Like, I really don't get it. It's literally a Tiktok Award, or as I call it, "Christmas Award Show", because everyone is getting a present! 😂
A couple of years ago, we only had like 3 or maybe 4 Daesang, and now we have how many, 20? 
Most of these Kpop Awards shows has to be axed! A year ago XYZ fandoms said the same thing, what I'm saying now, but this year, they're celebrating like they won the Grammys.
Exactly!
They can celebrate, but I'm not talking about normal fans. I'm talking about idiots. Many of them ridiculed other fandoms every year saying: "Oh, it's not a real award, it's not a real Daesang.", but now that their faves won it, it proves they're the best and the biggest.
I don't think you should talk about trivial threads. You're the last person who should try to lecture me.😂
shut up, David.
They can celebrate, but I'm not talking about normal fans. I'm talking about idiots. Many of them ridiculed other fandoms every year saying: "Oh, it's not a real award, it's not a real Daesang.", but now that they faves won it, it proves they're the best and the biggest.
I don't think you should talk about trivial threads. You're the last person who should try to lecture me.😂
lol Totally agree with you
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At least try to be original.
At least try to be original.
fair, please stop having opinions, David
Also, for next year use a different saying.
This "Shut up, David." is kinda boring. Maybe you can come with something new with Yama on your holidays. 
I think it’s ok
It’s nice for different groups/artist to win awards even if people say they are attendance awards or TikTok awards they still worked hard and deserve the be rewarded
I would agree if different artists win these new awards, but they don't. It's the same 4-5 groups.
I'm not totally against new Award Shows, but pretty much 99% of them are popularity Awards for the mainstream artists, and the only one that promotes lesser known artists is the KMA.
For the record, I don't care who wins, I just think Kpop fans are one of the biggest hypocrites on this planet, and they these Awards to brag about it and shade others not to celebrate with their faves.
Also, for next year use a different saying.
This "Shut up, David." is kinda boring. Maybe you can come with something new with Yama on your holidays.
if you think Yama chan and I are on speaking terms, you are mistaken.
He got prissy after the last WP I gave him.
But ok, no need for next year or the holidays.
Silenzio stampa, David
lol all awards started out as attendance awards. Eventually they grew to become widely accepted.
AAA used to be one, but look at the big names attending. NJ, Ive, Lesserafim, Jo Yuri, you've pretty much got the biggest non SM groups in Kpop plus the next IU being featured.
It's clear that some awards and festivals have biases or beefs with certain labels. While AAA biases against SM, MBC Gayo biases against Hybe.
This "Shut up, David." is kinda boring.
Zip it, David?
they're celebrating like they won the Grammys.
what's wrong with that?
LE SSERAFIM were basically cheated out of an award by MAMA so getting the recognition they deserve on AAA is satisfying. I'm gonna brag brag and brag and brag about their awards AND the fact that all HYBE artists in attendance sang live with minimal backtrack.
"HYBE artists can't sing" Says who?? Clowns, of course.
lol all awards started out as attendance awards. Eventually they grew to become widely accepted.
AAA used to be one, but look at the big names attending. NJ, Ive, Lesserafim, Jo Yuri, you've pretty much got the biggest non SM groups in Kpop plus the next IU being featured.
It's clear that some awards and festivals have biases or beefs with certain labels. While AAA biases against SM, MBC Gayo biases against Hybe.
I'm back for a week at least maybe longer lol. It's my Christmas gift to you i know you've been dreaming of the day.
Welcome back dear
I don't see a problem with fans being happy unless they try to weaponize the win against other fandoms.
I support fans who are pure and genuine with their fanboying and fangirling. I'm sick and tired of people who token stan just to prove a point or to brag to other fandoms, meanwhile they have no real passion for their favorites, the music, or anything else of substance.
So, the nonexistent Honeymoon is already over. Sad.
don't make me say Kuss David
what's wrong with that?
LE SSERAFIM were basically cheated out of an award by MAMA so getting the recognition they deserve on AAA is satisfying. I'm gonna brag brag and brag and brag about their awards AND the fact that all HYBE artists in attendance sang live with minimal backtrack.
"HYBE artists can't sing" Says who?? Clowns, of course.
Nothing! My MAIN point here was that the same fandom ridiculed other fans when they did the same and said, it's not a real Daesang and just a lame Award Show.
That's all, really. My post isn't about Le Sserafim, it's about Kpop stans in general.
