Copy of NewJeans pre-termination demands

ADOR won't meet these requests unless they are willing to implicate higher ups of other sub-labels. ADOR is not willing to go against HYBE to protect NewJeans like what MHJ used to do.

Two more days until we're free 😭😭

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Can someone tell me how this works coz I know dogshit

NJs can just list demands and if Ador/HYBE/whoever doesn't go ahead with those demands NJs can terminate their contract without any repercussions? Because whatever that is posted make it seem that way

The requests provided are in line with the terms of their contracts.

NewJeans requests are termed as contract violations by ADOR and they are providing them 14 days to correct these contract violations

or the group will terminate their contract.

They didn't ask for MHJ to be put back in the CEO position? I saw some tweets mentioning it?

Anyways I guess within this week end we'll get the contract termination news. We all know hybe/ador won't fulfill these simple and basic demands.

NGL if this is all true you've got to laugh. Not only does it mean newjeans can walk away without paying a cent, but it also covers MHJ for her suit against Hybe.

Woman really made sure to build in safeguard after safeguard to protect them from Hybe. No wonder the girls and their families stood behind her so hard.

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So they can terminate, no terms attached, and just exit like that?

Depends who you ask lol. Obviously tokkis are going to tell you that its 110% and MHJ is Korean Jesus. HYBE stans will have a different view. Nobody actually knows.

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Depends who you ask lol. Obviously tokkis are going to tell you that its 110% and MHJ is Korean Jesus. HYBE stans will have a different view. Nobody actually knows.

Correct only a court can determine if the contract was violated.

interesting

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So they can terminate, no terms attached, and just exit like that?

Ofcourse, my favs are not some nugu peasants like your

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Tbh those demands are...pretty basic?

I was expecting more they seem easy to meet

It might seem simple, but ABCE is basically asking Ador to go against their own people, which would cause chaos across all the subsidiaries involved, including Hybe’s higher-ups. I don’t think the new ceo has the guts to pull that off. I doubt they’d even have the nerve to pretend to sue those involved, it could open another Pandora’s box if the authorities decided to dig deeper like what happens to their internal report. Plus, Hybe’s ties with certain politicians makes them targets for those politicians’ enemies as well.

D is tricky because it involves Dispatch, who, as we all know, have good relationship with Hybe. If that relationship falls apart, who knows what Dispatch might expose about them.

As for E, it’s not as simple as just apologizing to Shin Woo Seok and hoping he’ll let it slide. The new ceo already dragged him into this mess and even threatened him with a lawsuit, so good luck for them to settle things with him peacefully.

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I have a feeling they aren't going to do shit to any of the demands.

They probably be thinking "if we let them have what they want now so easily, then how are we gonna control them in future?"

If they don't accept newjeans demands then there would be no "how are we gonna control them in future?" cuz newjeans would be terminating their contracts with them anyways.

..I wonder who’s willing to pick up the group if they term from HYBE(sha)?

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..I wonder who’s willing to pick up the group if they term from HYBE(sha)?

The real question isn’t who’s willing to sign them, but who can win them over. A new group with them could easily sell over 500k albums, and I bet some of their cfs deals will follow since many brands seem loyal to the girls. If the ex 50/50 girls can find their place in the industry back, this is not an issue to Nj.

Min Hee Jin’s KakaoTalk chats estimate massive penalty fee for NewJeans’ contract termination with ADOR

A speculative estimate of NewJeans' contract termination fee has surfaced via Min Hee Jin's past KakaoTalk conversations with ADOR…

www.allkpop.com

"Legal experts view the case as a challenging one for NewJeans. Lawyer Cho Gwang Hee of One Law Partners told Chosun.com: “It is unclear exactly how ADOR violated the contract based on NewJeans’ demands. Unless the court finds sufficient grounds to suspend the validity of the exclusive contract, the agreement will remain in effect.”

Lawyer Cho further elaborated, “Most of the issues raised by NewJeans in their notice pertain to HYBE. While HYBE and ADOR may appear closely connected, they are legally separate entities. Misconduct by HYBE cannot be grounds to terminate a contract with ADOR.”

