Kinda understanding it if the leader really does zero for the group but as fans I doubt we would really see everything about him. A leader can be quiet and a good leader too. Maybe he pushing the other members forward to give them attention? This person really doesn’t like the leader at all saying how he isn’t good at anything.
Shinee actually said thats what make Onew the best leader
Instead of pushing himself to the front, he is supportive of all of them from behind.
I need specific examples of what this poster considers "pushing other members in front" because for a lot of leaders that's actually something they see as one of their jobs. There are numerous leaders who make sure their members all get a chance to do something like answer a question in an interview or say thank you in an acceptance speech.
I think a lot of times leaders tend to only lead in strict professional settings like dance practice or rehearsal, but let the other members dote on them in other settings (especially when they aren't the oldest member). Because we don't get to see a ton of footage of meetings and practice sessions we kind of miss a lot of what some leaders are doing.
Just because you don't see it on camera, doesn't mean they aren't doing their duty as leader.
Same with Soobin. He is actually not as shy as the original post described the leader, but sometimes you see him just sit back and watch the chaos unfold when the others having fun.
↳[+19][-2] This seems like S-Coups
Also just because S.Coups is fine letting Seventeen run around like hyped up 5 year olds doesn't make him a bad leader. He picks his battles. He spends his time sitting in meetings about the group with Pledis so he can be in the loop on what's happening. He fights for Seventeen in a way that a lot of leaders will never have to fight for their group.
Also just because S.Coups is fine letting Seventeen run around like hyped up 5 year olds doesn't make him a bad leader. He picks his battles. He spends his time sitting in meetings about the group with Pledis so he can be in the loop on what's happening. He fights for Seventeen in a way that a lot of leaders will never have to fight for their group.
No, I don't think that's what the person was saying. They were replying to that one commenter who was describing their good leader who was an introvert - they said that their description seems like Coups, not the OP of the thread's description.
Teen Top's C.A.P if I remember correctly. I don't know from where should I take the information but if you search his name and misogyny or daughter it should come up
Teen Top's C.A.P if I remember correctly. I don't know from where should I take the information but if you search his name and misogyny or daughter it should come up
I hope he changed in the past 10 years since I looked it up and it seems he said that stupid nonsense at 18, ten years ago. Hope he grew up, realized his mistakes, and sought out to change and learn.
I hope he changed in the past 10 years since I looked it up and it seems he said that stupid nonsense at 18, ten years ago. Hope he grew up, realized his mistakes, and sought out to change and learn.
For the sake of the women around him, he really should've. However, in my personal experience this kind of thoughts are difficult to change
I think it's about RM and the War of Hormone controversy
If you don't know, War of Hormone (a BTS song) has been called out for it's misogynistic lyrics. BTS and Bighit apologized and have been releasing feminist anthems ever since. Now Rm is more careful and checks his lyrics with women's studies specialists. I'm sure commenter 7 doesn't know that or doesn't care. Seeing as they are only using it to bring down RM and bringing it up in a post that has nothing to do with that conversation. Performative activism at it's finest
This seems more for Suju
For the sake of the women around him, he really should've. However, in my personal experience this kind of thoughts are difficult to change
I read up about it and he received a lot of backlash for the situation. Sometimes, in some rare and amazing cases, said backlash causes people to look deep inside them and not like what they see and try to become better people.
Yeah, I'll be positive and think like you, because this kinds of thoughts should get erased from earth for good
Yeah, I'll be positive and think like you, because this kinds of thoughts should get erased from earth for good
I try to be positive and sometimes I do not end up disappointed
Edit: I read Pinky's explanation later (thankfully it was only a reply to a positive post), but anyway, here's my previous answer:
↳[+19][-2] This seems like S-Coups
This person know nothing about him fr...
He does everything he can to be a good leader.
And a leader doesn't really need to be the most outspoken member to be a good one, just saying. There are many criteria depending of how the group works. imo Cheol is a good leader.
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