Cap of the Big 3 but more than that, they have established a market in Japan with NiziU and their brother group due to come out this year. They will debut their 2nd China based group, their first American Kpop Group and 2 Korean Boy Groups this year.

JYPE's stock prices rose whenever TWICE were going to tour Japan, the same is with NiziU because Japan is a big money maker for Kpop groups

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JYP is also just not really relevant nowadays, it feels like its been years since they've released a hit among the GP. They sell decent and have their fandoms but will it be enough to secure an automatic spot at the top.

Itzy debut in 2019, NiziU in 2020 while NMixx in 2022, all of these GGs have sold over a million Physicals. Itzy is a Million Seller that is on a World Tour while NiziU performed 4 Japan Dome Concerts wrapping up a their Japan Tour of 330k spectators

During the 2nd Gen, Wondergirls and miss A were killing the charts but hardly made much money because JYPark seemed to obsessed with chasing Charts. He got "kicked out" of the CEO job and JYPE stopped bleeding money for his "projects"

The thing is, Boy Groups have historically proven that you don't need to chart high on the Song Charts to make a killing when you have fans.

The 4th gen GGs are proof that you can sell almost a million albums on debut with out any of the public hearing your song

SM - change management, replacing producers with executives which have no background in music industry. Identity crisis as they want to drop kwangya

YG - heavy reliance on Blackpink. Once blackpink doesnt resign, they're doomed. Baemon could be their saving grace though

JYP - reliance on older groups like Twice, SKZ and ITZY for funding newer groups. These groups are like cash cow now (can see from the bduget of their MVs). SKZ remains most successful now and probably has the biggest hardcore fandom to go long way. GGs tend to be more short-lived but can see JYP started to give solos to Twice members which is a plus.

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The 4th gen GGs are proof that you can sell almost a million albums on debut with out any of the public hearing your song

sorry NONE of the 4th gen GGs are selling almost a million albums on debut without a big hit. NONE of them. NMIXX isnt close, neither is Kep1er.

IVE, LE SSERAFIM and NewJeans have accompanying huge hit(s) for their debut. In LE SSERAFIM case, it is also not close to 1 million but they're slowing getting there

Yg

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Well why spend so much money if you can do the bare minimum and earn more? Basically why I think they'll stick around longer. If you can spend less but earn more at the same time then why not?

Its still not a good idea in the long run

All I gotta say is, as long as HYBE has BTS, they never going down.

And people putting them in the Big 3 or Big 4 title is actually insulting lol, since their bigger than those 3 combined

As you know, Naver Corporation, Tencent Holdings Ltd. and LVMH invested in YG in the past. They are a joint venture with YG.

The company developed a unique system to produce a competitive advantage in an music industry that typically experiences high failure rates and substantial uncertainty regarding the success of artists. Anyway, they must decide the company's next steps for growth, and whether Asia, Europe, or the United States will be the most promising for YG's future success.

It will never happen simply because the big 3 expended themselves beyond music, dsp had relayed too much on it groups and they didn't expend themselves that's why they ended up falling down