He also pointed out, “Calculating compensation based on the premise of NewJeans leaving the company could give the impression that NewJeans and Min Hee Jin’s team are aligned. Such remarks might evoke suspicions of tampering (illegal pre-contact) between NewJeans and Min Hee Jin, which would require further clarification.”

Smell ya later, ador.

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Whats your salary w hybe? They holding your family hostage? Your favorite flavor is BSH’s boot?

I just pointing out as I have said before that this is not some kind of clear deal or a homerun. Better that then all fans thinks it a done deal. As I have said before, it's not that easy. And no, I don't care about Hybe because I don't like any of their groups.

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I just pointing out as I have said before that this is not some kind of clear deal or a homerun. Better that then all fans thinks it a done deal. As I have said before, it's not that easy. And no, I don't care about Hybe because I don't like any of their groups.

Nobody gives a shit what you think, who you dislike or even what you had for breakfast this morning. It seems like you're desperate to get the KPL treatment, so congratulations. I'm happy to let you know you've made it and I will be responding to you just how I used to with KPL before his time on this forums was concluded.

It is clear you don't know or understand anything about this dispute, and just look for the most negative ckickbait articles to fuel your confirmation bias in your crusade against all things NewJeans.

You were bitching about NewJeans threads the other day, yet for some reason I see you polluting every last one of them with your putrid presence.

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Nobody gives a shit what you think, who you dislike or even what you had for breakfast this morning. It seems like you're desperate to get the KPL treatment, so congratulations. I'm happy to let you know you've made it and I will be responding to you just how I used to with KPL before his time on this forums was concluded.

It is clear you don't know or understand anything about this dispute, and just look for the most negative ckickbait articles to fuel your confirmation bias in your crusade against all things NewJeans.

You were bitching about NewJeans threads the other day, yet for some reason I see you polluting every last one of them with your putrid presence.

Hey what up with this lovely attitude you have, always attacking people you don't agree with.

It's very clear you don't understand either when you think it's no problems for NJ. You attacked me before because I was not a layer and did not now anything. Well, in the article in the link you have lawer saying just what I have been saying, it's not that easy for NJ.

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Hey what up with this lovely attitude you have, always attacking people you don't agree with.

It's very clear you don't understand either when you think it's no problems for NJ. You attacked me before because I was not a layer and did not now anything. Well, in the article in the link you have lawer saying just what I have been saying, it's not that easy for NJ.

You are getting the attitude you deserve and earned from me, so you can drop the conspicuous attempt at masquerading as some innocent bystander and not the toxic bad actor you actually are. I don't attack people who disagree with me. I go after people who are obvious, malignant trolls who aren't actually interested in a good faith conversation and only want to spread hate about a group and its individual members.

Nobody disrespected you when you decided it was a good idea to make that ridiculous sexual comment about NewJeans, so don't expect respect from me or anyone else going forward. I'm not one to forgive or forget.

You copy and paste articles without understanding the timeline of events or the nuance of the dispute, and you're clearly just trying to instigate shit with Bunnies. Well congratulations. Now we have problems.

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You are getting the attitude you deserve and earned from me, so you can drop the conspicuous attempt at masquerading as some innocent bystander and not the toxic bad actor you actually are. I don't attack people who disagree with me. I go after people who are obvious, malignant trolls who aren't actually interested in a good faith conversation and only want to spread hate about a group and its individual members.

Nobody disrespected you when you decided it was a good idea to make that ridiculous sexual comment about NewJeans, so don't expect respect from me or anyone else going forward. I'm not one to forgive or forget.

You copy and paste articles without understanding the timeline of events or the nuance of the dispute, and you're clearly just trying to instigate shit with Bunnies. Well congratulations. Now we have problems.

When you and others claim I'm totally wrong when I bring up the the issue with breaking the contract is not that easy I of cource have an intrested to follow up on it and showing you that I'm not the only one seeing a problem. It's you that refuses to admit it's not that easy. And here you have a laywer saying the same thing, but you only ignore it.

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When you and others claim I'm totally wrong when I bring up the the issue with breaking the contract is not that easy I of cource have an intrested to follow up on it and showing you that I'm not the only one seeing a problem. It's you that refuses to admit it's not that easy. And here you have a laywer saying the same thing, but you only ignore it.

