If Jungkook was here, would he have been able to stop the Roesanne Park - Bruno Mars Tsunami?

  • Would Jungkook have been able to stop the tsunami of Rose - Bruno Mars collabo? 24

    1. Yes (1) 4%
    2. No (23) 96%

    In 1813, after Napoleon's main army was defeated at Leipzig and virtually all of his allies deserted, some of them joining the other side, Napoleon had maybe 50,000 men, plus whatever could be scrapped inside of France, totaling no more than 100,000.


    eanwhile, forces from Russia, Austria, Prussia, Sweden and a bunch of smaller Germananic states, totalling about 500,000, entered Frane. It did not help that Wellington's forces in Spain was also sneaking in, although they were a bit away.


    With no more than 40,000 troops Napoleon held the allies at bay for 3 months, but a contingent sneaked near Paris and Marshal Marmont, perhaps exhausted after years of of war, surrendered the Capital to the enemies, ending the First Empire of France.


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    Someone named Jason Dudash published the book , called The Achievements of Kamala Harris, which is completely empty except for the preface.


    I don't hate Harris since she is more likely to be friendly to KPop than Trump.


    But I regret not writing a 1,000 page tome called the Contributions of IU towards the Advancement of KPop to the Entire World, except for the preface, would have been completely empty.


    The defeat of Jungkook by the combined forces of Taylor Swift, Drake, SZA, Doja Cat and the Beatles on last November was painful.


    However, as far as the world was concerned, he was more relevant than Bruno Mars, who was considered to be a has been.


    Despite of JK's defeat, the forces of Pop did not invade KPop in earnest, so from Dec 2023 to Oct 2024, there was a lull.


    But it seems with the help of Roseanne Park, OBE, a citizen of New Zealand, the coup de grace to polish off KPop appears to have occurred.


    As noted above, the singer who caused the most harm against KPop went hiding, while aespa and Illit, along with Day6, qwer and anyone you can name, have been swept away by this invasion of Bruno Mars.


    Worse, Roseanne will return in Dec with a new album, and more Pop stars will ravage KPop with the door opened by her.


    It seems the end of KPop is nigh (APT is not KPop, involving no Koreans at all), and as I have said a few times,


    BTS' return will probably not fare better than Napoleon's return attempt,


    now Rose and whoever she might bring on will be ready to crush it.


    I wonder if Jingkook, who did have clout outside of Korea, did NOT join the military and was there, Rose would have attempted this stunt and even if she did JK would have been able to stop it.


    Ot7 Ot7 Ot7 Ot7. Now Ot7 will have a high chance to be crushed by Rose & whoever, before Ot7 had a chance to leave Korea.


    If JK did not enlist there would be no Min Heejin rebellion, and no conquest of KPop by Bruno Mars.


    Whether APT wins #1 at Billboard or mot is irrelevant since it is not a KPop song. A semi permanent occupation of KPop by Pop has begun, with not too many ways to reverse it.

  • You're a bit off the mark. When Japan took on its imperialist ambitions prior to the beginning of the second World War, it had rapidly taken territories and put a stranglehold into the neighboring Chinese, Korea, and southeast Asian territories. It lapped up its lands and resources to fuel its ambitions as it spread, its own land incapable of sating its ego. As it reached its hands across Asia, it could only fuel its ambitions by reaching further and further. As its reach became unsustainable, its only recourse was to continue reaching and trying to take, but the more it took, the more it needed to sustain itself. And we all know what happened when it threatened to reach too far.


    Over 90 years later, we see another upstart from this area try to replicate imperialist Japan's reach, but they face the same wall that that continues to exist.


    The sleeping giant known as Pop rests on its laurels, its reach already expanded across the globe. Pop forces did not invade the land of K-pop during those years simply because the territory is too small to be worth the effort, and it has had no intention of doing so now. But don't let this fool anyone: if Pop wanted to, it would crush K-pop just as Imperial Japan was crushed not too long ago.


    And you've just witnessed some glimpses of that. The fact that a semi-retired force in the form of the Bruno Mars could uproot K-pop's brightest newcomers Karina merely simply by lending some ammunition to a relative Pop B-lister in Rose speaks volumes to what Pop can do to K-pop if it wishes to. While Pop has tolerated K-pop's reaching into surrounding areas so far, even a rumbling giant has been able to shake off most in-roads K-pop has made into Pop with its own blossoming Pop singers. Don't be confused: Pop is not as weak as Pseudo-Raggaeton.


