thank you. no we have some arguments to discuss about.
Its democracy for all. the victims too. But there are also borders for both. As i allready said. the victims are free to voice their dislike. But they cant demand the cancel of the movie. The company is allowed to air the movie. but if they show something the korean law forbids. like plagiarism or the law against dishonor korean history they will get punished. but the decision will be made be a judge and the law not us. So at first we have to see the movie and than we have to wait what the judge say. and than we can bash either the netizens or the producer or wohever failed. but untill now its just the same accusations without proof netizens startet with hometown chachacha or t-ara.
We cant kill the producion without proof or warant cause we like in a democracy now. Thats the laws and rules and achievements the activists/victims fought for.
About the arguments of munwha:
1. He said they are like nazis and we should not make movies portray them as likeable or glorify them.
Well he surely shouldnt watch. The estonian movie 1944. the italian movie Leibstandarte My Honor was loyalty and many more. The problem is that as long you show the whole organisation as bad you can still portray indiviuals within the organisation in another light.
For example the SS. Lets be honest. Wat they did made the NSA look like kindergarten.
There were soldiers who followed the regime and ideology blindly. they hunted people down, killed them. guards the conzentration camps... but there were also french men or from other counquered terretories conscripted into the SS and forced to fight, who deserted at the first possibility. And there are movies who show all this.
Its dictatorships who shut down everthing they dont like. and its democracies wo show everything even if some of the sides they show may not be liked by some people.
2. He said the ANSP were not people who were attempting to catch nk spies and only hunted innocent people mostly students. they tortured and killed not just those who oppose them but everybody. He used the gwanju massaker and park jong cheol as example.
This is partly overexagerating and partly wrong.
For the gwanju massaker firstly 250000 participated. 200 dead. 3500 wounded. 1500 arrested. After the local police partly went over to the revolts, partly refused to fight, and the rest wasnt able to stop the uprising. it was army units mainly 7th airborne brigade who did the massaker. Not the angibo. The DSC Defense Security Command often known by its short name Boansa (Boan Saryeongbu) was responsible for some torturing but that was also not the angibo. Secondly if they were as terrible as op claimed theyere would be 250000 dead not 200.
The death of bak jong cheol seven years later caused demonstations were a protester was seriously injured by a tear gas grenade. that caused the june struggle were milions people went on the street and the dictatorship capitulating to the terms of the movement and civil rights were granted in the 29th6 amendmend. So while the angibo took people without warrant or proof, torture people and kill them on several occations. they didnt do it each and every time like op claimed. otherwise there would be milions of dead and one death would not cause this events.
Yes the angibo was shit but he doesnt realise that the movie is around the time the angibo like the whole country is allready changing. you will see the righous agend switch sides as soon he realise angibo is used against the opposition and not against nk.
Saying angibo have nothing to do with capturing nk spies is wrong. it is the National Intelligence Service (KCIA) till today. At that time besides acquire intelligence on NK and suppress SK activists it was haviliy involved in many other activities outsite of its sphere, like domestic politics and even promoting the 1988 summer olympics in seoul. to show individual somehow different than u would expect is totally fine.
3. Use of historical figures. The didnt use histirical figures. They even say at the beginning everything is ficitonal.
Kim Oak Boon. Using a similar name not even the same without show anything related to him as accusation the movie try to mock him has no solid ground for me.
Choi Jong Gil. At no time the show say Professor Han or any other character in the movie has to be choi jong gil.
Chun young cho. eun young ro. a totally different character, with different backround, in different situation, with different name. please stop its getting hillarious.
4. Dictator/president chun do hwan. was an ashole. he succeeded park chung hee. another ashole dictator/president. nevertheless korea voted her daughter park geun hye president from 2013-2017. chun do hwan was succeded by roh tae woo in june. he capitulated to the terms of the democratic movement in the june struggles. so he won the elections in februar 88 mainly because oposition wa split in several parties. but he stayed to his words and continued democratisation of korea in the following years. untill democratic party won election in the earlie 90s and condemned both for their crimes. when chun do hwan died. all 3 former living presidents were in prison. korean politics is all a mess. and now they use movies for their agenda and battlefield. Problem is the movie cant dissort history or try to mock historical figures because they didnt even try to show the in the first place. it is only a love story playing around that time but clearly after the worst attrocities against activists or inocent people happended.
5.To show nk spies are totally fine also. since this is an actual story that could happend at every era since both koreas were founded in the cold war till today.
thank you for the ability to discuss this stuff here. i really like history. please bring forward any more claims that may convince me the movie is a complott by someone to dissort history or whatever may the problem. but this guy isnt it. really not profunded at all.
concerning lol
