Too many new groups are debuting

Yes, the nugus have less chance than before with the market being oversaturated.

The market is growing so it's only natural that more groups go to fuel the demands

A nugu group can still do well while being unknown, unlike before

its mostly hybe and JYP

well in this market, there is still one company that take ages to debut new group. Here I present to you

I think groups from small companies have no chance

not wrong but the invisible hand of the kpop market will decide those that succeed and those that fail...

people have dreams and if a person's dream is to be an idol sometimes a person needs to learn the hard way that not everybody succeeds...

Agree

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Wonder if this year is just an exception or if we'll always have so many new groups debuting from now on.

Last year was a very weak rookie year and barely any big groups debuted. Ive was the only one and they debuted in December.

They probably saw the increasing sale trend for rookies and decided to jump on the train

It will be crazy to see how few of them will remain in the next two years

this forum is becoming oversaturated with girl group threads

also covid messed up a lot of plans.. newjeans was meant to debut in end of 2020/ early 2021 im hearing

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I think this year might just be an extreme. But with Hybe consisting of so many sub-labels who's started to debut both boy groups and girl groups the number of rookie Big4 groups are bound to increase. Plus if Boys/Girls Planet is a big enough success we will start seeing Mnet groups again like P101.

We already know Girls Planet was a massive flop in comparison to the produce series. Their song choices certainly didnt help.

tbh i feel like yall are exaggerating how many groups are actually debuting

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this is what wikipedia has listed for 2022 debuts. i took out the unit groups. thats only 17 new groups, most of whom would have never done well regardless of "oversaturation". last year a total of 18 groups debuted in the whole year. in 2016 25 groups debuted in the year (minus units). if anything less groups are debuting yearly now.

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tbh i feel like yall are exaggerating how many groups are actually debuting

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this is what wikipedia has listed for 2022 debuts. i took out the unit groups. thats only 17 new groups, most of whom would have never done well regardless of "oversaturation". last year a total of 18 groups debuted in the whole year. in 2016 25 groups debuted in the year (minus units). if anything less groups are debuting yearly now.

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boy groups really are flopping in korea... how can i only recognise the girl groups from that list

hybe is creating a factory.

It's actually getting lesser compare to second and third gen, but because we have bigger companies debuting quite lots of groups it feels oversaturated as those groups attracted lots of attention. And we living in social media world right now which words spread faster. Lots of groups having more exposure even coming from small agencies. Is it oversaturated? It's up to you, but if you feel yes, then it's supposed to be more terrible during previous time. The difference now is, lots of groups doing better even from middle company.

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well in this market, there is still one company that take ages to debut new group. Here I present to you

The do the debuts of their new groups like they do the comebacks of their existing groups. Lol