Posts by lahel

Quote from Whi

I swear you have to be trolling atp lol bc i refuse to believe someone’s seriously typing all this bull 😭

“.. why would we have 2 different words with the same meaning? hmmm?”

english is chock full of synonyms that are very similar in meaning but might differ in nuance or the context they should be used. Many words are just a more formal version of another, but they mean the same thing. News flash: “altercation” is one of them. No one says “i had an altercation with my sister today” in everyday life (or on a freaking forum), we just say “i had a fight with my sister” or even “i fought with my sister” to get the meaning across the fastest. So you arguing that 2 different words have to be different in meaning all the time isn’t the flex you think it is lol

But oh well at least with this we can finally get it out of the way, proven once and for all, that you’re the one arguing semantics first here but accused other people of doing it for some bizarre illiterate lacking-self-awareness reason

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oh wow.

i just exposed how confidently incorrect you were... and now u have to write a lengthy comment to justify ur failings?

and apparently, correcting you is "trolling" to you..somehow.

yes.. some English words have synonyms and they have similar meanings - very good. But they're usually from imported words not native to English.

and hey, i wasnt the one "flexing". i merely corrected her that an 'altercation" can mean something other than a fight - as in an argument or a disagreement. and what garam did was confront her verbally- and they had an altercation - a disagreement or an argument. but you used the word "fight" - or her rather cus a fight has a more violent connotation than say an "argument".

but oh well, yes. at least now we can finally get it out of the way that you have proven that your gf used semantics to make it seem Garam was partially responsible - by equating the word "Fight" for an "altercation"

GJ. WTG.. u .. slave to the truth.. u

Quote from Whi

lmao are you serious?? What do you think “altercation” means? And not you saying the other user is arguing semantics when it’s actually literally YOU who’s doing it lol what??

Some free education for you:

You’re not beating the illiterate allegations fr

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oh dear lord...

it can be SYNONYMOUS with the word FIGHT .. but IT MEANS, IF YOU EVER USE A DICTIONARY:

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right? cus .. why would we have 2 different words with the same meaning? hmmm?

* so it can mean.. something other than a "fight" . unless, in ur world every *loud public disagreement is a fight.

by going by ur badge, u're army? for the love of God, stop doing your best to bring more shame to ur fandom. Oh nm, u have LsF badges. .. that actually explains some of this

Quote from Whi

no, the insult implied by you is people are only interested in defending someone else if it’s their gf/bf and it can’t be for any other reason like clarifying stupid misunderstandings and pointing out the obvious truths easily observed by the naked eye.

And if you showed you actually had reading comprehension skills I wouldn’t have made such remarks but alas i’m a slave to speaking the truth

made no implication of the sort.

but i'm sorry you took it that way.

and LOL @ u being a slave to "speaking the truth"... good one.

Quote from aclassyteaparty

you do realize a verbal altercation is still a fight right?? and the inappropriate pictures i was talking about were the ones that causes knets to make sexual comments about her in the first place with the sex drawings behind her. i even said she was not at fault for either of these situations. but they still happened and people weren't going to shut up about them. stop trying to wage a semantics war against me. everyone got the point but you, boo, so who is the problem here?

and yang hyunsuk was literally on trial for paying off people so hanbin/b.i drug scandal wouldn't get out... like... are you really coming for me for saying people will always be unhappy with source regardless of what they do because we all know they're a bad company, and then defending YGE of all companies in the next breath? you're either a troll or a really un-self-aware hypocrite. quote me again on this and you're blocked. i tried to disengage and you still had to quote me again, multiple times, and for what? to say the same dumb shit no one agrees with 20 more times?

you do realize, you're the one who keeps responding, right? you do realize, a verbal altercation may NOT be a "fight", right? if anyone's waging a "semantics war" , it's YOU, hon.

and do keep up with the news sweety. Yg was proven innocent in court. Again, ZERO evidence.

Quote from Lulu_Key

but why are we talking about Garam when this is somu being petty to Gfriend?

idk. we were having a civil discussion when one person had issues with what happened with garam.

Quote from Whi

the fact that you can only come up with the insult that me defending another user bc their words were being horribly misconstrued by some bozo who can’t read equals to them obviously being my “gf” says all one needs to know about you and your logical capabilities and pitiful mindset lol

how was that an insult?

are u sayin it's an insult for you to be her bf.. or her ur gf???

you seem to be only one throwing out insults here.