    Jungkook would be wise to avoid a direct confrontation with Pop: he would easily be dispatched as was the combined BTS force back then. It's better to let sleeping dogs lie, especially because the hermit kingdoms of C-Pop and J-Pop may finally decide to place their foots down and re-exert dominance over K-pop again if they make too much noise.

  • The collapse of aespa and Illit, against this invasion of Pop, was amazing.


    Frankly speaking JK is the only one in Korea who might be able to put up a fight - no one can really do so.


    JPop is already making some intrusions into Korea, as seen in the concerts of Fujii Kaze, etc, and CPop was once popular in Korea during the early 1990s when Leslie Cheung was quite huge there.


    The whole edifice has shown its weakness so it could fall very quickly.

  • The story of Icarus has been re-told many times throughout history, but some refuse to heeds its lesson, believing themselves to be the exception to which it doesn't apply. K-pop may be in for a rude awakening if it continues to reach beyond its capabilities.

  • One sparrow does not make a summer, nor does one song a tsunami.


    If Rose does what Taylor Swift has done with Billboard or IU with Circle - occupying top ranks with multiple songs, over multiple week, then it is indeed a tsunami.


    Napolean would just say "meh"

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    But it seems with the help of Roseanne Park, OBE, a citizen of New Zealand, the coup de grace to polish off KPop appears to have occurred.


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    Technically, Roseanne Park is "only" an MBE, a MEMBER and not an OBE, an OFFICER of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Sorry, i was stunned to read on Wikipedia, APT's release, she even had a grade in the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire - so i had to chime in to say this.


    As for the rest, i think APT was a refreshing song that had nothing to do with any ongoing enlistments or drama in kpop circles; i think its just a contrast and a energetic banger(is that still what the kids say?)


    Its just what came out when Rosé and Bruno got together to put out a song together, its not rocket science(while i do read random/or posts elsewhere on historical warfare, sometimes at least. On a kpop forum is not where i choose to read such unless its related to former President of South Korea maybe and how the opening up of draconism led to the rise of kpop: which i wish i could find the unfinished history of kpop threads posted before the re-furb of akp).

  • One sparrow does not make a summer, nor does one song a tsunami.


    If Rose does what Taylor Swift has done with Billboard or IU with Circle - occupying top ranks with multiple songs, over multiple week, then it is indeed a tsunami.


    Napolean would just say "meh"

    This is like a paradigm shift where spotify and Billboard Hot 100 take a permanent superiority over Melon/Circle


    Not unlike Psy's transformation of Korean Pop which used to be oriented in Korea only before but began to look more for Billboard Recognition from then

  • Technically, Roseanne Park is "only" an MBE, a MEMBER and not an OBE, an OFFICER of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Sorry, i was stunned to read on Wikipedia, APT's release, she even had a grade in the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire - so i had to chime in to say this.


    As for the rest, i think APT was a refreshing song that had nothing to do with any ongoing enlistments or drama in kpop circles; i think its just a contrast and a energetic banger(is that still what the kids say?)


    Its just what came out when Rosé and Bruno got together to put out a song together, its not rocket science(while i do read random/or posts elsewhere on historical warfare, sometimes at least. On a kpop forum is not where i choose to read such unless its related to former President of South Korea maybe and how the opening up of draconism led to the rise of kpop: which i wish i could find the unfinished history of kpop threads posted before the re-furb of akp).

    APT basically finished off the 4th gen and the budding 5th gen so is very significant.


    aespa and Illit suddenly became irrelevant.


    With Rose's new album on Dec, the paradigm shift will only worsen as acts catering mostly to Korea and japan become much less relevant.

  • bsh will make song "inspired" by APT and make jk sing it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 7 days a week....

    Lol, I LOVE BTS & Jungkook, but this is SO TRUE with the pattern HYBE’s been setting recently, I can’t even deny it~! 😅 😂


    (And tbh even at the beginning of BTS’s career HYBE also made them copy many other groups~ when does he ever learn?!)

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    2NE1: "We paved the way...for everyone who is paving the way!"

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