If iKON didn't have a scandal and was properly managed by YG, how big do you think they are now?

better than now ig

I'm not sure about challenging BTS but I do feel like they could've been at least close to the other top groups now with better management.

yeah "if" they didn't have any scandals, they might have 57 daesang now, having 20B+ streams to date, have million fans around the globe, inspiring young to old people even eldery around the world with their music, being SK pride.. yeah.. IF

I am not downplaying Ikon, I liked Ikon, and listen to them casually,
but this "IF" is really ridiculous..

like.. If I was born in Jeon family in South Korea back then in 1997, I will be Jeon Jungkook by now.

I think the break after their massive debut hurt them more then any scandal.

better than now obv

Does SM manage any group properly? Just a bad company overall. Especially to GGs, but not just GGs.

They'd be on about Winner's level

Good enough to get by and still an upper tier group, but not constantly smashing records or trending.

No, I don't think they would've challenged BTS.

Anyways, past is past, so, let it be.

Well one of B.I's bside is suddenly climbing up melon daily charts.. in around 2 days it climbed more than 500 places.. anyone knows whats going on?

Who knows?

With big push and everything going right, a kpop group has a chance to become as big as Blackpink at best (in terms of success & popularity).

I think if yg didnt cause problems by having the survival shows then they would have been better. Winner fans and ikon fans hated eachother. Also the group seemed like bobby and bi with friends.

Also adding chanwoo was dumb, he was a waste of space.

who knows???after ls, killing me didn't do that well but i remember goodbye road was really close to a PAK(it had a music show all kill), i'm ok didn't do that well either, i was an ikonic back then so i remember this very clearly

while it's also true that the scandal really hit ikon hard, i mean i unstanned them right after, bi still has a lot of i-fan support so idk how it'll turn out, nobody knows. but i probably would have kept stanning ikon if they didn't have that scandal, and so will many others. yg probably managed the situation as well as it could, it was bad on it's own and there was nothing much they could have done, i still can't forgive BI for lying in his original statement on ig when he said he was gna be leaving the group, and i just feel bad for the other members. i still support and feel smt for the ikon so i just hope that kingdom was good for them at least

hindsight is 20/20

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oh my? which b side?

Remember me. It's jumping like 50 spots everyday. Already top200 on melon.