Do we already admit that SEVENTEEN is indeed one of the most successful Kpop acts ever? MALE OR FEMALE

* Second Best Selling Korean act of all time on both Gaon and HANTEO

* Third Best selling Korean act in Japan of all time

* Third most streamed Idol group on Melon history

* Six most streamed Idol act on Spotify history

and many more

Seventeen this 2022 so far

* Their Full album + repack has sold 4,1M copies, second best selling Kpop act of the year

* Best Selling Kpop act in Japan with over 900,000 copies and the Japan comeback is in October

*World Tour a massive success, Playing to 110,000 People in The US, all 7 Dates in East Asia sold out in minutes, Japan Dome leg of the tour is expected to have 450,000 tickets sold, Seoul already 35,000 Tickets and encore willl surely be help at Jamsil Stadium. The Tour is expected to have over 500,000 tickets sold and to gross over $50M Dollars.

* Over 300 Million Digital Points on melon so far

* HOT already surpassed 100M digital points on gaon

* Darling and HOT are the second and third most streamed boy group song of the year on Melon so far, only BIG-BANG behind them.

* 3 songs on daily melon chart despite being released months ago

And many more

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one of the most successful unknown acts of all time

Un known???? Just because they aren’t Instagram Celebs doesn’t mean they aren’t out grossing some popular acts

Keep it cute

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I'm not trusting of these numbers

Ok Rasputia

We know you are Seventeen is #1 Hater

You don’t have to trust them they are winning

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BTS

BP

Twice

Exo

Snsd

Bigbang

2ne1

TVXQ

Seo Taji

GOD

Compared to this list. I would say definitely no.

Top 10 Male, then yes

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I am not talking about impact or peak

I am talking about SUCCESS… and they have more sales than any group in that list b side BTS

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If you talk about success then svt is only big in album sales in all the other metrics they are too small.

The reason for that is, that the results you are showing are not comparable with 1st and 2nd Gen groups. Because they had different chart back then. So it's not really compareable to use 3rd most streamed group in melon or spotify since the other groups didn't had the charts and apps to use.

Seventeen is the third biggest Idol group on melon Streams with over 3 Billions

Seventeen is a huge touring Force right now one of the biggest touring acts in Korea, about to play 10 Domes in Japan, playing 12 Big Arenas in North America, sold out 2 Philippine dates, 2 Bangkok dates, 2 Jakarta Dates and 1 Singapore

Seventeen is the 6th biggest idol group on Spotify overall streams for Korean music acts.

Seventeen overalll achievements can put those groups you mentioned behind them....

Like i say cultural impact or popularity is a thing.... success another