Is the era of Chinese idols fleeing to China over?
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Fleeing as in going to China before their contract is over and not participating in group promotions
Kris is still Chinese by close heritage so he was able to easily work in China and be successful there while committing crimes
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Fleeing as in going to China before their contract is over and not participating in group promotions
Kris is still Chinese by close heritage so he was able to easily work in China and be successful there while committing crimes
add on to that he was also born in china.
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The answer is pretty obvious, Kpop is much more lucrative than it used to be thanks to international popularity.
Back then when dudes like Luhan and Tao left, they already experienced the peak of Kpop in the shortest amount of time, so moving to China was actually a career growth, you were entering the market of 1 billion people.
But now Kpop groups can tour the whole world, get recognition in the west, win awards, top charts, become worldwide brand ambassadors, so many opportunities.
I bet all those who left actually regret it now. I bet even Chinese fans and netizens regret it, knowing how big their national pride is.
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of course not lol
the iron rice bowl is still very much alive!!!
and returning home to promote has the added benefit of more familiar language, culture, family etc etc
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The answer is pretty obvious, Kpop is much more lucrative than it used to be thanks to international popularity.
Back then when dudes like Luhan and Tao left, they already experienced the peak of Kpop in the shortest amount of time, so moving to China was actually a career growth, you were entering the market of 1 billion people.
But now Kpop groups can tour the whole world, get recognition in the west, win awards, top charts, become worldwide brand ambassadors, and so many opportunities.
I bet all those who left regret it now. I bet even Chinese fans and netizens regret it, knowing how big their national pride is.
I think K-pop's global power has increased so much since 2014, it used to be China offered so much more potential for wealth and fame but I don't think that's true anymore. At least if you're in an A-List group or whatever.
When it comes to earnings, Chinese idols and Korean ones promoting in China still make the most money of them all.
There is no kpop idol making as much as Lay, Luhan and Tao right now. Firstly, remember that they no longer share their money with any label and have been very independent since 2015, even for Lay, the moment those 3 left, there were changes to his contract especially when he moved to China. So, in China, they are in charge, they have more creative freedom and mostly have their own studios instead of signing to labels, therefore all the money they make goes to them. For the ex-Exo members, it has been almost 10 years now of making lots of money..
Each has tens of brand deals, always on the cover of multiple magazines per month, that pay them way better in a market of a billion people, than what kpop idols get paid. And, some of those are global deals, from China to the world.
They are only behind Jackie Chan and sometimes on the same level in earnings. Jackie was the most-paid celebrity in China for decades. They each make over $30 million a year without considering their private business earnings. Each has a studio, Lay has his label and a boy group while Luhan has a clothing brand, Tao has his businesses too and each produces most of their content.
For a kpop idol to make $30 million, they have to tour the world, while in China, brand deals alone can earn one idol that much.
Chinese money is much more than we think. Imagine Yoona got paid about $2 million for a single drama as a first time rookie actress in China, so how much do more experienced acts earn? And, Korean celebrities with brand deals in China get paid millions of dollars for each brand deal.
Another good example is Jessica who is a monster rookie on China's TV and was paid around $100,000 per episode for her first show (she's definitely making more than that now) in variety shows yet the best-paid entertainers in Korea like Lee Jae Suk who top Gallup rankings make around $10,000 per episode in Korea. That is so big a difference.
China still offers a bigger money alone. Idols have to combine sales from different countries to get the same level of sales in China for one activity.
Imo, the best-paying careers are in China, Japan (for concerts and merch) and then the world.
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When it comes to earnings, Chinese idols and Korean ones promoting in China still make the most money of them all.
There is no kpop idol making as much as Lay, Luhan and Tao right now. Firstly, remember that they no longer share their money with any label and have been very independent since 2015, even for Lay, the moment those 3 left, there were changes to his contract especially when he moved to China. So, in China, they are in charge, they have more creative freedom and mostly have their own studios instead of signing to labels, therefore all the money they make goes to them. For the ex-Exo members, it has been almost 10 years now of making lots of money..
Each has tens of brand deals, always on the cover of multiple magazines per month, that pay them way better in a market of a billion people, than what kpop idols get paid. And, some of those are global deals, from China to the world.
They are only behind Jackie Chan and sometimes on the same level in earnings. Jackie was the most-paid celebrity in China for decades. They each make over $30 million a year without considering their private business earnings. Each has a studio, Lay has his label and a boy group while Luhan has a clothing brand, Tao has his businesses too and each produces most of their content.
For a kpop idol to make $30 million, they have to tour the world, while in China, brand deals alone can earn one idol that much.
Chinese money is much more than we think. Imagine Yoona got paid about $2 million for a single drama as a first time rookie actress in China, so how much do more experienced acts earn? And, Korean celebrities with brand deals in China get paid millions of dollars for each brand deal.
