Who cares about kpop 2nd gen when the Jackson 5 and the Supremes obviously paved the way.
I thought at first you were talking about that one boygroup.
Where's the AKP old people's home section - I can't see it
you whippersnappers need to make it more clear on where it is 
Who cares about kpop 2nd gen when the Jackson 5 and the Supremes obviously paved the way.
true and before that beethoven
true and before that beethoven
Nah, he was a solo act.
Nah, he was a solo act.
Tell that the orchestra 
They don't need section, what they need is to move on
They don't need section, they need to move on
True but we all know this won’t happen in this decade or century
Which 2nd gen group/solo is even bigger than these 2 groups? Some groups were/are, maybe, bigger than BP in SoKor during their era but I don’t think any group from 2nd gen was/is bigger than them internationally. Having said that, only delusional stans would say certain groups from 2nd gen were/are bigger than BTS, be it locally or internationally. They can believe whatever they want, but impact and numbers don’t lie. 
Which 2nd gen group/solo is even bigger than these 2 groups? Some groups were/are, maybe, bigger than BP in SoKor during their era but I don’t think any group from 2nd gen was/is bigger than them internationally. Having said that, only delusional stans would say certain groups from 2nd gen were/are bigger than BTS, be it locally or internationally. They can believe whatever they want, but impact and numbers don’t lie.
Exactly no one is denying their success but when you compare it, the 3rd gen would obviously win. Also funny how a lot of 2nd gen hardcore stans still think international stans and western validation are useless. I am a kpop stan since 2nd gen and I do not understand these people.
Why don’t we just take all those old gen stans ,who are obviously stuck in the past and can’t understand that the times are changing, and put them into an Allkpop forum’s old people‘s home section so that they can discuss why BTS or Blackpink will never be bigger than anyone else and why the 2nd gen is the best and everyone is wrong until the end of time.
*obviously a joke*
Victorian brass band oppas paved the way 
Why don’t we just take all those old gen stans ,who are obviously stuck in the past and can’t understand that the times are changing, and put them into an Allkpop forum’s old people‘s home section so that they can discuss why BTS or Blackpink will never be bigger than anyone else and why the 2nd gen is the best and everyone is wrong until the end of time.
*obviously a joke*
Don't mind me over here being lowkey excited I am a 1st gen stan who also loves/stans newer groups.
No but seriously older stans can love older groups without being toxic and new stans can love new groups without being toxic too. 
I do not understand the generation wars.
Are I'm the only one who don't care about Generation at all for me Kpop is Kpop it doesn't matter from what year the group or the song come from 
Are I'm the only one who don't care about Generation at all for me Kpop is Kpop it doesn't matter from what year the group or the song come from
Are I'm the only one who don't care about Generation at all for me Kpop is Kpop it doesn't matter from what year the group or the song come from
Same. There are so many groups that come and go all the time. I can understand the concept and its purpose, I just think people focus way too much on it.
Are I'm the only one who don't care about Generation at all for me Kpop is Kpop it doesn't matter from what year the group or the song come from
I literally don’t get the whole concept of gens. It is also like saying all these old groups are automatically over once their gen ended which is not true.
I literally don’t get the whole concept of gens. It is also like saying all these old groups are automatically over once their gen ended which is not true.
This is really something only Kpop have. Or did someone say Eminem is from the 2nd Gen of Hiphop and Dr Dre is from 1st Gen of HipHop
Why don't we support some new 4th gen groups?
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To stay on topic that's not bad idea!
There used to be a thread dedicated for old people. Unfortunately, most have departed.
This is really something only Kpop have. Or did someone say Eminem is from the 2nd Gen of Hiphop and Dr Dre is from 1st Gen of HipHop
If anyone said this to the rappers I worked with, they would have laughed you out of the building. Most of the nice rappers were the older ones and the young ones tend to be not so nice (There were exceptions to the rule on both sides). So, saying they should have retired because they were past their "era" was funny and quite insulting to them. I can imagine it is insulting when people say that to Rain and Lee Hyori too.
People need to accept that 2nd gen paved the way 
If anyone said this to the rappers I worked with, they would have laughed you out of the building. Most of the nice rappers were the older ones and the young ones tend to be not so nice (There were exceptions to the rule on both sides). So, saying they should have retired because they were past their "era" was funny and quite insulting to them. I can imagine it is insulting when people say that to Rain and Lee Hyori too.
Yep, in other genres, generations don't make sense; waves or trends would be more appropriate.
Take Metallica, they're still the biggest metal act in the world and they've been around for 40 years. Doesn't mean there has been no popular new bands and genres since then.
Yep, in other genres, generations don't make sense; waves or trends would be more appropriate.
