So female Idols need to cover everything from neck to toes in that KCON Saudi Arabia...
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I don't know the rules, but know enough that they would be different for men and women.
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I don't know the rules, but know enough that they would be different for men and women.
Yeah, I get that for him, but some of his dancers are women, and they are showing more skin that I would have suspected.
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I hope it was same for men too
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Ah I know that they were aware, by they I hope you mean stylists
in same time maybe not skirts or shorts but I expected that they will be able at least to show arms?
well but I like girls in suits too so...
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Well what were you expecting?
But I am surprised, that they still have the hair uncovered...
The government will let stuff go as and when they please
I had a friend that worked at the EDM festival there last year (Soundstorm) and it wasn't exactly Glastonbury but it wasn't "Saudi" either.
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And American artist can’t do what they do in American shows in Korean broadcast either. You can walk top less in SF doesn’t mean that’s gonna be allowed in Seoul.
Korea is already conservative in its expectations of modesty.
So like this is just a country that has its own modesty clauses as well.
People who go there to make money have to follow its rules. Only people who live there can contest the modesty laws because they have to live with the consequences.
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Well that's Saudi Arabia rules and there's nothing wrong with that every country has it own custom not every needs to twist themselves to please westerners
I don't think wearing clothing that covers your body for one hour or two is degrading those idols saw the Saudi money and they didn't hesitate to take it
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The government will let stuff go as and when they please
I had a friend that worked at the EDM festival there last year (Soundstorm) and it wasn't exactly Glastonbury but it wasn't "Saudi" either.
As with all countries, rules are at the discretion of the "powerful"
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hijabs/ niqabs haven't been compulsory in saudi arabia since 2019. if there's a time to be aware of women's rights in the middle east, it's now
Country based laws come, laws go - but the doctrine is eternal, one size fits all, like the hijab
The laws and rules, arise from the doctrine, and as yet nobody is capable of challenging that.
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there's nothing degrading about performing for your fans
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there's nothing degrading about performing for your fans
almost everyone of these concerts are state sponsored
Money going straight into the pocket of a government responsible for alot of shit shows in ME
Bending that much for money is abit.... not tasteful to me
to clarify Im talking as a ME woman, not everyone else is obligate to feel as I do
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This thread has such weird vibes. And careful I know y’all try to hide your bigotry but y’all not doing a good job try harder 😭😭😭😭
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Yeah most likely not, but we will see if they are there. I just hope they will have enough security for them!
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This thread has such weird vibes. And careful I know y’all try to hide your bigotry but y’all not doing a good job try harder 😭😭😭😭
Fr lol... and some are giving vibes that they're concerned the female idols are covering up because THEY wont get to see some skin
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This thread has such weird vibes. And careful I know y’all try to hide your bigotry but y’all not doing a good job try harder 😭😭😭😭
Can't agree more on this, it smells like xenophobia and islamophobia in this thread
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The government controlling what women can do with their bodies is only a topic to complain about if it happens in the west. Nobody cares about women in the East so… yeah, gonna obey the Laws in those countries I say
Because in the west you have the right to do what you want and people have a cushy life to think about shit considered woke. Over there people don't have such luxury. They have to live a harder life provide for their family and adhere to strict government and religion which forms the basis of their laws and culture which is ruled by an iron fist, where people can literally be killed or publicly spanked by the police with a cane or a whip for violating the cultural laws this includes jail time. So of course nobody "complains" when the punishment for objection isn't met with debate and discussion but a sword to your throat.
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Because in the west you have the right to do what you want and people have a cushy life to think about shit considered woke. Over there people don't have such luxury. They have to live a harder life provide for their family and adhere to strict government and religion which forms the basis of their laws and culture which is ruled by an iron fist, where people can literally be killed or publicly spanked by the police with a cane or a whip for violating the cultural laws this includes jail time. So of course nobody "complains" when the punishment for objection isn't met with debate and discussion but a sword to your throat.
I'm sorry but you are so outdated. Saudi has not been like this for years now, and if there is instances it will be the same as any in every exciting country in the world. Y'all just have a grudge against any country that has religion/culture roots.
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So? It's only for once
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Because in the west you have the right to do what you want and people have a cushy life to think about shit considered woke. Over there people don't have such luxury. They have to live a harder life provide for their family and adhere to strict government and religion which forms the basis of their laws and culture which is ruled by an iron fist, where people can literally be killed or publicly spanked by the police with a cane or a whip for violating the cultural laws this includes jail time. So of course nobody "complains" when the punishment for objection isn't met with debate and discussion but a sword to your throat.
No I mean nobody in the west really cares about the struggles of the women who live in such countries. They ignore their scream for help, they are literally left alone with their fight and the few who are brave enough to stand up for their rights might end up killed or tortured. We know about all this, yet most people only point out these ridiculous laws when a western/Kpop act performs there.
Once they done and get back home, nobody cares about the strict laws over there anymore until another women’s death for just demanding rights was trending on Twitter.
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almost everyone of these concerts are state sponsored
Money going straight into the pocket of a government responsible for alot of shit shows in ME
Bending that much for money is abit.... not tasteful to me
to clarify Im talking as a ME woman, not everyone else is obligate to feel as I do
For what i know every company perform in muslim countries. My question is, if you feel this is so degrading. Why you are still into Kpop?
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Im not from singapour
Im a middle eastern so I keep my opinion on topics I know alot about. Sth the rest of you should do.
+ concerts in other countries are not state sponsored like concerts in SA. Money didn't flow into the regimes pockets.
Weird, why do you even care that I personally find this action distasteful? Lmao
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No one said all Muslim countries are like Iran but SA does punish people who offend modesty laws all the same. In some aspects SA is even worse than Iran bc women were not even allowed to drive or go out without male supervision up to few years ago.
Modesty laws have less to do with Islam, more to do with upholding patriarchy. Why are you so hell bend on defending patriarchy?
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Im not from singapour
Im a middle eastern so I keep my opinion on topics I know alot about. Sth the rest of you should do.
+ concerts in other countries are not state sponsored like concerts in SA. Money didn't flow into the regimes pockets.
Weird, why do you even care that I personally find this action distasteful? Lmao
Well. I just find the hypocrisy of some Kpop fans annoying. I mean, you blame a group for the decisions of the company. When everybody knows group cant say shit about business decisions. But maybe im reading all this wrong. And you think is Bad If this groups perform in SA but is ok if Shinee perform in Singapur. So , mysoginy Bad, but homophobia OK.
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Well. I just find the hypocrisy of some Kpop fans annoying. I mean, you blame a group for the decisions of the company. When everybody knows group cant say shit about business decisions. But maybe i mean reading al this wrong. And you think is Bad If this groups perform in SA but is ok if Shinee perform in Singapur. So , mysoginy Bad, but homophobia OK.
You didn't address the two main point.
One: Are you middle eastern like me and actually knowledgeable about political atmosphere there?
Two: was it a state sponsored event like every event in SA is state sponsored?
If every kpop concert were state sponsored, then performing in US would be the worst of them all. But concerts in other countries are not state sponsored.
You are just dodging
Also I specifically said I won't judge nugu or mid idols, they have less control. Top idols should make smarter decisions and they have more control.
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