Posts by Blossomin88

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

    This a wild claim considering

    -Hybe bought out Tag PR, the company that very infamously ruined Amber heard and tried to take down Blake Lively

    -there have been more negative articles written about NewJeans than Seungri got during Burning Sun, often posted outside the entertainment section of naver to open them up to hate comments. Hybe's misdeeds got minimal coverage and repressed in the media

    -The head of Hybe's pr was recorded bath mouthing them to journalists and subtly trying to bribe them

    -The head of weverse magazine had been distributing internal documents referencing replacing them

    Damn, I didn’t see your reply otherwise, I wouldn’t have bothered answering. Like isn't it funny how Hybe has been caught doing this multiple times, and suddenly, they don’t care about Nj anymore to not doing any tricks against the girls. Who would believe that.

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    Quote from poteto

    I like when everything always ends with this excuse, but at the end of the day the ones paying a company, Malcom, to do reverse marketing are MHJ and NJ, and the ones going to talk with politicians during this drama and take a few photos with them like it's a fan meeting are NJ.

    Ah, I didn’t even quote you as my intention just to give some infos to other Bunnies , but it’s funny how my criticism of Hybe somehow hit a nerve. Why is that? The company is shady, so what? They’ve been caught every time Nj makes a move, and you really think they won’t do it again? With all their money, you think this isn’t possible?


    And wait, where did this ‘Malcom’ thing even come from? Maybe only you guys know about it, just like this Chinese thing. You all are really something else.


    Anyway, let’s break it down: The one with billions of dollars? HYBE. The one owning shares in that shady TAG PR company? HYBE. The one exposed for trash-talking the entire industry in an 18,000-page ‘weekly report’? HYBE. The one with media connections and being protected by the corporations community and even KOMCA? Well, HYBE. The one linked to past political leaders, and even getting visits from Korea’s former First Lady and Japan’s Minister’s wife? HYBE. Oh, and my favorite—who is Bang’s father again? You must forget. And how did they easily escape without any punishment when a worker died at their company, yet they didn’t even bother to file a report when it was mandatory?


    And suddenly, Hanni getting invited to the National Assembly to talk about her bullying and taking a few pictures with them is now considered ‘having political connections’ when it's just a normal reaction towards celebrities. Isn’t that funny?


    And most importantly, the one caught ‘playing golf’ and paying journalists to write hate pieces against NewJeans? Also HYBE. Like… come on.

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    Quote from SooYoung

    I saw someone in the thread talking about rumor of a chinese company backing them up

    Never mind, I looked into it. If anyone’s curious, on the Korean side, it’s tied to some current political issues where they’re pushing anti-Chinese sentiment even harder than usual. Since Nj will be performing in Hong Kong and just opened their Weibo acc, they got dragged into it, and some people started claiming their fashion style looks Chinese in that new photoshoot. And of course, the 'you-know-who’s fandom' is trying to spread it internationally as if you search in Twitter, the only one that talk about that is them, like I'm not even joking. Even Tokki are clueless about this issues and we're the fans here. But honestly, no one’s buying it, it’s obviously just another Hybe doing their usual reverse marketing, using politics against the girls.

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    Quote from SooYoung

    If the rumors of them signing with a chinese company , will koreans turn their back on them for signing with a chinese company considering the big hate koreans have for chinese, and not sign with a korean label even if it's a small one, and see them as sell out ?

    Wait, this new to me. Even as a Bunny, I had no idea about this at all. Where is this coming from? I’m curious as I haven’t seen anything about it on any of my circle.

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    Quote from onwards

    I get being realistic, but some of the points your making are out of context which is making their situation look worse than it is. Their sales went down, in the midst of an overall decline in sales in the industry and them releasing a double feature within weeks of eachother. If we look at Aespa who literally killed it in 2024, they sold almost 1.7 mill first week with my world, sold 900k first week with their last CB whiplash, yet we aren't saying their fanbase declined. The 'new songs' were barely promoted thanks to the mess and Hyein's injury, were both single albums and one was aimed towards Japan but they still sold 1.6 mill in the first week combined.


    I get wanting them to do huge numbers to screw with the people who hate them thanks to the Hybe thing, but every single time they do anything outside Hybe, get new endorsements, are able to release new music is already sends them into a frenzy. Not to mention, the amount of fans who didn't support those single albums as much as they wanted to due to the disputes with Hybe and not wanting to give Hybe money.

    As I said, this is just an opinion-based question, so no one needs to defend their stance and by saying that, no one also needs to 'correcting' anyone's opinions unless it's out of line. Just remember, as individuals everyone sees the severity of the situation differently. I have my own reasons for seeing it this way and why their situation isn’t the same as Aespa’s. But explaining it would just drag the unnecessary discussion on longer, and like I mentioned, that’s not necessary here.

