I have the feeling that everyone’s album sales went up drastically in the last 2 years.
Are album sales increasing drastically the last 2 years ?
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I've noticed that as well 🤔
1 mil was the cap a couple years ago, and now some groups are selling 2 million plus 😳
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yeah, more and more international fandoms to pull from and i can't prove it but i think physical competition has really ramped up
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Yes and it's a good thing
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Yes, it's been increasing like crazy since early 2019.
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I've noticed that as well 🤔
1 mil was the cap a couple years ago, and now some groups are selling 2 million plus 😳
Yes... selling 1m doesn’t seem as impossible as it once was.
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Tru tru
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Chinese bars paved the way lol...
No for real, fans collecting and being more organized is paying off. I hope it stays like this even after the pandemic.
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wait what? i'm confusing.
Isn't chinese fans bulk/buying group order has always been a thing. Bars competing against other groups, or individual bars compete against other members were always a thing.
What make 2019 IU vs Mamamoo so special. 2020 especially has been a huge year for physical sales overall though.
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Actually BP hit 16m during KTL, if i am not wrong
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Everything has gone up, physicals and digitals.
2020 before MOTS7, I think BTS was only at like 7-8million listeners on Spotify, and BP was at like 3-4
Now, theres like 7-8 groups who can reach those numbers
Korean digitals haven't improved, they went down in 2019 and 2020.
Like max 6 hits from each year, where in in 2015-2018 there were easily more than 10.
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Actually BP hit 16m during KTL, if i am not wrong
Yeah probably
Nowadays they're at 14M but I think this year they might crack the 40M monthly listeners list
I think bts might crack 45M-possibly 50M
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Korean digitals haven't improved, they've went down in 2019 and 2020.
Like max 6 hits from each year, where in in 2015-2018 there were easily more than 10.
I think 2019 was brutal for kpop acts besides bts
2020 picked up in some form & 2021 is back to form since the top 10 of melon right now is packed with kpop groups mostly GG but it was always them & bts anyways
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2019 fucking sucked for Kpop in Korea. Soloists dominated that year.
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yes, kpop album sales are much higher now than before.
https://www.prnewswire.com/new…gh-in-2020-301270515.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/t…ales-stay-strong-in-2020/
also, bloated claims about the importance of china are fake, like most chinese statistics.
taiwan and SEA each contribute about as much china.
japan is actually the most important foreign country for kpop.
us is becoming increasingly important, especially with direct distribution now by major retailers there.
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us is becoming increasingly important, especially with direct distribution now by major retailers there.
I want people to recognize this, charting in BB200 means there is a decent amount of physical consumption of Kpop here.
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I want people to recognize this, charting in BB200 means there is a decent amount of physical consumption of Kpop here.
How much pure sales do u expect from bts & bp album this year?
Assuming both groups release albums in traditional 4 versions
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yes, kpop album sales are much higher now than before.
https://www.prnewswire.com/new…gh-in-2020-301270515.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/t…ales-stay-strong-in-2020/
also, bloated claims about the importance of china are fake, like most chinese statistics.
taiwan and SEA each contribute about as much china.
japan is actually the most important foreign country for kpop.
us is becoming increasingly important, especially with direct distribution now by major retailers there.
3rd gen selling more physicals than their predecessors in the streaming era. what a time to be alive.
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BTS - 5.5M
BP - 2
Lol should have specified in the US
But yes I can totally see that exact scenario happening
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Lol should have specified in the US
But yes I can totally see that exact scenario happening
US?
BTS - 1M
BP - 350k
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wait what? i'm confusing.
Isn't chinese fans bulk/buying group order has always been a thing. Bars competing against other groups, or individual bars compete against other members were always a thing.
What make 2019 IU vs Mamamoo so special. 2020 especially has been a huge year for physical sales overall though.
bulk buying has always been a thing, but it ramped up new heights in 2019 bc of the popularity of, like i’ve already mentioned, hotel de luna and queendom in china. The impact of those 2 shows in increasing chinese fans of those 2 acts was quite visible to track
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kpop has been steady with album sales from 2011 to 2016 with around 10-12m sales a year.
