If Fifty Fifty wins a Grammy award, that is the end of KPop

On 1532, the conquistador Francisco Pizzaro , in a chance account, met the Sapa (Emperor) Inca, Atahualpa. Thinking A was someone of importance, Pizarro captured A.

It was found that Atahualpa was the ruler of all Incans, and only he had the power to command all Incan forces. Pizarro entered the Incan capital , with the Sapa Inca as a hostage, and no forces could be raised to fight back the tiny forces of Pizarro, numbering only a few hundred.

Pizarro seized all the treasures of the Incan Empire, killed Atahualpa and put a chap named Tupac Amaru a puppet ruler. (Yes, 2pac is named after him.)

Tupac Amaru later launched a rebellion against the Spanish but was killed. 200 years later, a descendant of the first Tupac styled himself Tupac Amaru II and launched a new rebellion, but was also killed. 200 odds years after the second Tupac was killed, someone who used the moniker of Tupac met a violent end, although he did contribute to Kpop by posthumously writing and composing g.o.d's "To Mother".

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The Grammys denied BTS an award, which would have justified its military exemption and silence all the crazed conservative politicians and jealous incels, and made Hybe over 10 billion. I have written many, many times that BTS would not recover.

If the Grammys give Fifty Fifty an award, that is the end of KPop. Finish, fin, done, kaput, konets, owari, zhongzhi, Kkeut.

That invalidates everything Kpop has done. Now K-O-R-E-A has to treat FF like a royalty, even if they never have another hit, since a Grammy trumps everything in there.

It also exposes all these huge album sales as being shallow shells.

IU and Lim Youngwoong were threats against Kpop by trying to do that but at least both kind of played in some kind of rules and they were not relevant outside of K-O-R-E-A so whatever they did did not catch the attention of international fans.

However, if FF wins a Grammy award while BTS and everyone else in KPop didn't, FF becomes superior to everyone else. It will wield a power unprecedented in the history f KPop and will probably end the system which was built for 20 plus years in one single shot.

KPop becomes irrelevant, a few companies will try the FF way and will go nowhere, and it returns to a provincial genre mostly relegated to Asia.

Quote from Michael-6

no it will help KPOP overall recognition internationally

if Cupid get the grammy award

finally a KPOP a true legit song
without carried by popular artist /fandom power? /meme joke like Gangnam style?
and from a nugu group

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Which won't carry major companies. It will just create a few copycats trying to replicate this and go nowhere.

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They won't but I do love the fantastical, historically ravaging idea of all the years of K-Pop strategy and insular politics being flushed down the drain through the power of one really cute disco-pop song that, god forbid, bypassed fandom for a general audience.

The companies should swallow their pride and start think about making hits instead of selling 20 versions of an EP that no one is even playing.

There's a lot to be learned here! 💡

As most people here know, I have followed IU since 2012 and she was the biggest threat against Kpop for so many years.

The most critical moment was 2014 when she was to win a MAMA and finish off the idol tradition, but MAMA gave her a Lifetime Achievement Award , instead of a Grand Prize which would have cemented her top position, making her ineligible for a MAMA Grand Prize for the rest of her life.

She responded by releasing the controversial Zeze in late 2015, in her most experimental album to this day, Chatshire, which put her out of Kpop for a while.

Unlike MAMA , Grammys won't care whether Kpop lives or dies. FF winning a Grammy means the delegitimation of all Kpop activities. All these sales and views become irrelevant.

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I just don't feel like any particular group has a responsibility to keep K-pop going, and that includes BTS who have defied the rules of K-Pop many times (and ironically probably only gained K-Pop more fans by doing so.)

There's a lot to be said for opening up the playing field to all types of strategies moving forward.

there's going to be groups that are entirely fandom-carried, but there needs to be room for groups who also are connecting with a mixed global audience beyond fandom. The top groups will only get bigger by landing a GP hit (BTS has already proven this many times!). The companies need to evolve to survive.

Since Attrakt, FF's company, is too tiny to really do anything on its own, Warner Music will probably run it for all practical purposes and it is a huge threat against KPop's current structure.

That becomes the beginning of the end of all KPop companies and the opening of Korean Pop to American interest, making it Americanized and bland

Which is why all companies are watching FF's journey with concern

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The cost benefit ratio is not worth it for a company. A digital hit is meaningless to a company's bottom line, you're getting pennies for it, the only way it's financially worthwhile to hustle for a GP hit with zero fandom support is if you can guarantee follow up digital hits, and then become known for more than just your 'one hit wonder". History is littered with hundreds, maybe thousands of one hit wonders that never went anywhere and eventually disbanded and faded into history.

Fandoms will always be the safest, most reliable, most stable option for companies and idols. Get fans emotionally invested in you and they will follow you to the ends of the Earth, look at how even old ass groups like BTS, Twice, RV, EXO, Seventeen, soon BP and NCT who are now 7 years old, etc are just stacking album sales and printing money well past the peak of most Kpop groups.

Best option for a Kpop group is to be able to chart in the 50-100 of Hot 100, top 40ish on Global Spotify, top 10 in Japan, and have guaranteed 1-2M in album sales every comeback. Not a real digimon outside of Asia, but have enough recognition to do tours globally, and earn a few solid CFs while they're at it.

Such was the model, but if FF breaks into the top 5 and somehow obtains a grammy, that shows all these KPop groups going for that strategy is now inferior to it and exposes a huge weakenss.

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Gosh you're so melodramatic

KPop is nothing without melodrama

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It's pretty obvious to me that y'all are just pressed that FF is even eligible to win a Grammy and could very well win since their song is very popular amongst locals all over the world compared to any of BTS's English songs because if we go by your logic, Kpop would have "ended" if BTS had actually won a Grammy, but I didn't see anyone saying that about them when they were nominated for a Grammy.

This post also just goes to show how much y'all care about breaking records rather than the actual music itself, which is sad because what happened to enjoying the music for the music?

Fifty Fifty is basically the ultimate anti-KPop song, not using any KPop formulas, marketing strategy, fandom (most of its 'fandom' are these of acts who don't go to the billboard using it to shade their faves' rivals), etc.

If it wins a Grammy it completely invalidates everything KPop had done over the last 25 years.

The entire achievement of KPop is about to be exposed and destroyed.

I see KPop as an imperial conquest, and so I pay much less attention to music, I personally do not hate FF's songs. Cupid is enjoyable to hear. their K-O-R-E-A-N songs much less so , so I deduced they will turn full Pop, get rid of their rappers and severe all ties with K-O-R-E-A; But they do present an existential danger to KPop.

Quote from Fluffers

hasn't yknock made this exact same thread for 3 different artists?

A lot of fluff to say a bunch of nothing.

In my height at AKP , around 2012-14, I wrote 2 IU posts per day. For 2 1/4 years.

Quote from paradis

You dumb? What are you shading BTS for when Op is a known BTs anti..clown

You all have made hating BTS and armys your whole personality like other clowns on this thread.

I am not anti to BTS. I just criticized why they threw away their world empire and they are unlikely to go too far if they organize a comeback in 2026.

My target since 2012 has been the person on the left of this post , and the only reason I am not talking about her latel y is because she has released nothing for a while.

Quote from nevermindmejin

It never fails to amazed on how much ARMYs meant so much to kpoppies. How we act, react and feel.. I don’t think you care this much about your faves

*Users here taking the opportunity to hate on BTS because of a known BTS anti made a thread that use fifty fifty as bait. Not sure if you guys are that gullible or just love to hate.

Well, my primary target is not BTS.