  • Honestly, do you think NJZ’s redebut will be successful?

    I want to hear your thoughts on this, so I’m not using a voting system,some people just vote and leave without explaining. Since this is a personal opinion, I hope no one starts arguing unless the opinions is actually disrespectful or hateful. JUST BE RESPECTFUL IN GIVING YOUR OPINIONS! I just want everyone to share their thoughts freely without feeling like they have to defend themselves. We’ll see the truth in March anyway, so let’s just treat this as our initial thoughts before the big day.


    For me, as a fan of the girls, I have some serious concerns about NJZ’s debut ngl. They mentioned that Korean media coverage is barely on their side, which is a huge disadvantage in the long run. Companies literally pay reporters to stage "paparazzi" shots and hire journalists to write flattering articles to hype their idols. So, pretending local media doesn’t matter isn’t realistic. I hope they can flip those medias to their side after redebut.


    The concept change worries me too. Nj had one of the strongest brand identities in kpop, and it was carefully curated for years to be this impactful. Can they really recreate something just as iconic in such a short time? Will MHJ’s "magic" still work now that she’s under so much pressure, unlike when she first created Nj? And if she’s not involved, can a new team really outdo what she built, considering how legendary their debut was?


    Of course, I want the girls to be even more successful, but I can’t lie, I have my own doubts. I believe in them, but realistically in my eyes, the chances aren’t looking great. They’ve already lost a lot of fans along the way, their sales have dropped, and their new songs streams aren’t as strong as they were before the feud. Yes, they were still cumulatively the best selling gg and the most streamed gg on Spotify last year, but we can't denied their decline in performance compared to before the feud begin. So my biggest question is will their numbers drop even more, or will they come back even stronger after this long hiatus and with everything that has happened.


    Honestly, deep down, I feel like it’ll take a miracle of releasing a very huge hit for the get go for them to keep their position, especially with the debut of many new groups from big companies and their 4th gen peers all ahead in album released and promotion. But I really hope I’m wrong. I’ll keep supporting them no matter what, and I don't care about numbers and achievements. But, I still want the girls to have the last laugh and prove everyone wrong especially Hybe and their stans. Yet, even so I can’t lie, it’s hard to be 100% confident, even as a fan.

  • How much are the Coachella controversy and the Mhj vs Hybe feud affecting Lsf?

    I saw the MMA video yesterday, and all the groups, even Illit, got good cheers during the nominations. But when it was lsf turn, it went completely silent. I never paid much attention to stuff like this, but I didn’t expect to see that happen to such a popular group. It was awkward. So, it just makes me wonder how much everything that happened this year has affected them and their popularity. Personally, I don’t think the Coechella and hybe feud a big of a deal for people to feel so torn about them. Especially the Coachella one, it's such a silly 'controversy' for me.


    I’m not following their charts or international achievements, I can’t say much about that. So I’m wondering how bad the vocal controversies were for them. I’m also not sure if the whole Hybe vs. MHJ feud is affecting them, since that seems more focused on Illit.

  • ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - 8 || Summary on page 1

    Quote from BIGnorBANG

    What do you expect? He's a Leo! Pride in his work is a massive thing to him, and for someone like MHJ's label to be successful without him, under his own company, is a massive stinger to his ego. He wants groups under Hybe to be successful, but only with his input and production (bar SVT, since they were successful before him).

    People who judge personalities based on horoscopes are weird. No one can change my mind.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    Quote from Taemin-Identity

    lol Ive was mentioned 100 times in this thread that’s why I just included them…

    And I got confused by your reply saying Sakura is behind Karina, Ningning and Yuqi and thought that you forgot to include Ive lol


    I don’t think gg fans can buy that much albums when biggest girl groups only manage to sell out KSPO dome unlike Lim Wong Young who can easily sell out Seoul World Cup stadium several times and tour everywhere in Korea


    It’s so much easier to just admit you misunderstood me from the start, like a normal person, because what everyone else does said here has nothing to do with me, the one you’re replying to.


    Who said all those sales are from Korea, since NJ has a large international fandom unlike Lwy? He's just a good example of how Koreans can contribute a lot in sales when the artists have a huge fanbase there, which obviously Nj biggest advantage compared to Lsf since Kpop biggest market is still their own country. Not to mention, there are so many countries in the world, including Sea, which is also a huge contributor to album sales.


    At this point, I feel like you don’t really have a point and just don’t want to lose the arguments for whatever reason.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?