From 2017, the album sales went upto 16m and have been increasing ever since then. Like 24m each in 2018 & 2019. And 40m in 2020.
There are two reasons why the increase from 2019 to 2020 looks too big.
1. In 2019 BTS released only 1 album, a mini album and they sold around 4m with that one. Normally BTS release aeast 2 albums a year so them releasing only 1 album decreased the overall number by around 4m.
2. Pandemic happened. So people can't go to the concerts or fan meetings. Companies started doing online fan meetings which meant that fans from all around the world can meet their faves now unlike in offline fan meetings where only the regional people can meet their faves. That's why everyone started bulk buying as they now get a chance to meet their faves which was only possible for let's say 10% people in the fandom before so only they were bulk buying.
I don't expect companies to stop doing these online fan meetings from now onwards because they are the main reason why all the groups are selling as much as they are now. That's why I don't think sales will go down after the pandemic but they will definitely stagnate or increase slowly (unlike now) as soon as touring starts.
Edit : In conclusion, kpop physicals started growing from 2017 when kpop expansion outside Asia started and ARMYs outside Asia demanded distributions in their own countries. They were steadily growing over last 4 years but sky rocketed with the pandemic because of online fan meetings and no touring.
I think this year kpop can sell around 50m albums if not more which is a huge number.
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kpop has been steady with album sales from 2011 to 2016 with around 10-12m sales a year.
From 2017, the album sales went upto 16m and have been increasing ever since then. Like 24m each in 2018 & 2019. And 40m in 2020.
There are two reasons why the increase from 2019 to 2020 looks too big.
1. In 2019 BTS released only 1 album, a mini album and they sold around 4m with that one. Normally BTS release aeast 2 albums a year so them releasing only 1 album decreased the overall number by around 4m.
2. Pandemic happened. So people can't go to the concerts or fan meetings. Companies started doing online fan meetings which meant that fans from all around the world can meet their faves now unlike in offline fan meetings where only the regional people can meet their faves. That's why everyone started bulk buying as they now get a chance to meet their faves which was only possible for let's say 10% people in the fandom before so only they were bulk buying.
I don't expect companies to stop doing these online fan meetings from now onwards because they are the main reason why all the groups are selling as much as they are now. That's why I don't think sales will go down after the pandemic but they will definitely stagnate or increase slowly (unlike now) as soon as touring starts.
Edit : In conclusion, kpop physicals started growing from 2017 when kpop expansion outside Asia started and ARMYs outside Asia demanded distributions in their own countries. They were steadily growing over last 4 years but sky rocketed with the pandemic because of online fan meetings and no touring.
I think this year kpop can sell around 50m albums if not more which is a huge number.
tru tru
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yup
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Yeah but that included streams
But then again 1M pure sales within 5 months or so is definitely something bts can do
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I think it's mainly due to the change of the world? the pandemic,lack of groups in the west, globalization, etc opened a new market for kpop groups. I saw myself starting to buy many albums and spending money in kpop merch like never before because quarantine really changed everything
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Yes! I've noticed this since 2018 which is great in this streaming era
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They definitely are, for most groups.
Feels like album sales have been doubled to tripled compared with the album sales in 2019.
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bulk buying has always been a thing, but it ramped up new heights in 2019 bc of the popularity of, like i’ve already mentioned, hotel de luna and queendom in china. The impact of those 2 shows in increasing chinese fans of those 2 acts was quite visible to track
yes i heard that those 2 grew a lot but why are they the one credit for the increase of chinese sales to idol groups overall?
iu is a soloist who got bigger due to her drama, and mamamoo is mamamoo. that's the confusing part i was talking about. any kpop groups with decent fan base in china always had chinese fan bulkbuy/group order because it save on shipping and some don't even ship back. if anything i believe the pandemic had a bigger hand in raising physical sales overall because people stay home so they have more disposable income. AND kpop is rising in popularity everyday.
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I'm glad to see it, at least most if not all groups are earning something that way
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