These were the top ten biggest music markets in the world in 2024 according to IFPI

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    I wonder if I could filter data specifically for the biggest music markets for K-Pop.


    It would also be nice to see the percentage of each country's market share.


    But regardless, take a long look at the list. If your global numbers aren't in this top 10, I don't want to hear about them!

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    More important news is that Asia, the region that accounts for the highest number of physical sales, had a near 5% decrease and that streaming is making nearly 70% of recorded music revenue worldwide.

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    UK, Germany, France are all such big markets. Makes it even weirder JYP took so damn long before they finally started to somewhat utilize SKZ's numbers there with their new tour.


    But even now they're still not doing as much as they should. They don't even have physical distribution in the UK yet (which many other kpop groups have) and still chart there with pure digitals.

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    yea you can see all of them over the years on the wiki page:


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…st_recorded_music_markets


    It's unfortunate because if you look, you'll see prior years provide a more detailed breakdown. But at least on this wiki page, there is no info filled out for recent years.

    Still, if the margins in 2017 are statistically similar today, if you look at the retail value of each market, Japan alone has significantly more value than many of the lower ranked countries.


    This is yet more proof of concept behind why I don't treat all global streaming numbers equally.


    Good for your groups that they can chart high in Portugal, but I only care about big numbers in big markets.


    I bet if we COULD filter it to just K-Pop and not all music, South Korea would rank significantly higher.


    And all this proves that GD is a much bigger and more successful artist than Jennie overall.


    :meme-smirk:

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    Quote from Yama-Chan

    I bet if we COULD filter it to just K-Pop and not all music, South Korea would rank significantly higher.


    And all this proves that GD is a much bigger and more successful artist than Jennie overall.


    :meme-smirk:

    Jennie's not a K-pop artist, so of course he would beat her in a K-pop ranking :meme-how-about:



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    And yet people drag China's achievements while they are above Korea.

    Were there people a really arguing Korea was bigger than China?

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    And all this proves that GD is a much bigger and more successful artist than Jennie overall.


    #1. USA = Jennie

    #2. Japan = GD

    #3. UK = Jennie

    #4. Germany = Jennie

    #5. China = GD

    #6. France = Jennie

    #7. South Korea = GD

    #8. Canada = Jennie

    #9. Brazil = Jennie

    #10. Mexico = Jennie



    Overall, Jennie is much bigger 7/10 ( GD 3/10 )


    And if you consider China (the 5th largest market), Jennie isn't even far behind.

    So, the only gaps that make a difference are Korea and Japan.

    But even Korea is behind France in terms of music market.

    So overall (global) , it’s definitely Jennie


    It's funny because you just gave the data that proves the opposite of what you claim.

    Jennie being a C Lister in America isn't worth more than GD being a S+++ Lister in Japan, China and South Korea. And it's the combination of peak popularity AND longevity that puts GD in a class of his own.


    Give it up, Jennie simp. She's done nothing to warrant or merit comparison to an iconic legend like the K-Pop God, GD.


    This data strengthens my argument, as it always does.


    Claiming ANY idol is much bigger than THE GD should result in a one year ban from all K-Pop conversations.

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    She just buried herself with her own evidence lol.

    The snake is biting its own tail

    In 2017, Japan had as much retail value as the countries ranked from 6-10 combined.


    Jennie being a D Lister (congratulations, she's being downgraded out of spite now) in America doesn't really move the dial much, when there is such a massive gap in K-Pop's other biggest markets.


    But keep singing the nugu girl mantra, Blink

    It'll be 2030 and Yama will still be doing these GD Jennie threads bc he got upset over others opinions :skull:

    I live in Brazil and Jennie is huge here, as big as any other A lister foreign act like BP, BTS, Coldplay, Shakira, TS, etc while GD is just known in kpop niche. It's like 80% Jennie, 20% GD here and I'm even being generous.

    Quote from monalisalove

    It'll be 2030 and Yama will still be doing these GD Jennie threads bc he got upset over others opinions :skull:

    I live in Brazil and Jennie is huge here, as big as any other A lister foreign act like BP, BTS, Coldplay, Shakira, TS, etc while GD is just known in kpop niche. It's like 80% Jennie, 20% GD here and I'm even being generous.

    I don't believe that for even a split millisecond. I have people in Brazil and I'll ask them myself. Because no way in hell is Jennie an A Lister there. I mean, to compare her to SHAKIRA?!