Quote from Whi

boy you sure prove your reading comprehension is piss poor lol, from misunderstanding that user’s words to failing to see the direct connection between what i said and their point but alright you do you; good luck believing that sm or yg are so much better than source bc they decided to stick up for their idols out of the pureness of their heart and not bc their power and competence to withstand the scandals are much higher than source and allow them to get away with much more or anything

sorry ur gf's feelings were hurt.

tell her to do some actual research before spouting online , that way she wont get hurt

Quote from aclassyteaparty

im done engaging with people on this website that try to tell me "what i really meant" when i already said what i meant. i literally said i was on garam's side. i never said a bad thing about the girl during the whole situation and thought it was all bullocks until the end. but that doesn't change what OTHER people vocally think and still SAY about her. leave me alone and attack someone else!

and yg handling scandals "well" literally entails paying off the police

oh? u're on garam's side but she still "fought" and " had inappropriate pictures out online"?

with u on her side, who needs her haters. you'd willingly crucify her "by her side"

*also

more speculations and hearsay is the "truth" to you apparently. There are ZERO evidence for YG "payin off the police". it's just a rumor made up by YG anits. and Say what u will about YG, but they at least .. AT THE VERY LEAST STICK BY THEIR ARTISTS THROUGH THICK N THIN and take some responsibility for their artists, and dont throw them out for no reason in face of public scrutiny.

Quote from Whi

i’m not interested in your whole discourse with that other user about source music’s competence in pr/damage control, i was only correcting your misunderstanding of their words: the incriminating pictures they spoke of were of garam, not her friend.

You don’t get the point they were trying to make: being a celebrity/idol means upholding an image and profiting from it, so once the image gets ruined for whatever reason, the damage could be irreversible and the idol can no longer use their image as their money-making tool. In garam’s case, she wasn’t an instigator in the fight and she did it only to defend her friend, so morally speaking you could say she wasn’t in the wrong, but in the process of executing “justice” garam also got herself into a position where her image isn’t spotlessly clean anymore, bc she in fact did fight and there were plenty of nasty texts to prove it, and the illusion of a perfect angelic idol is shattered. In the public eye sometimes doing things for the “right reason” isn’t enough to override the shattered reputation that a celeb should’ve maintained to sell their product.

Which is what corporations take into account when making decisions: they don’t care if you’re “innocent”, they just care if you can sell their product anymore or not. This is not to defend their reasoning of course, it’s just a harsh reality of how ruthless it is in business. Some corporations might be able to salvage the celeb’s damaged reputation, some aren’t capable of it so they cut the celeb. The point is it doesn’t matter if you were right or wrong, and corporations don’t choose to defend you simply bc they believe in justice - they only do it if they think they can win the public’s favour again through whatever means. You could be a criminal for all they care. All of them are scum, make no mistake, even sm or jyp etc.

So that’s what the other user was arguing about source music’s line of thinking. You bringing up that garam was innocent so they had to legally / morally protect her is very naive bc that’s not how real life works lol

absolute gibberish and deflecting away from what that other person wrote - since that's the only reason you interjected.

nobody is interested in what you think how image and the entertainment are intertwined, and what you think an idol image should be - esp when it doesnt pertain to Garam - since that was never the image Source laid out for her.

Quote from Whi

gurlie it’s time to just stop this whole tirade lol it’s getting embarrassing.. that other user was saying that there are pictures OF GARAM online that paint her in a bad light (the text messages, the school documents etc) bc garam did engage in verbal attacks to the other girl. That user was NOT saying that garam released harassing pictures of her friend - garam literally defended her from the other girl and got into trouble for it lol, you’re just misunderstanding their words, hence the face palm

im sorry , idk any of you and i can think objectively and .... if u READ what she wrote ,

Quote from aclassyteaparty

also the truth of the situation was that garam still fought and still had inappropriate pictures out online. im not blaming her for the situation but she did get in trouble with school and her school records coming out is what solidified the scandal. im not sure why you're coming at me with this when i am clearly on her side. i think how she was treated was terrible. whether from sorce or anyone else. but again, NOTHING source would have done would have been deemed "good" or gotten them "kudos" from fans. im smart enough to see that.

she's says one thing but is clearly saying another -

she's clearly saying that some of the blame does go to Garam - that she "fought", "had pictures of her out online" - that her school records "solidified" the scandal" - and that there was NOTHING source could've done.

this is akin to " i'm not racist BUT ...." statement.

