Hybe groups which are getting dragged/ hated on currently on Korean forums

there are legit things to say on the company but taking it out on groups is really annoying and they could blabber about criticizing hybe and not the groups themselves, it sure looks like it. Those bigbang and exo stans (the anti bangtan ones) coming from the ashes to revive the sajaegi accusations just reek of opportunism

All thanks to Hybe...

The way they drag Lsf and Bts into this mess makes everyone delve into everything about these two groups. Lsf is already receiving hate, but Hybe bringing Gfriend into it and blaming her and Nj for their disbandment, causing Mhj to respond to their mediaplays, really makes it worse for Lsf. Bts suddenly caught on fire when THEY ARE NOT EVEN ACTIVE CURRENTLY JUST BECAUSE HYBE CAN'T TAKE ALL THE HEAT BY THEMSELVES!

And thanks to Mhj for Illit...

They're the only group that she really drags, but gosh, they're only a 2-month-old group full of teenagers. She knows what will happen when she mentions them. I hope those girls didnt saw all the hates thrown towards them. They're still young in this industry and already getting massive hate.

Special Mention: Newjeans

They're not really getting dragged in Korean forums, but I-Armys and basically international Hybe stans are being vile towards them too. The hateful tweets, facebook posts and TT vids I saw with thousands to hundreds of thousands of likes, wishing really terrible things to happen to them, calling them greedy, ungrateful, rude, and even wishing them to death when it's not their fault, is a lot.

they are collateral damage, both for hybe and hybes ennemies.

and they made too much ennemies.

hybe is a threat to the whole industry. and even to some politiciens.

In the international side, most of the hate are coming from Twitter.

For example, on Facebook, most are just excited that Jin will be back in 39 days. It's been a while since we had a BTS member outside the military.

Shows how people will ride any kind of drama just to drag and hate groups. Public bullying for real.

I can't even follow the case between MHJ and BSH. People are on warpath with all kind of rumors and takes. Hard to find factual articles. Sadly I am not korean so I am waiting on how it plays out. I hope there will be enough sense in people to not ruin innocent idols for fun and giggles.

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there are legit things to say on the company but taking it out on groups is really annoying and they could blabber about criticizing hybe and not the groups themselves, it sure looks like it. Those bigbang and exo stans (the anti bangtan ones) coming from the ashes to revive the sajaegi accusations just reek of opportunism

Those are definitely not BB stans... We all know where those accusations are coming from... Mhj

And kinda funny that NJ are the only ones given the victim status

I think a massive purge would happen among hybe executives, there is no other way around it, they will pull hairs of each other and remove people from board. Maybe bang would have to rightly step down and work just as producer or song writer and stay as a founder's list.

If they do so fast then they save cost and their image and don't have to give more public apologies, it would fix their image and most importantly stop baseless attacks on their groups.

Also if they can step aside their egos and step down now, then they can wait for court order which would more than likely in their favour and royally f*** min heejin, put on a defamation in Korea and us and make her show up in multiple courts in multiple countries and dry up all her savings until she remembers "these middle age men" are scary to play with and why no one actually did "what she did in 30 years what she did in kpop industry" (her words not mine).

Atleast that's how I would do it, i would have my career even after stepping down and have a say under back doors but letting her win like that, with her masterful manipulation and timing would scar me for life. But people usually get stupidier the more success they get, like it's funny that same guy said (i read it yesterday in a thread) that we can't do manipulation because we don't have enough money.

seventeen wouldn't have been in articles and forums if their Japanese fans hadn't dumped hundreds of copies of their latest album in the streets of Shibuya for the world to see (and for Japanese citizens to have to properly dispose of). Everyone knows bulk buying exists in kpop, just be discrete about it.

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I hope it all gets sort out before his return and hate just dies down. it is hell on korean forums tbh, multiple articles in a day digging years old shit. people hate on pannch** admin for posting translation articles but she is not translating even half of the shit going on korean forums related to bts and lsfm.