    YOU BLINKS ARE ON THE STRONGEST STRAIN OF THE STRONGEST DRUGS THIS WEEK

    Quote from Yama-Chan

    I don't believe that for even a split millisecond. I have people in Brazil and I'll ask them myself. Because no way in hell is Jennie an A Lister there. I mean, to compare her to SHAKIRA?!


    YOU BLINKS ARE ON THE STRONGEST STRAIN OF THE STRONGEST DRUGS THIS WEEK

    So you are doubting me, a Brazilian, bc it doesn't go with your narrative? :skull: ok, next time I'll ask an European about South Korea stars and avoid Koreans opinions :boompepe:

    And Stray Kids


    #1. USA: will do a stadium concert

    #2. Japan: will do a stadium concert

    #3. UK: will do a stadium concert

    #4. Germany: will do a stadium concert

    #5. China: could do a stadium concert

    #6. France: will do a stadium concert

    #7. South Korea: will announce a stadium concert soon

    #8. Canada: will do a stadium concert

    #9. Brazil: will do a stadium concert

    #10. Mexico: will do a stadium concert


    They won

    Lol, Jennie isn’t declining anywhere in China, US, or Japan.

    Just because Oppashi debuted before her doesn’t mean she can’t have longevity too.

    You lost this argument the moment you put “Overall” next to your data.


    In fact, plenty of K-pop idols are bigger than GD not just Jennie.


    The “king” isn’t really kinging in the music market.

    Sorry, Yama, the 2nd generation era domination ended ages ago… you’re just the only one still stuck there :pepe-just-smile:

    And in more than half the countries it's MULTIPLE stadium concerts each

    but I was told by someone that if they aren't charting on melon they are not big in korea and therefore those stadium concerts mean nothing. :/

    I'm sorry, who is the one debuting at #1 on every chart in Korea, putting every song on his album in the top 20, a full 24 years after his debut as an artist, dominating the K-Pop music industry like it's still 2007?


    That's right. G****ingD. It's more like you zoomer K-Pop stans obsess over numbers that essentially amount to empty calories at the end of the day.


    Jennie wishes she could have a career even 1/4th as legendary as GD's. The likelihood of her reaching his status is unlikely at BEST.

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    Oh, for sure, while you are at it go ask the others +220M brazilians :thumbup:

    I have queried my Brazilian friend


    He's never even heard of Jennie.


    A LISTER HUH?


    :meme-go-on::meme-sure-jan:


    He did acknowledge that K-Pop is big in Brazil and guessed she must be a K-Pop idol, probably because I'm the one asking, but a TRUE A-Lister would crossover into the mainstream and not only be known within the K-Pop niche.


    Now apologize for lying to me, everyone here and yourself.


    If I didn't check the egos and entitlement of you Blinks, nobody else would. David does more harm than good, so he definitely is a detriment to my efforts.

    I'll tell you something surprising and your little head can explode. Shakira isn't known by 50% of Brazil population neither any other foreign act, being known here isn't everybody from my country where we have so many people that don't even use sns, but to be a A lister foreigner you don't need to be know by 100% of the population. Jennie name is up there with the successful pop girls here in Brazil, that's true, you are just clowning your self with this argument that she is a C list in others countries bc GD isn't even considered famous in some.

    Jennie trends for her music, fashion, lifestyle, influencer, she is the moment and here she is UP there.


    Now I won't apologize for something true I said that you don't want to admit bc it goes totally opposite to your delusion.

    Quote from monalisalove

    I'll tell you something surprising and your little head can explode. Shakira isn't known by 50% of Brazil population neither any other foreign act, being known here isn't everybody from my country where we have so many people that don't even use sns, but to be a A lister foreigner you don't need to be know by 100% of the population. Jennie name is up there with the successful pop girls here in Brazil, that's true, you are just clowning your self with this argument that she is a C list in others countries bc GD isn't even considered famous in some.

    Jennie trends for her music, fashion, lifestyle, influencer, she is the moment and here she is UP there.


    Now I won't apologize for something true I said that you don't want to admit bc it goes totally opposite to your delusion.

    I trust my source far more than your biased and clearly deluded devotion to that C Lister you want to convince me is a top star in Brazil, when you can't even convince yourself.


    I didn't say she's nugu, but you said she's an A Lister. There is a massive spectrum of popularity between the two, and I'm guiding you towards a more realistic perspective and pragmatic understanding of Jennie's relative popularity.


    And the facts are that she has done absolutely nothing of note to earn any kind of meaningful comparison to a living legend like GD, who has been producing and dropping hit songs for literal decades, and has proven this year that he is STILL the biggest name in K-Pop and its reigning king.


