What's the biggest girl group song of the decade so far?

Most of the songs on that list are heavily overrated and only like 10 seconds of them are well-known.

Psycho is a masterpiece. Period.

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HYLT and it's really not even close.

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How did it perform in Korea?

I know How You Like That has strong numbers in the U.S., but it didn't last as long in the Hot 100 as even Super Shy and I don't think the song had much of an impact, even though it's one of my favorite BP songs (other than the outro; ****ing 1960s Superman lyrics).

Maybe I'm biased, but I just don't think How You Like That would be the first song people pick when thinking of the most iconic girl group songs of the decade.

It performed pretty well in Korea and globally it completely destroyed competition and it is still getting good views today.

HYLT dance video is still getting 650K views every day after 5 years

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The song should be chosen based on objective metrics and empirical data, not your personal preference.

You know exactly what you were looking for when you made this poll. But i'll play along since I'm bored.

Psycho on weekly charts (2019-2020):

MONTHYL CHARTS

MUSIC SHOW WINS

MELON POPULARITY AWARD:

AWARD CEREMONIES:

• Red Velvet was the first girl group and second group to achieve a RAK (Real Time All-Kill) in 2019 with "Psycho".

• "Psycho" was the first and only girl group song to achieve a roof-hit on MelOn in 2019.
• "Psycho" was the first song by a girl group to get a CAK (Certified All-Kill) in 2019. They are also the second group to achieve it in 2019.

• Billboard Critics ranked "Psycho" at number 18 on the 25 Best K-pop songs of 2019.
• "Psycho" is the fastest girl-group song to reach 100k likes on MelOn, they did so in 7 days.
• "Psycho" is the fastest SM song to reach 10 million streams on Spotify, they did so in 6 days.

• Allure Korea has named"Psycho"Psycho as one of the 3 idol groups masterpieces of 2019.
• "Psycho" was the first song to reached #1 on Billboard World Digital Song Sales this 2020.
• "Psycho" was now the highest score of all time on MBC Show Music Core with a total of 10,895 points.

• "Psycho" was the 6th most download song for the first half of 2020 (#1 for groups overall).
• "Psycho" was the fastest Red Velvet music video and the second fastest in SM to surpass 100 million views on YouTube.
• "Psycho" is the most streamed song on Spotify by Red Velvet. It also gains the record of most streamed song by any SM artist.
• "Psycho" was the fastest song of Red Velvet to reach 200k hearts on MelOn (8 months) and also becomes the 2nd fastest girl group song to do so.

• "Psycho" has suppressed 700 million digital points on Gaon Chart. It's the first girl group song to reach the milestone since "Dalla Dalla" by ITZY.
• "Psycho" Magazine chose Red Velvet's "Psycho" as the #1 Best K-pop song of 2020.

Credits: Psycho | Red Velvet Wiki | Fandom

All above data has been updated since 2022 but I'll guess that you disagree with my choice seeing as you're asking me to provide objective metrics. Because of this, it is up to you to provide your own data that disputes mine.

Keep in mind, the songs momentum was sort of slowed down by COVID.

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Are you making this claim based on...YouTube?

Because I agree it's not even close if we just look at the charts, particularly in Korea, where it's not remotely close in favor of Hype Boy or Ditto.

Hype Boy is already the most streamed song in Circle history (since its inception in 2018) and the second most streamed song in MelOn history behind only Cheer Up.

It also went hyper viral in Korea in ways HYLT never did.

I don't think YT views like...

...bridge the gap at all.

Just my opinion obviously.

Another data point is that Hype Boy released in 2022, was chosen by industry insiders as the song of the year in 2023, was the #2 song on the MelOn year end in 2023, and STILL made the Gallup Year End Survey for Song of the Year in 2024.

That is a HUGE flex.

I need some data of any song trumping that sustained longevity and relevance.

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I mean, what are we talking here? Overall success or impact? Overall HYLT is a far bigger song than any listed, not only doing quite well in SK but charting in countries other groups can't even dream of.

I'm kind of over wikipedia these days, but it's actually good for a quick glance at a songs charting performance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_You_Like_That

Now compare that with the top hits of other groups, you'll quickly see the list of charts they hit is much smaller. Needless to say, it was a massive global hit in the context of kpop.

And yes a quick glance at YT numbers, to me, would suggest HYLT eclipses any of these other songs, but I'm not just going off that. I mean c'mon, I know you don't like YT, but 1.6B views on a dance practice is extremely impressive and likely won't ever be topped.

However, my biggest reasoning is something I can't prove but I know is true. I believe HYLT (with Dynamite) were pivotal in introducing Kpop to Western countries and beyond, potentially bringing thousands or hundreds of thousands new fans to kpop, who are still here today. Again, I can't prove that with numbers, but to me that is some serious impact.

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I mean, what are we talking here? Overall success or impact? Overall HYLT is a far bigger song than any listed, not only doing quite well in SK but charting in countries other groups can't even dream of.

I'm kind of over wikipedia these days, but it's actually good for a quick glance at a songs charting performance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_You_Like_That

Now compare that with the top hits of other groups, you'll quickly see the list of charts they hit is much smaller. Needless to say, it was a massive global hit in the context of kpop.

And yes a quick glance at YT numbers, to me, would suggest HYLT eclipses any of these other songs, but I'm not just going off that. I mean c'mon, I know you don't like YT, but 1.6B views on a dance practice is extremely impressive and likely won't ever be topped.

However, my biggest reasoning is something I can't prove but I know is true. I believe HYLT (with Dynamite) were pivotal in introducing Kpop to Western countries and beyond, potentially bringing thousands or hundreds of thousands new fans to kpop, who are still here today. Again, I can't prove that with numbers, but to me that is some serious impact.