I'm not ignoring the lawyer. I'm saying that you, specifically because of the obvious intent behind your involvement in every NewJeans thread, don't have a credible opinion on the topic. Any time someone has tried to discuss the topic in good faith with you, something you're allergic to, YOU choose to ignore the talking points and just reiterate the same rhetoric to continue justifying your pursuit of every doomsday narrative for NewJeans.

The gimmick has worn thin. And don't think that disgusting comment you made will be forgotten with the thread you made it in

People who grossly sexualize the members of NewJeans like you did will need to wear that shame like a scarlet letter, and I'll make sure everyone is aware of it any time you pop up in a NewJeans thread.

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I'm not ignoring the lawyer. I'm saying that you, specifically because of the obvious intent behind your involvement in every NewJeans thread, don't have a credible opinion on the topic. Any time someone has tried to discuss the topic in good faith with you, something you're allergic to, YOU choose to ignore the talking points and just reiterate the same rhetoric to continue justifying your pursuit of every doomsday narrative for NewJeans.

The gimmick has worn thin. And don't think that disgusting comment you made will be forgotten with the thread you made it in

People who grossly sexualize the members of NewJeans like you did will need to wear that shame like a scarlet letter, and I'll make sure everyone is aware of it any time you pop up in a NewJeans thread.

I don't undederstand that just because I have a different opinion that you need to say I ignore stuff, we just have different opinion it.

And the comment I made was an obvious joke because the thread starter was comparing them to Jesus so it was normal next logic step to compare them the the mother instead.. but hey, the sence of humor in this group is like.... zero.

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Can someone tell me how this works coz I know dogshit

You really think someone here has knowledge of Korean law? Just say whatever you want like everyone else to farm the akorns

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I don't undederstand that just because I have a different opinion that you need to say I ignore stuff, we just have different opinion it.

And the comment I made was an obvious joke because the thread starter was comparing them to Jesus so it was normal next logic step to compare them the the mother instead.. but hey, the sence of humor in this group is like.... zero.

HAHAHAHA sexual jokes about idols, especially minors, is just so funny. HAHAHAHA.

I can't imagine why nobody laughed with you or why the comment was reported before I even had a chance to hit the button.

Your lack of contrition just further confirms your lack of character and why your opinions have zero credibility.

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https://www.allkpop.com/articl…act-termination-with-ador

"Legal experts view the case as a challenging one for NewJeans. Lawyer Cho Gwang Hee of One Law Partners told Chosun.com: “It is unclear exactly how ADOR violated the contract based on NewJeans’ demands. Unless the court finds sufficient grounds to suspend the validity of the exclusive contract, the agreement will remain in effect.”

Lawyer Cho further elaborated, “Most of the issues raised by NewJeans in their notice pertain to HYBE. While HYBE and ADOR may appear closely connected, they are legally separate entities. Misconduct by HYBE cannot be grounds to terminate a contract with ADOR.”

He also pointed out, “Calculating compensation based on the premise of NewJeans leaving the company could give the impression that NewJeans and Min Hee Jin’s team are aligned. Such remarks might evoke suspicions of tampering (illegal pre-contact) between NewJeans and Min Hee Jin, which would require further clarification.”

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"High possibility of termination of exclusive contract"... Asked by 'entertainment expert' lawyer Kim Taeyeon

On the 14th, Taeyeon Law Firm's representative attorney Kim Taeyeon stated in a phone call with News 1TV, "Considering the circumstances in which (New Jeans) sent the certified letter of termination of the exclusive contract, there could be two directions," and "It varies depending on the contract, but there are provisions that allow for direct termination of the exclusive contract, and there are also cases where it is written in writing that the agency must take corrective action before terminating the contract." She added, "In fact, since there is content for corrective action, it is possible that New Jeans made up their mind in advance in order to carry out a legitimate termination according to the contract procedures, decided on their intent to terminate the contract, and then made a formal request for corrective action and attempted to proceed with the contract termination procedure. Or, it is also possible that they made the decision to terminate the contract depending on whether or not corrective action was taken."

