Spring Day and Cheer Up are the only “national hits” from 3rd gen

bwl is still there. lol

Not this again

Move Over National Hit, Here comes Really Really Top Big Hit Song based on Korean data and metrics - The K-Lounge - allkpop forums

lol

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I’ll give that thread a B - for the effort

excellent passing grade

@keaji we got a B- on our paper....

National hit is so finicky, the discussion is kinda boring at this point.

what about love scenario? idk about the numbers but it really had impact like even children knew about the song like!!!!

National Hits are the top 10-20 songs each year. Why does "national hit" mean only like one song per year? If your song is one of the top 10-20 songs of the year, that means you're in the top 99.99% percentile. Why WOULDNT you be considered a national hit? lol.

This is getting boring

bboom bboom

red flavour

d4

love scenario

???

Love Scenario definitely should be up there I guess

but this topic is getting boring tho

I would maybe put Love scenario in there to finish the 3.

btw national impact be like president moon using cheer up to make his campaign song

This makes no sense. Aiiyl,red flavor, dtna all spent 60+ weeks on melon top100 so why aren't they national hits according to your criteria? They stayed on the chart more than a year too.

you are right

But let's kpop fans deluded themselves thinking their faves songs are national hits

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This makes no sense. Aiiyl,red flavor, dtna all spent 60+ weeks on melon top100 so why aren't they national hits according to your criteria? They stayed on the chart more than a year too.

He listed songs with 70 weeks+ that are still charting and will cross 80, 90, even 100 weeks

60 weeks+ doesn't look quite as big as that

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He listed songs with 70 weeks+ that are still charting and will cross 80, 90, even 100 weeks

60 weeks+ doesn't look quite as big as that

They included cheer up which was 68 weeks inside top100. Red flavor and aiiyl charted just 3-4 weeks less. The difference isn't that much. If they only included spring day and bwl i could understand their point.

National hit= The songs which region forever.. not fade away after 1 year. Your big mouth will lie & vomit but charts will not.

May be this answer should be enough for those who are saying "X song is not here?!", " Y song is not here"?!

Honey, find those X, Y songs on charts then come.

Spring Day is that song which is being requested by Kdrama Maker on "Sysyphus: the myth". Even after 4 years!! It is the royalty of National hit.

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National hit= The songs which region forever.. not fade away after 1 year. Your big mouth will lie & vomit but charts will not.

May be this answer should be enough for those who are saying "X song is not here?!", " Y song is not here"?!

Honey, find those X, Y songs on charts then come.

Spring Day is that song which is being requested by Kdrama Maker on "Sysyphus: the myth". Even after 4 years!! It is the royalty of National hit.

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BB and DDDD didn’t even surpass 50 weeks. That’s nowhere near close to the songs I listed here

well if youre gonna look at longevoty where's aiiyl

y'all stop wasting ur time on a troll

you speak a lot of sense but the usual suspects will never listen bc they've already made up their minds

I do think the new chart reform will make longevity easier for bigger hits, so we might end up with top songs regularly charting for 2+ years ("blueming" charting at #14 after 15 months is pretty crazy). soon charting in top 50 for a full year will be seen as just expected for hits and not as rare/impressive anymore.

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BWL (eventually)

It's at 96 weeks right now, but I already consider it one since it's been in the top 50 for 95 out of 96 weeks.

She doesn't get enough credit.

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National Hits are the top 10-20 songs each year.

Yeah, that's a no. That means ON qualified last year and it has nowhere near the longevity necessary.

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It's at 96 weeks right now, but I already consider it one since it's been in the top 50 for 95 out of 96 weeks.

She doesn't get enough credit.

I mean it is the highest charting group song on Melon year end chart for 2019 & 2020 and one of the songs in top 10 of gallups for two consecutive years.

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I mean it is the highest charting group song on Melon year end chart for 2019 & 2020 and one of the songs in top 10 of gallups for two consecutive years.

Exactly, and it's 4 weeks away from hitting 1.6 billion points.

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My bad, I only checked numbers for CU but yeah, BWL is up there too

Thank you, I appreciate it when BWL doesn't get ignored. For some reason, people don't mention it when they talk about 2019 mega-hits.

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"Boy With Luv" has surpassed 5.5 million unique listeners on Melon, becoming the first song from 2019 and BTS 's second song after 'Spring Day' (6.8M) to achieve this

twitter.com/charts_k/status/1351397432660258818

Does anyone know how this compares to other big hits? I could find that Love Scenario had 5.4 and D4 5.3 at latest updates.
BWL has already passed them even if it was released a year later.

myaza

Jan 19th 2021

wtf is a national hit? an annoying song that's popular?

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Yeah, that's a no. That means ON qualified last year and it has nowhere near the longevity necessary.

True, top 20 is just a beginning qualifier. You need at least 750M Gaon points for 2020 songs and 900M Gaon points for 2018-2019 songs to be in serious discussion.

Not yall acting like 3rd gen had no hit songs

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Quick example:

Psycho and Changmo’s Meteor came out around the same time.

Psycho is out of melon’s top 100 (months ago) whereas Meteor is currently #27 on the daily chart

Why would Psycho be considered a national hit when there’s another song out there doing waaaaay better in terms of longevity?

Idol “national hits” digital performance is actually not that impressive when you see the bigger picture

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Yeah but nobody cares about Changmo, literally nobody knows who he is. I think he even complained about it publicly after being snubbed for some award.

Everyone in Korea knows who Red Velvet are, even my 73 year old mother knows them lol.

When and if Psycho hits 900M Gaon points we can talk about national hit status. Same with Changmo. For songs that came out after Covid like Dynamite, Eight, HYLT, LSG, etc we can talk about them when they hit about 750M Gaon points.

AAIYL charted in 3 years. And people still say it is not national hit.

I find it funny people trying hard to define 'national hit' when they dont live in korea. All the metrics they come up with, are either biased or not representive.

Cheer up had a good peak and was the breakthrough song. But doesnt mean songs like AIIYL which didnt hit #1 wasnt doing as well. You have to look at the relative competition as at that time.