BTW, what do you mean by: "LSF was cheated out by MAMA"? Without any bias, LSF didn't deserve any nomination this year, and tbh most of those who won an Award didn't deserve it. I know, MAMA and almost every Award is based on popularity and numbers, but still, 2024 was a LACKLUSTER year QUALITY wise!
Many HYBE artist can sing, even some LSF members, but like it or not, the fact is, they can't sing their own songs. They have like 2 good singers, and that's all. Le Sserafim is a dance crew, nothing more.
I don't see a problem with fans being happy unless they try to weaponize the win against other fandoms.
This is my problem, here, not really the Award show or the winners.
Display Moreyou do realise that most of them are exactly that?
Bought and paid by their companies.
It's the bloody same with all awards be it magazines, tv shows or heck even your granny's award show.
But let people enjoy the interactions. With 3A at least I saw Yuri and WY together.
My Izone heart is happy
Yes, I know, that's why I didn't mention that yet.
I don't mind these Award shows, what I don't like is the toxicity, and the hypocrite fans.
Congrats to all the winners, but if next time someone else wins this, and not their faves, they will think this is just a meaningless Award again.
There are too many popularity award shows. I get it, it's all about money, who would watch Award Shows with a bunch of nugus, but still, in a long-run, I still think helping the lesser knows artists to be more popular would help the industry as well. More people would see that Kpop is not just about cute girls and boys.
I mean, just look at all those mainstream Award shows or the people in the West, they think Kpop is all about BTS, Blackpink, TWICE, and some new popular groups. Kpop is bigger than ever, but the public still think it's childish.
I don't care if they deserved the Award or not, most of the time that's about personal taste and favoritism anyway. There's no point arguing about that.
Preaching on Twitter is like preaching in Hell. They know God exist, but it's too late.😂
I don't care if they deserved the Award or not, most of the time that's about personal taste and favoritism anyway. There's no point arguing about that.
Preaching on Twitter is like preaching in Hell. They know God exist, but it's too late.😂
The awards are based on numbers, charts, etc so it's pretty obvious when favoritism takes place.
And yeah, but regardless this issue belongs there... Good luck
That's all, really. My post isn't about Le Sserafim, it's about Kpop stans in general.
Well I wanted to bring them up to show why I personally was hyped up for it.
BTW, what do you mean by: "LSF was cheated out by MAMA"? Without any bias, LSF didn't deserve any nomination this year, and tbh most of those who won an Award didn't deserve it. I know, MAMA and almost every Award is based on popularity and numbers, but still, 2024 was a LACKLUSTER year QUALITY wise!
It's cuz MAMA didn't nominate Perfect Night for SOTY and I'm very sure they did that on purpose because all the predictions for SOTY showed that Perfect Night had a strong chance to win.
I see you hopped on the train, also. 
Good for you.
First of all, their ability to sing has little correlation to the premise of this thread.
Secondly, they can all sing. Their vocals might not be up to standards but they can still sing as evidenced by the fact that several of their performances this year and in the past has been live.
So instead of remaining oblivious to reality by using the same recycled clips to feed your delusion, go do your research and stop yapping.
I'd recommend some clips but what are the chances you'll actually watch them?
I don't see it any different than other award shows besides MAMA or MMA. I mean AAA, SBS Gayo Daejeon, Seoul Music Awards, etc. are all the same to me.
Display MoreWell I wanted to bring them up to show why I personally was hyped up for it.
It's cuz MAMA didn't nominate Perfect Night for SOTY and I'm very sure they did that on purpose because all the predictions for SOTY showed that Perfect Night had a strong chance to win.
I see you hopped on the train, also.
First of all, their ability to sing has little correlation to the premise of this thread.
Secondly, they can all sing. Their vocals might not be up to standards but they can still sing as evidenced by the fact that several of their performances this year and in the past has been live.
So instead of remaining oblivious to reality by using the same recycled clips to feed your delusion, go do your research and stop yapping.
I'd recommend some clips but what are the chances you'll actually watch them?
Yes, you were hyped up, but did you attack other fandoms saying, their faves are trash? If not, my thread isn't about you.
Perfect Night is a CF song, no? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that's the reason they didn't nominated it.
I didn't hop on any train. I only voiced my opinion about their lack of vocals skills once or twice. That's all.
The fact that you said: "Their vocals might not be up to standards" proves not all of them can sing.
For the record: I NEVER make any opinion about something I didn't see or hear! Other than Chaewon and Yunjin, no one is better than below-average in LSF. Garam carried them until HYBE kicked her out.
I will say this one last time: NOT EVERYTHING IS LIVE JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S LIVE!
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