" I think it was terrible how Garam was treated and i'm on her side . BUT..."

she obviously has that impression that Garam has some responsibility in this matter and she somehow thinks Source couldnt have handled the situation better.

I'm sorry for thinking the an Agency that KNOWS the truth should stick by their artists who they're responsible for. Source did this to Garam when they knew in FULL that Garam was innocent of the whole matter, and just decided throw her out with the mess THEY CREATED - if Garam was not publicly exposed to the by Source/hybe as an Idol, she would've never gotten this attention . I can understand if GARAM WAS guilty - that if she was a bully , then this action is understandable. - but according to source, if youre a bully or a victim or an innocent bystander, it DOESNT MATTER to them. You will be treated the same if they think it'll make them WORK out of their comfort zone. they just cant be bothered by it.

What next? what if the public gets outraged by Sakura's past as a Japanese idol? or what if some stalker gets some dirt on Yunjin when she was a kid in america... or on Kazuha in the netherlands and spread it online?

apparently the girls are barely making even cus source overspends so much- so removing sakura, yunjin, kazuha, etc wont matter to them - it's all about the dollars and they cant be bothered to protect their investment - when they're rolling in hybe money.

according to this person, it's justifiable- that she's "smart enough" to see there is "NOTHING SOURCE" could do. rly tho? .. really?? was there really nothing source can do when they face some "rumors"?? somehow JYPE , YG, SM seem to handle it pretty well.. but apparently this person thinks there's nothing they could've done with garam when all they had to do was let the truth out and STAND BY THEIR ARTISTS- RATHER THAN RUINING THE LIFE AND DREAMS OF AN INNOCENT 16 YR OLD.

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That's why she facepalmed.... she wasn't accusing Garam of doing anything bad lol

oh rly?

she LITERALLY wrote that "the truth' was that Garam "still fought" and "still had inappropriate pictures out online"

that was the TRUTH to her. you're right. she's not no accusing. she's flat out saying Garam was in the wrong.

it's amazing pple still think it was Garam who released those inappropriate picturse online

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also the truth of the situation was that garam still fought and still had inappropriate pictures out online.

but since u facepalmed that last post.

enlighten me.

why do u still think garam "fought" and "had inappropriate pictures out online", when it pretty much proven that it was Yoo Yeon Soo, the girl who Garam confronted who posted those online.

Quote from aclassyteaparty

no, their first statement said they they heard garam's side and that SHE was the one that was bullied. and people got more upset at that statement. idk who you think you're trying to misrepresent history too lol. i was there. i read the statements. and i still think it was for the best she was removed from the group. nothing they would have done would have stopped the scale of harassment. thats just a fact. you can't sue all of korea.

. im not blaming her for the situation but she did get in trouble with school and her school records coming out is what solidified the scandal. im not sure why you're coming at me with this when i am clearly on her side. i think how she was treated was terrible. whether from sorce or anyone else. but again, NOTHING source would have done would have been deemed "good" or gotten them "kudos" from fans. im smart enough to see that.

you're referring to the first HYBE statement in april. im referring to FIRST SOURCE full statement made in May regarding her hiatus.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/05/source-music-releases-full-statement-regarding-le-sserafim-member-kim-garams-involvement-with-the-school-violence-countermeasures-committee-kim-garam-to-take-temporary-hiatus

I get the feeling HYBE did initially want to defend garam, but since Source were the ones that ultimately manages the girls, they over ruled HYBE. who knows - also the narrative and wording is completely different when it came from HYBE vs Source.

Quote from aclassyteaparty

also the truth of the situation was that garam still fought and still had inappropriate pictures out online

also, Garam didnt fight or release any inappropriate pictures of anyone. she CONFRONTED the girl who released online the inappropriate pictures of her friend.

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firstly they did try to defend garam, but netizens couldn't seem to accept that mistakes people made in middle school don't always reflect them currently. honestly removing her from lesserafim saved her from more harassment than keeping her in the group indefinitely would have. knets especially were never going to let go of the sexual stuff and would have continued sexually harassing a minor and then a young woman over the internet for her entire career.

actually, Source didnt "try to defend Garam".

