Which one in better position now between Aespa and Itzy?

Better position in which metric? Aespa seems to be more consistent on k-charts but Sneakers had a better peak. Internationally, Aespa has better sales but Itzy has better views.

Personally, I think Aespa is in a better position but objectively (based on numbers) both are pretty similar.

Lmao why people still understimated aespa? Isn’t they a like second to ive for the total of digital point in gaon circle this year alone????

Mys gonna say Aespa and midzys Itzy

To me, Idk. Aespa or Itzy may come out with some mega hit no idea next cb but it’s the consistent hits and sales that we shd look out for

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Lmao why people still understimated aespa? Isn’t they a like second to ive for the total of digital point in gaon circle this year alone????

cause they barely passed rookie stage, and SM is already pulling some bs

i think aespa. they lost a little momentum with all the girl groups that debuted recently but they can still come back with a huge hit.

i think they are not even comparable.

ITZY has always been strong on international streaming (youtube and spotify) but lately they arent doing well on both these metrics, which means they lose their strong point.

Aespa on the other hand, has been more consistent with charts and proven to be huge physical seller. They have shown tremendous growth in sales and it will only go higher from this point onwards.

They are in different position now imo. Aespa still growing on their strong point but ITZY losing their international appeal. So i would say aespa is in better position. JYP jsut need to make up his mind to either focus on international or korea cause releasing a song like sneaker and follow up with Chesire arent helping at all

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Might seem unpopular but ITZY.

They have a well established fandom, good international relevance. They are already holding their own concerts and tours with their wide discography.

Even if they don't have like a super big hit or any hit that was as big as Dalla Dalla or Wannabe, they already cemented themselves to be successful and will only start to earn even more revenue for themselves as the years goes on

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Aespa. Best album sales(for a 4th gen GG) and they will probably have better touring numbers than Itzy too.

Girls did better on BB200 than both Itzy albums this year.

Illusion and Sneakers are similar level hits.

Karina and Winter >>> Yeji and Ryujin both in Korea and internationally.

Aespa just seems to have a bigger fandom and are still relatively new so casual fans will still check out their music. Itzy, on the other hand, are declining and their tour numbers aren't too great for me to put them above Aespa.

Off topic, but I feel like LSF will have the biggest tours among 4th gen GGs

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Same I agree

Aespa

People are gonna pick their faves and I'm obviously biased, but as objectively as possible I think it's Aespa for a few reasons.

Aespa is a newer group, and doesn't have as many gg's to share the resources and limelight with in SM.

While people like to spread the narrative that Aespa flopped this year, their "flop" was only marginally less successful than Itzy's most successful release this year digitally in Korea. On Spotify, Aespa edges Itzy out slightly with both Illusion and Girls compared to Sneakers. Physicals it's Aespa, with one mini doing about the same as Itzy's two releases combined so far (obviously Cheshire is still new).

Taking a look forward, news out of China is that they may have started to relax the rules around Korean entertainment. If this is true, it will be bigger for Aespa I would think.

Recently I've also seen a number of posts from Midzy's who haven't been happy with what JYP has done for Itzy this year either despite having so much content. Personally I think that's more concerning than MYs complaining about a content drought (considering that the drought seems to be well over and they've seemingly got a stacked early '23 ahead).

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Recently I've also seen a number of posts from Midzy's who haven't been happy with what JYP has done for Itzy this year either despite having so much content. Personally I think that's more concerning than MYs complaining about a content drought (considering that the drought seems to be well over and they've seemingly got a stacked early '23 ahead).

actually it is not only Midzy.

I have been a casual listener of ITZY but lately the releases are kinda confusing? Sneakers brought back their younger teenn crush sound which is a bit polarising but at least it was enjoyable. Boys Like U is totally a NO. And then Chesire is like going 180 degree turn again.. out of the 3 songs i only put sneakers on my playlist

Edit: but again, the drought on aespa is super weird too. They released only 1 album this year and theyre gone totally from the scene. The only other song they released is a christmas song collab with RV. And next month, GOT the beat comeback. Where is the aespa comeback? Never in my life i demand a comeback or even a repackage so much from a SM group. Usually SM milk the fans with so many albums and repack but now?? Aespa has 1 album for 2022