Another good example is Jessica who is a monster rookie on China's TV and was paid around $100,000 per episode for her first show (she's definitely making more than that now) in variety shows yet the best-paid entertainers in Korea like Lee Jae Suk who top Gallup rankings make around $10,000 per episode in Korea. That is so big a difference.
China still offers a bigger money alone. Idols have to combine sales from different countries to get the same level of sales in China for one activity.
Imo, the best-paying careers are in China, Japan (for concerts and merch) and then the world.
All this text, all for nothing. We don't know how much either of them makes. This is all just speculation.
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Imo, the best-paying careers are in China, Japan (for concerts and merch) and then the world.
i think i agree with you but do you have an answer as of why kpop groups always make japanese debuts and comebacks ? especially since china is a much bigger and obvious choice for money grubbing, but we rarely hear groups that make chinese debuts. chinese version of the song, yes sometimes, but japan is a much popular choice. even seventeen with 2 chinese members and literally 0 japanese have had several japanese comebacks.
forgive my demographically ignorant ass if the answer is obvious lmao
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When it comes to earnings, Chinese idols and Korean ones promoting in China still make the most money of them all.
There is no kpop idol making as much as Lay, Luhan and Tao right now. Firstly, remember that they no longer share their money with any label and have been very independent since 2015, even for Lay, the moment those 3 left, there were changes to his contract especially when he moved to China. So, in China, they are in charge, they have more creative freedom and mostly have their own studios instead of signing to labels, therefore all the money they make goes to them. For the ex-Exo members, it has been almost 10 years now of making lots of money..
Each has tens of brand deals, always on the cover of multiple magazines per month, that pay them way better in a market of a billion people, than what kpop idols get paid. And, some of those are global deals, from China to the world.
They are only behind Jackie Chan and sometimes on the same level in earnings. Jackie was the most-paid celebrity in China for decades. They each make over $30 million a year without considering their private business earnings. Each has a studio, Lay has his label and a boy group while Luhan has a clothing brand, Tao has his businesses too and each produces most of their content.
For a kpop idol to make $30 million, they have to tour the world, while in China, brand deals alone can earn one idol that much.
Chinese money is much more than we think. Imagine Yoona got paid about $2 million for a single drama as a first time rookie actress in China, so how much do more experienced acts earn? And, Korean celebrities with brand deals in China get paid millions of dollars for each brand deal.
Another good example is Jessica who is a monster rookie on China's TV and was paid around $100,000 per episode for her first show (she's definitely making more than that now) in variety shows yet the best-paid entertainers in Korea like Lee Jae Suk who top Gallup rankings make around $10,000 per episode in Korea. That is so big a difference.
China still offers a bigger money alone. Idols have to combine sales from different countries to get the same level of sales in China for one activity.
Imo, the best-paying careers are in China, Japan (for concerts and merch) and then the world.
maybe they just really crave that global fame then, or just being able to tour the world and having big audiences come out and see them.
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maybe they just really crave that global fame then, or just being able to tour the world and having big audiences come out and see them.
They mostly seem comfortable in China. I mean, Luhan and Tao and most other Chineses idols that debuted in Korea first haven't tried to go global except Lay, Jackson and I don't know who?
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Forbes China calls them out every year. Also, their brand deals, movies, dramas and album sales don't lie. Lay has one of the most sold Chinese album of all time and over 30 cf deals, a number of which are global deals.
And when they sell out all the products endorsed and their videos and content get millions and billions of views, it proves their success. Anything about Jessica, videos, articles, photos etc get hundreds of million views on Weibo now.
In less than a year since she started promoting in China, Jessica already opened 3 stores for her clothing brand in 3 different cities.
i think i agree with you but do you have an answer as of why kpop groups always make japanese debuts and comebacks ? especially since china is a much bigger and obvious choice for money grubbing, but we rarely hear groups that make chinese debuts. chinese version of the song, yes sometimes, but japan is a much popular choice. even seventeen with 2 chinese members and literally 0 japanese have had several japanese comebacks.
forgive my demographically ignorant ass if the answer is obvious lmao
Lmao! Clearly, you are new to kpop.
To answer your question, China doesn't fully allow Kpop, they don't have a healthy political relationship with Korea. So many Korean labels don't bother working with Chinese idols. In fact, they banned Kpop completely from around 2016/17 and only eased the regulations a bit recently. That is why, Lay who had chosen to stay with Exo was forced to go back home for safety and freedom to promote reasons. And before all the political tension, many Kpop acts had tours in China. TVXQ and Exo sold out stadiums in China which is not the case now. And, Exo always released two albums with every comeback, a Korean and Chinese version for their first 3 or 4 albums.
Meanwhile in Japan, Kpop is very welcome. BoA and TVXQ made it mainstream so whoever promotes right succeeds in Japan.
Also, compared to China, concerts are a culture in Japan which is why they have way more concert venues than any other Asian country I know of. And, albums, merch and concert tickets always cost more in Japan thus bringing in a lot of money.
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