I hope that it does get sort out. It sucks just thinking that he might face all of this alone.

LSFM: Yunjin being American

BTS: For appearing in US shows/stages aka western validation, for writing meaningful lyrics, for not being from Big 3 company and still being much much more successful than everyone’s faves

SVT: for having 13 members not 17

Hybe Hating Partyyy

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not sure about details but bang pd has already stepped down from CEO position almost 2 years ago to focus on writing and production. he is not CEO anymore.

I am not sure about the details tho, can someone correct me if I am wrong

Now board members list then, stepping down will make min's case null and void. They are fighting a narrative war not a legal one, legally they are sound, all the allegations and what not have to proven in court and that would be hard and very time consuming, min and team can't burn through that and hybe can freeze cash flow any moment inbetween. If hybe guys apologize to fans and rightly step down key members every thing will very easy for them, but sadly they are doing their pathetic paid media thing which they clearly don't have any experience with and in such situations even most ridiculous claim against them seem real, all in all with rapid expansion and modular structure they hired some of the most inexperienced people for these situations as the people they hired might be professionals according to usual company structure, but not this modular bs.

Newpants!

Crimelist: Minji being so pretty

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it could be a mixture of both. with MHJ side and bts antis both coming out together to dig theses cases. Not blaming VIPs, but every popular group has a large amount of antis in rival fandoms which start acting up over a smallest chance.

To me newjeans always seems like the best kept, best promoted and well rested out of all the other hybe groups but now suddenly knetz have given them the status of mistreated step child of hybe

There are antis everywhere. The point is they are not the source which is trying hard to dig out things and start hate train.

Agree about the NJ part

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Knetz were calling her that for real

You forgot TWS and Zico also catching strays

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For lsfm, MHJ has a lot of hand in it, she has mentioned them plenty of times, and the way she talks abut sakura, it feels like a personal problem to me. She even mentioned them in last Ador statement where there was no need of it at all.

tbh korean gp seems to be very fond of newjeans and mhj right now, but this could also prove very dangerous if they ends up with hybe, I am afraid people will turn on them. and this is why I have problem with MHJ, she has integrated herself into newjeans so much that gp and most of their fans feels like there would be no newjeans if she left.

this whole is fight is two edged sword for newjeans members, if they goes to hybe, there is possibility of losing their concept and gp, if they ends up with MHJ (assuming hybe will let them go without a lawsuit) all the hybe connections and money will be gone, unless MHJ has some really powerful investor with her

Yes, I understand the part about Lsf, but it started because Hybe used them against her which triggering her. She used Lsf back to retaliate. She mentioned them in her statement, is actually necessary for her image (not ethical tho). She wants to show that she's the reason why Nj is here now, when they were almost becoming just another failed project like TraineeA. Her problem first is not with Lsf, but Illit. So when Hybe used Lsf as their pawn to attack her, she obviously wouldn't let it go. Mhj is easy to read at this, when Hybe trying to damaging her gg reputation, she gives that back to them. Still this is on Hybe for me.

The thing is, Nj is not even 2 years old. So it's not really suprising that fans feel like that, bc Ador is more independent, Mhj come out with a really good concept and the girls seems to be treated better than other Hybe groups. And their fans believe that Hybe is the evil one too. Back then, with BTS, it was like this too, and actually still is for many Armys with Bsh even when Bts is already this big. So they're defending him so much now. At the end of the day, everyone will forget whoever is behind the songs and concepts if they're good. And from what I see, K-netz mostly understand that Newjeans didn't have power over their contract too. This is an international Hybe stans problem, not them.

as illit hate its not surprising, bc mhj name drop them first

the lsfrm and bts hate its all on her, specially the sakura one

using bts is the easiest way too, bc they 1) have nothing to do with this 2) are hybe biggest act

And you know, this makes me hate Hybe even more. They're deleting tons of articles about themselves and any positive posts about MHJ on Korean forums and other media platforms, yet they never bother doing it for their groups. They know how to do it, yet they decided to use their groups to cover up any hate and criticism towards the company!

