Was there really bullying in April or not? I keep seeing two totally different loud sides to this story

    The cases with AOA and T-ara are pretty clear now where people opinions is quite united about their case, but I’m still confused about what went down with April even after years it happened. I didn’t follow it closely anymore so probably that's why too. Obviously now Naeun trying to get public on her side again. Suddenly after years, people close to her keep bringing the issue back up, and honestly, some of these “confessions” seem paid for. But anyway, I still don’t know if the bullying was actually real or not.


    Some say Hyunjoo was definitely bullied because all seven lawsuits filed by DSP and the April members against her brother were rejected by the court. And we know how easy it is to win defamation cases in Korea.


    But others argue that Chaewon’s case was actually accepted by the court, and it only got dropped because Hyunjoo didn’t want to go through with the investigation. So, they claim the court ruled it as the bullying is not true (as what the Kwaktube guy believe too, I guess). There’s also the claim that Hyunjoo lied about one of the members dating someone (I can’t remember who).


    So, what’s the truth? Naeun still gets a lot of hate from Knetz, probably because she’s the most popular and she's still fighting to clear her name, but at the same time, Hyunjoo is getting harassed in the comments on her IG while being m.i.a since forever.

    the truth???


    nobody knows the truth - hell I'm probably sure even the members themselves don't know the "truth"


    truth is distorted since everybody in a certain situation is biased


    even people with perfect recollection don't know what the truth is since it's one's interpretation of what the truth is


    two people listening to the same conversation, body language, tone etc etc may have completely different interpretations of that conversation

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    It's interesting that they couldn't prove themselves in 7 different lawsuits and appeals.


    What says there's something very wrong with them is how they talk about the time hyunjoo was gone from a suicide attempt as an inconvenience to them. And then the diary Naeuns dumb family leaked of her wanting hyunjoo to disappear


    T-ara is went from one extreme to the other public perception wise but it was a case of a hostile working environment that pushed a bunch of girls over the edge. There was no bully and not one of the 9 of them ever said there was one to begin with. Mina was mentally unstable and Jimin didn't deal with it. April made themselves look worse than hyunjoo ever could

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    I do believe there was bullying. Even Naeun's mother was mean to Hyunjoo on TV (!) and Naeun's sister got rumours too that she bullied others. From the way they treated and talked about her despite knowing that Hyunjoo attempted suicide it can be quite obvious imo that they bullied her. A normal human being wouldn't say that the person who tried to kill themselves is weak, especially not so openly, even if you dislike the person. A basic amount of empathy should make you at least second-guess if maybe yourself said or did something which wasn't nice (even if you did nothing wrong) and will make you shut up at least openly (to not harm the person further AND to protect one's own image by not being seen as the shameless cold person making fun of someone who tried to kill themselves).


    Naeun's family, the diary entry of Naeun and the way April reacted to knowing Hyunjoo tried to committed suicide don't make me doubt that they definitely tried to make her feel bad on purpose. If you add the tumbler and the shoes incidents and that Hyunjoo was really popular on the show The Unit and her group members of that project group all really like her even until now, I doubt Hyunjoo was the problem. I do think it escalated because they were jealous she was allowed to go home a lot and from then on one or two members started being mean and the other ones followed and they all bounded over having a common enemy they feel that doesn't deserve to have the "privileges".


    Naeun also profits a lot of a PR campaign right now. They try to get her back in the spotlight in a positive light since a year now. They even paid for her to attend a youtube show of a guy who (it seems like, I don't know him) was bullied and spoke up against bullying a lot and basically tried to make her seen like she wasn't a bully. Well, that guy lost his credibility and had to apologise for this. And all the things coming out in favour of April (and especially point out how good Naeun was to her members) suddenly and about for example staff members (I think it was a make up artist?) who shields April but at the same time talks like she was 24/7 there and knew what was going on even in their dorm etc. is just unbelievable. Naeun is under contract now of a famous actor agency and they try very hard to get her seen in a good light, so I wouldn't trust these random stories after all the things they literally showed themselves how they saw and treated Hyunjoo. April lost all 7 lawsuits and with every statement, where they wanted to defend themselves or get anyone else to defend them, they made themselves look even worse. I don't think I have ever seen a group looking worse each time they try to defend themselves as I saw with April

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    T-ara is went from one extreme to the other public perception wise but it was a case of a hostile working environment that pushed a bunch of girls over the edge.

    It was the Ryu Twins that lied about bullying, it had nothing to do with the work environment. Hwayoung is trash, she cost other members from jobs while her sister supported those lies.


    Eunjung was filming a Drama at the time but was "let go" due to the "Bullying Scandal"

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    It was the Ryu Twins that lied about bullying, it had nothing to do with the work environment. Hwayoung is trash, she cost other members from jobs while her sister supported those lies.


    Eunjung was filming a Drama at the time but was "let go" due to the "Bullying Scandal"

    Like I said, a lot of misinfo and one extreme to the other.


    Hwayoung never actually said she was being bullied. That was made up entirely by netizens although her sister did lean into it a bit. She denied it and none of T-ara actually wanted her kicked out. However, she wasn't forthcoming with her wrongdoing in the situation either.