    Quite frankly, you're all just spiteful and hateful that a man you deem as "problematic" or "annoying" continues to effortlessly assert his dominance and put his foot on the THROATS of this industry that he has OWNED since 2007.


    The **** has Jennie even done? A couple big hit songs? Ooooooh. So impressive. A whole 6-7 month stretch of releasing moderately successful music and people think she deserves to sit at the table of one of the most successful, popular and powerful generational superstars in the entire HISTORY of this industry?


    KNOW. YOUR. PLACE.


    If you Blinks keep insisting this girl is on level with or, GD forbid, even higher than His Highness, I will be an unapologetic Jennie anti for as long as I follow K-Pop. I don't want that. You don't want that. Nobody wants it.


    So just show some RESPECT.

    You do know I stan GD too, right? So all your delusional and biased opinion against BP and Jennie doesn't make your takes right.

    BP influence in kpop is huge and so is Jennie, she is an it girl for a reason, Solo was huuuuge in SK, fashion wise even idols copy her, she did fair enough to kpop and you acting like she is some nugu is laughable when her album success is so visible and waaaaay higher than GD whose only charting where he is doing great is SK and China while completely missing in the others countries and doing ok even in Asia.

    You are acting all crazy over nostalgia, BB was huge in their time so was GD, now he still has his fandom and gp SK, but his popularity isn't the same when you see he can't even get streams enough to chart on Spotify, etc. and I'm not saying getting 4M, I'm saying getting 1.3M to chart in the top200.

    Impact is different from success. Jennie today is bigger than GD today.

    Blinks now claiming Jennie is an A list artist in Brazil, I can’t. It is totally fine claiming that she is more popular than GD. But Jennie isn’t A- list artist anywhere else except China and Korea, and that’s a fact. GP in other countries know BP, but not Jennie herself. Also people only know name of BP, and I bet that 9 out of 10 non kpop related people can’t name a single BP song let alone Jennie’s

    Quote from monalisalove

    You do know I stan GD too, right? So all your delusional and biased opinion against BP and Jennie doesn't make your takes right.

    BP influence in kpop is huge and so is Jennie, she is an it girl for a reason, Solo was huuuuge in SK, fashion wise even idols copy her, she did fair enough to kpop and you acting like she is some nugu is laughable when her album success is so visible and waaaaay higher than GD whose only charting where he is doing great is SK and China while completely missing in the others countries and doing ok even in Asia.

    You are acting all crazy over nostalgia, BB was huge in their time so was GD, now he still has his fandom and gp SK, but his popularity isn't the same when you see he can't even get streams enough to chart on Spotify, etc. and I'm not saying getting 4M, I'm saying getting 1.3M to chart in the top200.

    Impact is different from success. Jennie today is bigger than GD today.

    You stan falsehood and fraudulence, because nobody who truly respects the reigning King of K-Pop would spout the heresy that you do without even batting an eye. My take isn't even a take; it's K-Pop LAW.


    Jennie is a NOBODY compared to the entire breadth of GD's long, storied career.


    You think I give a damn about SPOTIFY?! GD has been releasing music since 2001. 200mother****ing1, and you're in here trying to to throw SPOTIFY stats at me, a platform that wasn't even relevant when BLACKPINK debuted, let alone a GOAT like GD


    You Blinks are always grasping for accolades and status you have NOT earned yet. BP is a legendary group now (still under SNSD), but Jennie as a soloist is nowhere CLOSE to GD. I don't care what overinflated, gaudy streaming figures you throw at me.


    Like a few million Spotify streams means more than being 24 years into your career and still being able to dominate the industry.


    Do you not understand the significance of that? Maybe if I spell it out


    Twenty. Four. YEARS.


    JENNIE HERSELF IS ONLY TWENTY NINE YEARS OLD


    GD has been releasing music nearly as long as she has been ALIVE, and he's been dropping HITS for 18 of those years.


    STOP THE CAP.


    All you Blinks do is set up Jennie by trying to compare her to the ultimate titans of the industry, like she's out here pulling Jungkook numbers globally. She ISN'T. She doesn't have a song that even rivals her own bandmate, Rose, with APT.


    Jennie is very popular today. And if her career ended today, that career wouldn't rank anywhere close to GD's.


    Put the homer goggles away and LISTEN TO REASON. LISTEN TO ME.


    She is NOT her. Not yet.


    I rest my case :meme-mmm-tea:

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