Why Do Western Forums Hate BTS?
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Best to let it just wash over you. They’re just jealous and threatened.
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1. they're racist
2. they're threatened by the fact that armys are organized enough to pull off things their own fandoms could only dream of
3. they're threatened that bts can and will out chart their favs if they cb at the same time
4. they're prejudice against kpop stans bc "kpop stans toxic" even though they know western stans are just as bad
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Xenophobia and racism
Asian countries have always been ignored expect Japan because it was always a huge market
Now with globalisation, asian markets can't be ignored anymore
Status quo has been changed. Asian acts have been rising and dominating
Now BTS become number one artist in world
And moreover asian groups are talented and trained performers than most generic stars they stan
So they can't digest it. And their true selves come out.
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oh ATRL?!
I enter that site to collect these stans tears
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1. they're racist
2. they're threatened by the fact that armys are organized enough to pull off things their own fandoms could only dream of
3. they're threatened that bts can and will out chart their favs if they cb at the same time
4. they're prejudice against kpop stans bc "kpop stans toxic" even though they know western stans are just as bad
Oooooooh keep pouring that evening tea for me sis
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xenophobia and racism, add "they look like girls" argument too. "those girls" beating their faves
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Jealous of their success and fame and legacy, that not only are they amazingly talented artists, with great music and great sales, they are also role models and lots of western artists barely fit in one of those things.
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1. they're racist
2. they're threatened by the fact that armys are organized enough to pull off things their own fandoms could only dream of
3. they're threatened that bts can and will out chart their favs if they cb at the same time
4. they're prejudice against kpop stans bc "kpop stans toxic" even though they know western stans are just as bad
Didn't know they were racist damn.
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- general hatred of pop music in any form
- general hatred of boy bands
- general hatred of artists who seen as "commercial" or "manufactured"
- general xenophobia
You said everything lol
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They keep hating, while BTS keep winning 7639C939-53E1-433C-A6E6-26328323EF36.jpeg
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They're a boygroup.
And with boygroups the logic tends to be this:
1. Only girls like boygroups.
2. The opinion of girls is irrelevant.
3. To be a good artist you must have a sizable male fan base since a female's judgement is far too clouded by hormones and emotions to be worth considering.
4. If the boygroup happens to have male fans as well, refer back to point 1 and start over.
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xenophobia and racism, add "they look like girls" argument too. "those girls" beating their faves
oh damn I knew I was forgetting one. general homophobia and general fragile masculinity.
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- general hatred of artists who seen as "commercial" or "manufactured"
like their faves aren't lol. they are, they are just made to look different, authentic. commercial =/= bad music, their faves' music is commercial too but they are quality unlike "those"
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It's only western pop forums, because music for them is a competition and BTS are winning.
In the music community I'm part of BTS and k-pop in general is as respected or more respected than most western pop (with the exception of artists like Charli XCX and Taylor Swift who are total favourites).
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Didn't know they were racist damn.
are you kidding? lol. u.s female pop acts have fandoms full to the brim of white gay men and they are some of the most racist individuals on the planet next to white straight men. not to mention people in general are more likely to unleash the full extent of their racist ideologies in online spaces and against people who arent american because it makes them feel better.
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It’s alot of kpop stans over there as well.
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ATRL is the Western equivalent of edgy girl group stan twitter. They don't like anyone who is not a white female pop diva (except Rihanna). A lot of those users are also gay men with severe internalized homophobia, so seeing BTS be successful while bucking the Western standards of masculinity puts them off.
It's not just BTS; ATRL gives a lot of popular black artists a hard time.
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ATRL is the Western equivalent of edgy girl group stan twitter. They don't like anyone who is not a white female pop diva (except Rihanna). A lot of those users are also gay men with severe internalized homophobia, so seeing BTS be successful while bucking the Western standards of masculinity puts them off.
It's not just BTS; ATRL gives a lot of popular black artists a hard time.
I'm not over there often but they fuck with Nicki and Beyonce a LOT from what I've seen.
For them it's: Lana, Selena, Dua, Ari, Olivia, Billie, Demi, Camila, Taylor, etc.
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WHat is atrl ?
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I'm not over there often but they fuck with Nicki and Beyonce a LOT from what I've seen. For them it's: Lana, Selena, Dua, Ari, Olivia, Billie, Demi, Camila, Taylor, etc.
I dunno, Beyonce gets shaded a lot on ATRL for being "local" (aka mainly popular in the U.S.) and not having any recent solo hits. There was a pretty long thread the other day shading her streaming numbers. I'd say she's a polarizing figure there. A lot of Europeans don't seem to like her very much.
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I dunno, Beyonce gets shaded a lot on ATRL for being "local" (aka mainly popular in the U.S.)
Utter clowns.
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ok just checked ATRL and the main page looks fine, idk how they coded their site but its garbage
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They're a boygroup.
And with boygroups the logic tends to be this:
1. Only girls like boygroups.
2. The opinion of girls is irrelevant.
3. To be a good artist you must have a sizable male fan base since a female's judgement is far too clouded by hormones and emotions to be worth considering.
4. If the boygroup happens to have male fans as well, refer back to point 1 and start over.
Basically this. Ppl really hate boy-groups cause apparently having girls and women as fans somehow isn't respectful. Plus since it's a boy group with make up there is also "they look like girls". And the fact that "girls" with female fanbase smashes it hard in west industry is a hard pill to swallow.
We can also add stuff like "they all look the same", "they're gay", "they lip-sink" but the above is essential.
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I dunno, Beyonce gets shaded a lot on ATRL for being "local" (aka mainly popular in the U.S.) and not having any recent solo hits. There was a pretty long thread the other day shading her streaming numbers. I'd say she's a polarizing figure there. A lot of Europeans don't seem to like her very much.
I meant they don't fuck with Nicki or Bey, I didn't word that right.
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Basically this. Ppl really hate boy-groups cause apparently having girls and women as fans somehow isn't respectful. Plus since it's a boy group with make up there is also "they look like girls". And the fact that "girls" with female fanbase smashes it hard in west industry is a hard pill to swallow.
We can also add stuff like "they all look the same", "they're gay", "they lip-sink" but the above is essential.
As if a bunch of those users aren't gay as fuck either. internalized homophobia is a bitch
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One of the users even went on to say that Butter's sales were irrelevant and did not show its popularity.
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Western forums only like artists that fit their ideal of what a pop star should be. I really wouldn’t take it to heart.
Who’s the guy in your sig ?
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Who’s the guy in your sig ?
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I failed as an army
No wonder he looked good
He always looks good . Don’t worry I won’t hold it against you
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what is even atrl
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This is the first I'm hearing of this site so I went to check it out. Man, I've never seen people more salty than this
And a suspicious number of the ones I saw happened to be kpop Stans themselves!??!? Of course it was the usual bs argument of we hate army not bts.
Don't mind them op. The more successful bts gets the more tears they'll cry. All you'll have to do is sit and enjoy their meltdowns because those are truly glorious
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