    And if you’re not triggered, then what's up with all those sudden, weird Ive inserts that are out of topic? And why is it surprising when Korea is still the biggest contributor to album sales for Kpop? LWY managed to hit 1 million sales just from his domestic fans. So, meaning Nj have solid fanbase there. And Nj did blow up in sales in China during the Omg era, but after some controversy that makes them getting 'boycotted' a bit and Kpop restrictions in China, they lost a big chunk of their sales there. Their next comeback, Get Up, only had 180k preorders. Yet, by this people understood that they’re one of the few groups that won’t see a decrease just because they lost sales from China. Then, this year’s comeback didn’t even hit 100k, with Haerin's bar (their biggest one) only reaching around 30k+. Meanwhile, Antifragile had over 200k preorders (I’m too lazy to search that), and Sakura’s bars alone were at 170k. Then we see an increase in next cb, with Unforgiven, they hit 318k. For their comeback this year, Sakura and Kazuha’s bars didn’t want to reveal the total sales for their albums because they’re mad at Soumu, but since Sakura’s bars always do 100k+, I don’t think much has changed. Her fanbase is super solid and consistent.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    What exactly did I say that got you so triggered to start posting about all these achievements? Did you even read what I wrote? Where did I say Lsf is as or more popular as the girl groups you listed in China? I just said they have more fandom power than Nj in China because of Sakura, and Lsf's Cbars numbers are always higher, which shows they have a more dedicated fanbase there compared to Nj. Everyone knows Sakura has a strong Chinese fanbase, especially those who’ve followed her since izone.


    Also, I’m not sure if this part what makes you misunderstood my comment, but when I said Ive isn’t on the list, I meant they’re not nominated for MMA’s Best Female Group this year. That’s the whole point of this thread. So, there's no reason to include them to the conversation.


    And like you said, the QQ Music followers list isn’t accurate anyway (Ive isn’t even on it), so why even bring it up?

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    Quote from jimeous

    Since the original topic didn't feel the need to show proof of their opinion then why should I?


    But I will say, historically, Melon has invalidated votes from China due to suspicious activity, so it makes more sense that the that LSFM may not have lost any Korean fans.

    Where did I ask for proof again? I replied about last year's vote here, there wasn’t a huge difference from now. Their fandom just never that strong voters to begin with, so at least we're on the same page.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    I never said they're on the same level as Aespa or Gidle, and Ive isn't even on the list. But from what I know, Lsf's Cbar orders are always higher than Nj's, plus they have Sakura, one of the female idols with the biggest fandom in China, so they're ahead of NJ when it comes to fandom power there.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    Quote from jimeous

    It's so amusing for you to ask where LSFM's Korean fans are for a vote that is notorious to be mainly China Fan rigged and bought.

    Funny how you’re throwing out those accusations because if that were true, we all know gidle would be on the top 2. And Sakura is probably the most popular there after Yuqi and Karina, maybe Ningning too. China has never really been Njs' strong market compared to others, and I’m not sure about Illit. We can see that from their cbars pre-orders alone to see how invested their fans there.

  • What happened to LSFM's Korean fans? Are you surprised by this?

    Quote from Tatiana1820

    I agree, let's also discuss Ive fandom? cause the f*ck??!


    What happened? Can we compare to last year's numbers or smth? cause :eyes: ...


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    This was from last year. I don't think the difference is that significant.

    Here is the comparison with last year. As I said, it's not really a huge drop since their Kfans were never that strong in the first place. Ive is not nominated for this category, they were replaced by Illit.

  • Do you have any spicy kpop predictions for 2024?

    Quote from icyruios

    Y'all better watch out for me in 2025. This was early Nov they are 1.9bil now and possibly 2bil before 2024 end


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    The gap is embarrassing pepe-ooh

  • Does stray kids is third most popular group in kpop after bts and blackpink?

    Quote from chanbinhan

    Are you aware of the fact that kpop isn't mainstream anywhere around the world cz it's simply kpop not English pop so yeah nobody listens to kpop other than kpop fans themselves. Only few kpop songs that got popular among the general public and 95% of the streams are coming from fans themselves. Among kpop fans Skz is indeed popular bjt if you're gonna talk about general public then nobody's popular maybe just V, jungkook, Jennie and Lisa.

    Meh, I live in SEA, where Kpop is huge, and even if people don’t listen to it, most know groups like Bts, Bp, Twice, BigBang, and Snsd. Their faces have been everywhere in ads and as brand models for years , and their hit songs are still super popular here. Plus, Korean variety shows were a thing for before around, which introduces these groups to public too.


    And we’re talking about group popularity here because, honestly, individual popularity isn’t even worth discussing. None of the Skz members are really known outside their fanbase (no offense, even as a kpop fan, the only one I know is Hyunjin, and that’s just because of that controversy).


    On the flip side, idols like GD, Karina, and Wonyoung, who are popular with the general public in Korea, have that ripple effect that makes a lot of non-fans recognize them. Then there’s Cha Eunwoo and a few other idols who’ve gone into acting, that a lot of people can recognise because Kdramas are way more popular and love than Kpop here among gp.