Take Metallica, they're still the biggest metal act in the world and they've been around for 40 years. Doesn't mean there has been no popular new bands and genres since then.
Yesss amazing example, I have loved Metalica for a long time I have an original print of Garage Inc that I found at an garage sale in a spin of sure luck a few years back.
To be honest, If someone walked up to them and said they were past their era. They would laugh in their face and have them removed from their shows.
People need to accept that 2nd gen paved the way
And you need to understand that no one in this world except some weird kpop stans thinks in generations that are literally 5-7 years long. 5 years are nothing in the music industry
People need to accept that 2nd gen paved the way
Bruh, I love 2nd gen and understand they paved the way for like Japan further after BoA but otherwise 3rd gen truly revolutionized the west movement. Part of me would love to pretend the 1st two gens are the reason that these groups are where they are and they owe them everything, but I cannot discredit the 3rd gen because of how much more they blew up K-pop. You cannot deny the 3rd gen truly monopolized the world by taking the foundation from the second gen and improving on it.
And you need to understand that no one in this world except some weird kpop stans thinks in generations that are literally 5-7 years long. 5 years are nothing in the music industry
But 2nd gen still paved the way
Yesss amazing example, I have loved Metalica for a long time I have an original print of Garage Inc that I found at an garage sale in a spin of sure luck a few years back.
To be honest, If someone walked up to them and said they were past their era. They would laugh in their face and have them removed from their shows.
If I have the opportunity to walk up to Metallica, I'd make a snarky comment about Lars and his drumming and he'd slap me with wads of money.
*truth is I'd probably be too starstruck to say anything coherent
If I have the opportunity to walk up to Metallica, I'd make a snarky comment about Lars and his drumming and he'd slap me with wads of money.
*truth is I'd probably be too starstruck to say anything coherent
*disclaimer: this is an reenactment not actual footage of the event*
perhaps
The thing is for 2nd gen fans is that they don't want newer gen fans to keep discrediting their 2nd gen fave's achievements.
Yeah, newer gen groups achieved much bigger & better things than 2nd gen groups but please don't make it seem that 2nd gen groups did nothing for kpop as a whole.
Why don’t we just take all those old gen stans ,who are obviously stuck in the past and can’t understand that the times are changing, and put them into an Allkpop forum’s old people‘s home section so that they can discuss why BTS or Blackpink will never be bigger than anyone else and why the 2nd gen is the best and everyone is wrong until the end of time.
*obviously a joke*
Ehh, I just like older groups in general because I think the music is better.
If I cared about achievements I would join the rest of the success stans.
This is really something only Kpop have. Or did someone say Eminem is from the 2nd Gen of Hiphop and Dr Dre is from 1st Gen of HipHop
I'm not so sure.
When it comes to generations, people talk about 'millennials', 'Generation X', 'boomers', 'Gen Z' and those are clearly generations.
And this concept of separate eras, whether you call it 'generation' or something else, is something that you see in history, like when there was a Golden Age or the Restoration, and you see it in culture and music too, where you have hippies, punk, grunge, New jack swing etc etc.
Doesn't mean that outside those time periods you won't encounter music like that anymore, but there are times where those trends and groups upholding it dominated the scene.
In K-pop, the term 'generation' has grown to be used to indicate when groups that debuted within a certain timeperiod dominated the K-pop scene.
And the reason why it appears to be 5-10 years, is due to K-pop contracts that were/are 7-10 years.
Of course, the whole use of 'generations' in K-pop is sort of a grown, collective consensus. But the same applies to how generations and eras in history, cultural history and popular opinion become defined.
click bait i thought it was the group lol
I thought that you meant the boy group Why Don't We at first.
Display MoreI'm not so sure.
When it comes to generations, people talk about 'millennials', 'Generation X', 'boomers', 'Gen Z' and those are clearly generations.
And this concept of separate eras, whether you call it 'generation' or something else, is something that you see in history, like when there was a Golden Age or the Restoration, and you see it in culture and music too, where you have hippies, punk, grunge, New jack swing etc etc.
Doesn't mean that outside those time periods you won't encounter music like that anymore, but there are times where those trends and groups upholding it dominated the scene.
In K-pop, the term 'generation' has grown to be used to indicate when groups that debuted within a certain timeperiod dominated the K-pop scene.
And the reason why it appears to be 5-10 years, is due to K-pop contracts that were/are 7-10 years.
Of course, the whole use of 'generations' in K-pop is sort of a grown, collective consensus. But the same applies to how generations and eras in history, cultural history and popular opinion become defined.
Hmmm True I don't thought about this 
Ehh, I just like older groups in general because I think the music is better.
If I cared about achievements I would join the rest of the success stans.
in the end the only thing that matters is your personal preference.
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