They put out a statement that they'd investigate it, and even when they knew Garam was innocent, when push came to shove, they folded like a cheap suit and threw her away like they threw away Gfriend. They did this when they knew all the facts of the case.

Garam is STILL being harassed simply because Source didnt "try to defend" her at all.

and in what world is standing up for your friend in middle school a "mistake"???

Quote from neigl

Ah, its lsfm company.

OK, than better pray source learned from the gfriend debacle. Honestly it dont seem like they did.

Didnt they do the same to Garam allready? So please dont complain when in a few years your faves will receive the same treatment from source.

Right now, you pay source the money they use to harass viviz. If you think you have a valid reasons to support that, just keep going.

yeh... this is disturbing.

It does seem like LsF is mostly run by Source and NOT Hybe. I think the business model is that Hybe provides the resources to Pleidis, Source, Ador, Belift, etc but doesnt directly get involved with managing the groups.

And given Source's track record of how they've handled Glam, Gfriend and the Garam debacle, Source has only shown that they excel at being incompetent.

Hybe stans should really worry that Source is the one managing their so called "Label Girl Group". LsF gained attention because they were "under hybe" - Source didnt have anything to do with it - but if you look at Le Sserafim's content - Source is spending an EXORBITANT amount of money on the girls - more than all the rookie girls combined - they're showering the girls with luxury hotels, trips to jeju, making content after content that rents whole buildings, etc.

Source has spent more money on Le sserafim than Bighit has spent on BTS in 2022 - and i highly doubt the girls are making anywhere near BTS money. I could see why Source was 20 million in debt by the time HYBE bought them.

idk. maybe they do have Hitman bang's blessings to spend this much- who really knows - but even then it's a very bad business model - to spend more than what you make. it's basic math. And i do get WHY they're doing this - it's that old business gamble - to make more u have to spend more cliche - but that only works when and if you know what u're doing. Source has proven they don't - they never have. they have no experience in making a profit by spending.

it's not sustainable w/o bts money . and when things start to go south, we all know what Source does. they throw the members under the bus.

Quote from worlddome48

stupid list. I just found out Celine Dion wasnt on it just throw the list into garbage bin.

it really is.

ALL of these "lists" are someone or someones just listing their favs. it's always "200 best singers - according to us" sorta deal.

imo it's a crime to have JK ranked that low. John lennon isnt exactly a vocalist but he's ranked at 12, and in what world is peak Rhinana a better "singer" than peak Alicia keys???

they placed JK nearly dead last - it's almost like they threw in the most popular kpop artist to grab kpop fans attention only to throw mud on their face - "yeh i know u think kpop is good, but here's what we really think about them - not even in the top 190"

and these pple havent even listened to ANY Korean legends - or arabic, or japanese, chinese etc.

this list only pertains to what these editors were exposed to most of their lives - which is just UK/US pop.

the title is asinine and arrogant. but that's normal for English lists. it's mostly pop propaganda.

i WISH pple would stop taking these stupid lists seriously.

this was a class move by YG.

i doubt u'd get the same treatment from other agencies when the artists decide to leave other than JYPE.

highly doubtful..but wow they're young.

maybe because of the low birthrate in korea and japan that they mentally adopt these child idols as their own?

but then again.. in the west we have children celebrities who literally start as babies - Olsen twins, and literally every child "celebrity" at the disney channel starts around this age, so idk why im so surprised.

these practices in entertainment industries seems to be commonplace in every culture in every country.

* so i guess the real question is why are pple shocked when Kpop does it ..when literally every country has child celebrities?

1) current Queens on the Thone: These groups have already established themselves GLOBALLY with unprecedented popularity and will not be coming down no matter how much their antis want them to.

BlackPink , Twice, and still Girls Generation

2) Kpop Duchesses: Not as powerful or popular as the Queens but still have have a substantial global following

MamaMoo, Red Velvet, Itzy, and to a certain degree Apink and Oh my girl.

3) Kpop Princesses : the newer generation Groups who seem to be quickly gaining popularity and trying to establish themselves.

G-idle, Ive, LsF, Aespa, NewJeans, Nmixx, and to a certain degree Kep1er, Niziu and StayC

4 etc) Those who are trying to challenge the Royalty:

WekiMeki, Fromis9, Weekly.. and others i cant remember right at this moment.

Quote from Pinky_Peachy

what ikon songs got to number one other than love scenario? rhythm ta maybe?

Ikon's debut song "my type" and "apology"