I watched BabyMonster performance and......

Yeah, the choreography is really bad, I know their good dancers because of their pre-debut performances, so I don't know why YG is giving them this basic and messy choreo.

The choreo looked better on the mv

Maybe they chose some impractical moves when they created it and then had to change

It's a common thing with yg to keep changing it though, from what I remember

All those paragraphs to say “I’m mad they outperformed aespa “

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All those paragraphs to say “I’m mad they outperformed aespa “

Aespa could do Batter Up but could Babymonster do Drama?

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Aespa could do Batter Up but could Babymonster do Drama?

Pretty sure Aespa would faint if you asked them to give even half the energy needed to perform batter up

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Pretty sure Aespa would faint if you asked them to give even half the energy needed to perform batter up

What energy Babymonster was doing nothing out of the ordinary, even Aespa could do those basic dance moves

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What energy Babymonster was doing nothing out of the ordinary, even Aespa could do those basic dance moves

charisma ik it’s a foreign concept since you stan Aespa

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charisma ik it’s a foreign concept since you stan Aespa

Aespa has improved their stage presence and charisma you're stuck in the past #stopbeinghateful

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All those paragraphs to say “I’m mad they outperformed aespa “

LOL i actually think about this too

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Aespa could do Batter Up but could Babymonster do Drama?

isnt batter up a harder choreo than drama???? like all the jumping, mopping floor, and leg lifting?

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isnt batter up a harder choreo than drama???? like all the jumping, mopping floor, and leg lifting?

it's pretty easy imo

Aespa could do it easily.

Is BM even competing for the same target market? If Aespa were doing teen crush then yes.

But Aespa is going for the experimental music market.

Drag them SooYoung

But i agree, i think the no music shows announcement shows insecurity from YG. Initpicked Giselle to hell during debut, but i was only allow to do that, because SM released dance practices and went to music shows, with fixed camera’s and fancams to see mistakes/differences.

Baemon isn’t even polished enough to do that, and the switching choreography???

YG was just very unprepared to debut and it’s interesting because he delayed them for so long.

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I think they are not doing a good job at executing choreo

If u focus on the redhead (Chiquita?) the choreo looks fine

Red Head is Ruka. She is the main dancer and oldest member in the group.

Wow, people resorting to deflecting and shading other groups just because they dislike OP and dislike 1 of their bias groups getting criticised even for the slightest thing => because criticism on the choreo, come on, what are we even talking about

Some people are way too sensitive.

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But i agree, i think the no music shows announcement shows insecurity from YG. Initpicked Giselle to hell during debut, but i was only allow to do that, because SM released dance practices and went to music shows, with fixed camera’s and fancams to see mistakes/differences.

Baemon isn’t even polished enough to do that, and the switching choreography???

YG was just very unprepared to debut and it’s interesting because he delayed them for so long.

I noticed this too, it's an YG habit.

As soon as YG or his people think attending a music show - or any show - wouldn't boost a group's image or could even result in a negative impact on a group's image, they simply won't let their groups attend.

Like how in the past they didn't let their groups attend a music show where they weren't sure they'd win that show - because standing on that stage while being 2nd and another group wins would make them look like 'losers'.

ygx sucks

I dont think is the choreo. Is just they are not too strong in dancing. Good thing they are very young and can improve in the next comebacks

Sounds like madness! I'm glad I haven't watched any BM anything

When did Babymonster outperform Aespa?

The choreographer is Silvergun of YGX

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When did Babymonster outperform Aespa?

outside Korea, BM has better numbers

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outside Korea, BM has better numbers

BM seem to be already beating Ive globally. Ive globally flopped with the 3 Baddie title tracks. Don't know about Aespa.

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BM are definitely already beating Ive globally. Ive globally flopped with the 3 Baddie title tracks. Don't know about Aespa.

BM has better numbers outside korea in Spotify, Youtube, Itunes than Aespa in their debut.

BM's potential is huge imo, they have solid fanbases in SEA, Japan and China already

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The choreographer is Silvergun of YGX

no she isn't there is another choreographer who was the main choreographer Chae-da-som I don't think all her choreo parts made it. I think the reason why the choroegraphy is a bit messy it's because many choreographers are involved

I know some collab but they usually have worked together and aren't many in this case even YGX choreographers are in it lol

I personally think leejung would have made a better job her choreos have a key point and tend to be more clean

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outside Korea, BM has better numbers

Aespa is doing better on Spotify than Babymonster

A more Hip-Hop like choreography with the right amount of swag would've been wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better

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Aespa is doing better on Spotify than Babymonster

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debut!! The numbers are close even BM just debuted over Aespa who is in the industry for 3 years already

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BM has better numbers outside korea in Spotify, Youtube, Itunes than Aespa in their debut.

BM's potential is huge imo, they have solid fanbases in SEA, Japan and China already

BM has potential but they are not bigger than Aespa yet.

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I think they are not doing a good job at executing choreo

If u focus on the redhead (Chiquita?) the choreo looks fine

the choreo is a mess if you see other dance performances they had made before their debut you'll see a difference

I don't what they were thinking with hiring izone choreographer for this and adding many choreographers I don't think having too many choreographers is a good idea at most 2 or 3

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no she isn't there is another choreographer who was the main choreographer Chae-da-som I don't think all her choreo parts made it. I think the reason why the choroegraphy is a bit messy it's because many choreographers are involved

I know some collab but they usually have worked together and aren't many in this case even YGX choreographers are in it lol

I personally think leejung would have made a better job her choreos have a key point and tend to be more clean

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I see. Because Silvergun is doing Batter Up classes in YGX studio. Thanks for the info though

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debut!!

Dude, Aespa and IVE's debut did better internationally in the beginning than NewJeans, but we all know which group is the biggest internationally now.

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Dude, Aespa and IVE's debut did better internationally in the beginning than NewJeans, but we all know which group is the biggest internationally now.

The numbers are for 4th and 5th gen btw

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BM has potential but they are not bigger than Aespa yet.

I never said that though. I said they have better numbers during their debut days

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Dude, Aespa and IVE's debut did better internationally in the beginning than NewJeans, but we all know which group is the biggest internationally now.

yeah but you know why anyways I think is good that baemon is doing good internationally I hope they'll do better in korea with their comeback

^ I've been arguing for a long time, it doesn't really matter how you do in Korea. Twice and Stray Kids definitely don't. Its not like BP spend a lot of time promoting there too. 50 50 with Cupid too was a hit globally and was only #10 in Korea. For these older groups I think Korea is only less than 2% of their revenue.

Maybe YG has decided not to spend any time and money to promote BM in Korea.

I mean why waste 2-3 years in Korea before you push globally. They already seem to be beating Ive globally now, as they seem to be holding so its unlikely they will flop down to way below 650k daily.