    It was absolutely the hellscape that was MBK that created that situation. They were severely overworked, abused by staff, made to work through injuries and their CEO was openly adding more members in so none of them would feel safe and "get lazy" Their shenanigans are why they went from a successful company with 3 huge girl groups to falling out with most of their artists and barely surviving to this day


    It's not a surprise that t-ara eventually snapped

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    Article from the main page


    Hair stylist says Lee Hyunjoo had a "main character disease"
    "I’ve worked with countless celebrities, but I’ve never seen an idol group as kind as April."Hair stylist 'A,' who met with a r…
    www.allkpop.com

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    Funny enough, court records were leaked today and it shows that April sued her over 10 times, lost each one and texts implying April did know she'd made an attempt and still shit talked her.

    Naeun and her agency are getting dragged to filth for the mediaplay

    https://theqoo.net/hot/3426195444?page=3

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    Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

    Funny enough, court records were leaked today and it shows that April sued her over 10 times, lost each one and texts implying April did know she'd made an attempt and still shit talked her.

    Naeun and her agency are getting dragged to filth for the mediaplay

    https://theqoo.net/hot/3426195444?page=3

    Just adding for everyone not clicking on the link (I read a translation of it): someone feeling sorry for Hyunjoo leaked it. April sued Hyunjoo up until last year

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    Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

    Funny enough, court records were leaked today and it shows that April sued her over 10 times, lost each one and texts implying April did know she'd made an attempt and still shit talked her.

    Naeun and her agency are getting dragged to filth for the mediaplay

    https://theqoo.net/hot/3426195444?page=3

    :eewwcat: I have not been in the April fandom for a few years now since "Oh My Mistake" but WTF :angy5: Dude it seems these two just straight up do not like each other (Naeun and Hyunjoo) and are dragging everyone around them into this petty mess :plzprivacy: Former staff from both sides have come out defending certain members but Naeun is the one still filing paper work over and over? It honestly makes me think, Naeun had dislike for Hyunjoo, Hyunjoo felt singled out because of it and then acted out in reaction.


    All the other members end up just being collateral damage

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    Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

    Funny enough, court records were leaked today and it shows that April sued her over 10 times, lost each one and texts implying April did know she'd made an attempt and still shit talked her.

    Naeun and her agency are getting dragged to filth for the mediaplay

    https://theqoo.net/hot/3426195444?page=3

    I saw the translated article and I'm so surprised with how Naeun seems like a really bad person with how she is trying to change her image with just fake proofs, rumors and involving others like... Her agency is trash too for trying to make her a victim when it's clear how she isn't!

    Quote from crystalblues

    :eewwcat: I have not been in the April fandom for a few years now since "Oh My Mistake" but WTF :angy5: Dude it seems these two just straight up do not like each other and are dragging everyone around them into this petty mess :plzprivacy:

    It wasn't only the two. From what I remember it started with Somin, when she was still in April and not Kard, and Naeun seems to have joined her in on it and after this the other members followed

    Quote from someone00

    I saw the translated article and I'm so surprised with how Naeun seems like a really bad person with how she is trying to change her image with just fake proofs, rumors and involving others like... Her agency is trash too for trying to make her a victim when it's clear how she isn't!

    Like I said before, if you see how Naeun's family behaved, ot shouldn't be a surprise she is like them too. But the agency is so shameless and hurting their previously good inage by signing and faking evidence for her

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    Quote from Serala

    It wasn't only the two. From what I remember it started with Somin, when she was still in April and not Kard, and Naeun seems to have joined her in on it and after this the other members followed

    I have seen a lot of comments mainly expecting Somin because she was leader for her time in April, to take responsibility for the actions of everyone in her group even if it does turn out she was not directly attacking her. Which is a little ick as she does not control her members 1000%, now I do agree if she saw something and did not say anything, or was directly one of the ones who was the start of it, that is a huge problem.


    So far though the kpop census especially on Reddit and social media is that she may not have done the bullying herself but it was "her job" to stop it all, and if she did not successfully do so then it is her fault everyone else is falling apart now. Which I do not know if I completely agree with, yes as a leader she can disapprove of their behavior and ask them to stop but she does not get the final say so in what happens as repercussions etc. DSP does.

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    Quote from lidora

    Is there a translation?

    Part of it is on p***c***

    The court documents look pretty identical to the ones before. Inconclusive because it's all based on perspective. Main thing to know there is they filed 3 more lawsuits after they told the public they'd stop suing her



    And then contradicting this interview:

    "If you look at the article written by Lee Hyun-joo's younger brother, there is a part that says, "After the extreme choice, the members realized it and came to apologize." This is completely wrong. We have never seen or heard that Lee Hyun-joo made an extreme choice. Of course, we didn't know, so we didn't apologize either.


    Common sense tells us that if a team member made an extreme choice for some reason, who would turn a blind eye and ignore it? Of course, we would have gone to see him right away. However, we didn’t have cell phones and we never heard anything from the company at the time. We found out the details after the incident was brought to light."


    With these text messages to chaewon in August the year after:


    Manager(?): As far as I know, Hyunjoo had a hard time because of April, so it's hard for her to say it out loud... but I heard that she tried to die... So when she tried to talk to Hyun-joo about you, it seemed like Hyun-joo was really hurt, so it was hard to bring up the topic ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ So how about you apologize first and then bring it up??ㅠㅠ


    Chaewon: Hmm.. I'm also having trouble approaching first right now.. Other members are also watching, so I think I need to wait a little longer ㅠㅠ I also know this to some extent..

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