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HOW you like that is also the best selling kpop songs ever in China with more than 3million sales...i think it is also the best selling song by foreign artist in china.

Cupid, idk

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Did you take the time to examine the data or did you just run somewhere to copy and paste what looked like a healthy list of accomplishments to accommodate my request for objective data?

I browsed through this and almost every data point cited is relative to other songs released in 2019, not all songs released this decade.

I was nice enough to include Psycho, since it technically released in 2019, but in late December, so most of its numbers accumulated in 2020.

Most of the data points above have been trimmed by songs that released after.

This is why I stick to data that is more all encompassing, such as

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I'll tell you the amount of times a girl group song has demonstrated this kind of longevity before Hype Boy and ever since:

Zero. Never happened.

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So why ask a question when you have a pre-determined answer that you're ready to shove in people's faces?

Anyways, Psycho is a masterpiece.

Welp.

Hype Boy, is being beaten to a pulp by HYLT in the polls, Yama.

The polls never lie

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Are you making this claim based on...YouTube?

Because I agree it's not even close if we just look at the charts, particularly in Korea, where it's not remotely close in favor of Hype Boy or Ditto.

Hype Boy is already the most streamed song in Circle history (since its inception in 2018) and the second most streamed song in MelOn history behind only Cheer Up.

It also went hyper viral in Korea in ways HYLT never did.

I don't think YT views like...

...bridge the gap at all.

Just my opinion obviously.

Another data point is that Hype Boy released in 2022, was chosen by industry insiders as the song of the year in 2023, was the #2 song on the MelOn year end in 2023, and STILL made the Gallup Year End Survey for Song of the Year in 2024.

That is a HUGE flex.

I need some data of any song trumping that sustained longevity and relevance.

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It is also the first kpop gg song to reach 1B streams in Spotify and it is still most steamed gg song in the platform. It was also pretty big in tiktok. Everyone who used tiktok in 2020 probably heard this song.

HYLT feels like a viral song, but NewJeans' songs seem more lasting. I'm not saying this to diminish HYLT, I just feel that NewJeans' songs are more widely accepted and loved by the public. On the other hand, HYLT feels like one of those go-to songs when you want to have fun or hype yourself up. That's how I feel, but I can't prove it.

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I acknowledge and accept its numbers globally.

I'm unimpressed with how it performed in Korea relative to other hit songs.

Its impact in Korea just doesn't seem generational. Hype Boy is the very definition of a generational hit.

I don't think having more Spotify streams trumps a song that released in 2022 being a top 30 song at the end of 2024.

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Oh and if we are talking about longevity and impact, it is played in movie trailer that is gonna be released in 2025

How you like that reached 1B spotify streams 4 years after the song release. Cupid will reach it way faster and probably Magnetic too. Super Shy, OMG and Ditto will probably reach 1B around 4 years after their release too

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How you like that reached 1B spotify streams 4 years after the song release. Cupid will reach it way faster and probably Magnetic too. Super Shy, OMG and Ditto will probably reach 1B around 4 years after their release too

Spotify changed a lot. Jimin and Jungkook reach 1B probably twice faster than Dynamite, but I would say Dynamite is still far bigger than either of song.

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Because this is a forum and having discussions is the entire point of this platform

Nobody is required to participate.

Having a discussion is not shoving your point into our faces every chance you get.

WE GET IT, Yama. You stan NewJeans, an international phenomenon. Now let us live in peace!

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I just don't see it. BLACKPINK as a group had a big impact in the West, but don't compare HYLT to Dynamite please. One song was a #1 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 and broke every record known to K-Pop (until Ditto claimed a portion of those records in Korea), while the other song isn't even BP's longest charting song in the Hot 100, where it spent less weeks than Super Shy.

I'll be frank. I don't give a shit about YT views in the context of big songs, and I never will. At best, you can get me to agree to disagree, but there are plenty of songs that were massive in K-Pop but don't have billions of views.

Pink Venom has way more views than any song released in 2022, but who cares? It's not even a top 5 song released in that calendar year and not remotely close to the biggest hit.

I've been looking over data since I made this thread, and I don't see the impact stats that favor HYLT that at all, outside of YT views and some of the global metrics.

None of that is as impressive to me as Hype Boy making the Gallup Poll for 2024, despite releasing in 2022.

Or other data I'm looking at:

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How You Like That is NOT in my area on any of these lists.

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I was never saying HYLT was on the same level of Dynamite but it is pretty much the gg equivalent. Even if Dynamite was 1000x more impactful than HYLT, it doesn't change the fact that it was a super impactful song.

Unfortunately I just have to agree to disagree. It's really hard to say by just looking at numbers and I personally don't even think it comes down to just numbers, which you sort of exampled by bringing up YT views. Like if you polled 10000 people and the majority voted for Hype Boy, that would be the only way I'd agree with you. The poll on here is showing HYLT, but I'm not gonna take a poll on AKP too seriously.

Anyways, I have to stop looking at these stats to go do statistical analysis on f*cking traffic data, lord help me.

Worldwide Cupid

In Korea Hype Boy

When you ask a question like "What's a biggest girl group song of the decade" >90% of responses will be about vibes rather than stats. And it's hard to overcome "HYLT"s global influence and impact. It's also about what metrics people value more.

Koreans will answer "Hype Boy" and I think Hybe Boy and Ditto will go down as New Jeans' definitive songs. Despite Super Shy's Hot100 achievements I actually don't think the song itself will be remembered as impressively as the other 2.

"Through the Night" ranking #6 on the 2024 Gallup SEVEN years after it was released is also crazy.

How you like that is like on the stratosphere compared to other songs on the list lol

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