Has no one noticed that many articles are only about Hybe's groups, but rarely about the company itself? I visit Theqoo, Pann, Instiz, and even Korean news sites, and I'm surprised by how quickly Hybe works to delete a lot of negative articles about them. When some speculate that Hybe is doing this to shift attention from themselves to their groups, I actually believe it. It's weird that BTS suddenly became the center of this just over some speculation.

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did not see anything about TWS but I saw zico getting hate because he did dance challenge with illit and lsfm and not with newjeans

Rationally thinking if I were zico, I would want to make a challenge with newjeans because they are more popular. like How does these people know it was zicos fault and not Adors doing, Tbh I have not seen newjeans collabing much with other hybe artists before except bts

zico got hate on kside for saying that he was in support of the label system in Hybe, they used an interview he gave before this drama and used it to drag him and claim it is Hybe mediaplay.

TWS were dragged for plagiarising NewJeans alongwith Illit IIRC.

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And you know, this makes me hate Hybe even more. They're deleting tons of articles about themselves and any positive posts about MHJ on Korean forums and other media platforms, yet they never bother doing it for their groups. They know how to do it, yet they decided to use their groups to cover up any hate and criticism towards the company!

Has no one noticed that many articles are only about Hybe's groups, but rarely about the company itself? I visit Theqoo, Pann, Instiz, and even Korean news sites, and I'm surprised by how quickly Hybe works to delete a lot of negative articles about them. When some speculate that Hybe is doing this to shift attention from themselves to their groups, I actually believe it. It's weird that BTS suddenly became the center of this just over some speculation.

I have seen a very shady post on Bang PD getting deleted from The Qoo in real time in like 10 minutes of being posted while not one article bashing BTS has been deleted from Qoo, I even have screenshots of it.....there is a reason Karmys do not like him and distrust him but some iArmys are such sheep and trust him blindly

See this, the Signal Entertainment article......I saw this posted and was waiting for comments to become accessible on Qoo

And when I refreshed the page on that thread a few minutes later I got this

And then I went to main page and it disappeared from The Qoo like it never existed

The shamelessness that LSFM was being bashed in 3 separate articles at the exact same time but the Hybe staff only took down the Bang PD one.

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as illit hate its not surprising, bc mhj name drop them first

the lsfrm and bts hate its all on her, specially the sakura one

using bts is the easiest way too, bc they 1) have nothing to do with this 2) are hybe biggest act

Lsf was getting roasted by knetz and the media even before her press conference.

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as illit hate its not surprising, bc mhj name drop them first

the lsfrm and bts hate its all on her, specially the sakura one

using bts is the easiest way too, bc they 1) have nothing to do with this 2) are hybe biggest act

It has been very sus to me as to how that judge's verdict suddenly became public and someone found it on Kakotalk just 2 days after her presscon. Assuming that judgement was not public before, only a top level exec insider from Hybe who had access to the verdict could leak it.

Also very sus that at the exact same time cult rumours were spun so brilliantly to drag all Hybe groups as complicit but make a victim out of one and trying to show that only MHJ wanted to escape from it and take Newjeans alongwith her using their MVs as a reference.

If Hybe is doing mediaplay, she is not far behind either and people unable to see that are just well....

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It has been very sus to me as to how that judge's verdict suddenly became public and someone found it on Kakotalk just 2 days after her presscon. Assuming that judgement was not public before, only a top level exec insider from Hybe who had access to the verdict could leak it.

Also very sus that at the exact same time cult rumours were spun so brilliantly to drag all Hybe groups as complicit but make a victim out of one and trying to show that only MHJ wanted to escape from it and take Newjeans alongwith her using their MVs as a reference.

she is the 2b won savior

apparently

Le Sserafim should stop promoting in Korea like what's the point anymore when they get hated for every single thing they do there. Focus globally and prove some insane people wrong for debuting as Hybe first ever girl group since they all still seething about that to date.

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