Attorney Kim explained, "However, this is not the first time that this issue has been known. The conflict between the management of HYBE and ADORE has been an issue since before that." "Because there were many problems, such as how to deal with the group called New Jeans, in reality, it can be seen that the relationship of trust was damaged."

She added , "First, before the court argues over who is at fault for terminating the contract, it will first review whether the relationship of trust between the agency and the artist was damaged and if there is any practical benefit to maintaining the contract, and then decide whether the exclusive contract remains valid or not." "Considering all the circumstances, it seems that the conflict has already become full-blown and that it will be difficult to resolve, so if HYBE does not comply with the request for corrective action within 14 days, it is likely that the court will view it as a damaged relationship of trust and thus terminate the contract first . "

She predicted, "It doesn't seem easy to get a ruling that 'the exclusive contract must be maintained'" and "If New Jeans can prove in detail that the exclusive contract was terminated due to the company's fault, the contract can be terminated without a penalty or damages. However, if it is not proven, the penalty will have to be borne. It may vary depending on the contents of the contract, but it seems that the intellectual property (IP) rights may also have to be given up and activities as a new artist may have to be carried out."

According to the standard contract, the penalty is usually calculated by multiplying the number of months remaining in the contract by the average monthly sales for the previous year or the previous two years. Attorney Kim said, "In the case of Ador, sales were confirmed to be over 110 billion won as of last year, and the remaining contract period is about 5 years," and "The penalty or damages are expected to amount to hundreds of billions of won."

Attorney Kim diagnosed this case as a special case. It is not common for large agencies to make such a big deal. He said, "When we work with large agencies, we usually reach an agreement, and we don't reveal problems that would be widely reported in the media," and "There are some cases where disputes have revealed various problems in the company, such as state audits. Since CEO Min Hee-jin has had a huge influence on and helped artists grow, it's common sense to think that (the current situation) has caused the most damage to New Jeans."

According to the music industry on the 14th, the group New Jeans sent a certified letter to Ador, a subsidiary of HYBE, the previous day. The members reportedly sent the certified letter to the agency under their real names, including Kim Min-ji, Honey Pham, Marsh Daniel, Kang Hae-rin, and Lee Hye-in.

The document reportedly contained the following: "Please allow former CEO Min Hee-jin to be in charge of Ador's management and New Jeans' production as before," and "We demand that all major violations of the exclusive contract be corrected within 14 days. If this is not accepted, we will terminate the exclusive contract."

On this day, Ador told News 1, "We received the certified mail this morning and are currently reviewing it and are aware of the specific requests," and "We will do our best to wisely resolve the issue so that we can continue to work with the artist."

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"'전속계약을 유지해야 된다'라는 판결이 나오기는 쉽지 않아 보여요. (현 상황이) 그룹 뉴진스에게 피해가 가장 많이 갔다고 생각하는 것이 상식이라고 보여집니다." 태연 법률사무소 김태연 대표변호사는 14일 뉴스1T

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HAHAHAHA sexual jokes about idols, especially minors, is just so funny. HAHAHAHA.

I can't imagine why nobody laughed with you or why the comment was reported before I even had a chance to hit the button.

Your lack of contrition just further confirms your lack of character and why your opinions have zero credibility.

well three of them are like 20? one is 18? so thats four adults. okay one is 16, did not one was that young.

But sure I apologies if anyone did not like it.

But at least I don't attack people and insult people like you do.

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"High possibility of termination of exclusive contract"... Asked by 'entertainment expert' lawyer Kim Taeyeon

https://n.news.naver.com/article/421/0007909256

You have lawears with different opinions as in this forum, it just shows that it's a complicated issue that is not easy to say how it will end.

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well three of them are like 20? one is 18? so thats four adults. okay one is 16, did not one was that young.

There isn't a ripe age for when it's okay to make inappropriate at best sexual comments and suggestions about any idol. Stop digging your hole deeper.

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But sure I apologies if

There is no "if" nor should there be any conditions for your apology. Just apologize.

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But at least I don't attack people and insult people

...on the scale of toxic, trash behavior, I don't think being rude to trolls ranks as high as making sexual innuendos about minors but that's just me.