Posts by SunnySun

Quote from 1RL257

Welp by media playing too much, JHJ ironically won nothing lol, he now has an asset that is hated by the public, don't want to work with him, they all lost. I mean sure, JHJ can start over but with zero production skills not only he needs to find new Fifty Fifty 2.0 but The Givers 2.0 as well.

Keep in mind that there is also a separate criminal case filed by Fifty Fifty against JHJ/Attrakt. They'll be on this for months to come. I hope Aran can at least post some song covers in the meantime.

if they lose, the CEO wins money because they will have to pay lawsuit and likely termination fee, the girls didn't sued to not leave the company, they sued to pay as little money as possible or even no money so he wins money if they lose the lawsuit, it was always about money, for both parts.

Quote from nana18

Well it happened to some Loona members they couldn’t get their contract nullified and then they filled for a law suit and they succeeded other than that Fifity Fifity won’t ever go back to that company that damn ceo did everything in his power to ruin the group’s image

2 different cases, Loona's was about unfair contract, for which they didn't had to bring proofs, the contract itself is a proof

Fifty need to bring proofs to win the case, their contract is fine in their case and they failed to do the first time, we are gonna see if they can find better proofs second time but their case was never strong enough since the start

kinda flop, The Bat should had been the title track, still has the NEO feel but much better song, the backtrack good and kinda thrilling

Quote from keyboardwarrior7

I've never found Somi or Nancy to be that pretty tbh despite them being labeled as "visuals".

Of course, that was just my opinion and I know plenty of people disagree with me, so I figured that Koreans just like the half look since they also seem to love European aesthetics.

But, of course, their attitude towards Bahiyyih, Lily, and Chanelle has shown otherwise.

just because somebody is half white, doesn't mean they suit their visual standard, same as not everybody which is korean suit their visual standard or that not all europeans are immediately praised for their visuals

Somi, Nancy, Danielle are praised for their visuals because they prefer their visuals, they don't for Bahiyyih, Lily, and Chanelle

is less about half white/half korean and more about visuals, if you suit their visual standards it doesn't matter what race or nationality you are, that goes for half idols, foreigners and even koreans themselves

obvious male privilege helps, Taeyong also survived a confirmed bullying scandal pre-debut, if this guy isn't dating anymore, he's gonna be fine, others like drinking or whatever other "scandals" they had were pretty mild and not even the first time it happened for kpop groups (see Baekhyun with underage drinking) and not even confirmed, aespa also had plenty of "rumors" pre-debut

isn't he like 19? depends what underage means in this case, i don't see any issue for a 17 yo to date a 19 yo

Quote from doesitneedsaying

his rap lasted four seconds in a song that's 3:38 minute long

Mark shouldn't even be in this song or next one, he should take a month break before 127 comeback, he's overworked to the bones, SM should remember he's not the only guy in SM right now

either way is a flop, no idea what i heard, i don't remember a single thing from this song but then again i don't like most NCT full groups comebacks, i prefer unit comebacks

unpopular opinion i guess but i think Dream always had bigger core fandom, they sold similar even when 127 was pushed a lot more so is not surprising they surpassed them easily when SM remembered they exist too

nope, SM has a lot of sheep company stans, they will attack you even if you say something bad about how the company act, just look at NCT and the favoritism and how some of their fans acts when they get called out

putting down other girls to get attention from boys and nobody in kpop is anything close to pick me, for start girls and boys are barely in the same room lol, acting cute isn't pick me, not even close

Quote from Kouss

I feel like you’re uninformed or so desperate to state an agenda your twisting facts in weird ways lol.

Please explain to me how the graduation system induces stress because frankly you sound stupid. It wasn’t like they were gonna get cut. The graduation system was literally just that, a holding place till they reached a certain age/time when they would join a unit. You’re making it sound like they were under a microscope and could be cut at anytime.

Next i think it’s weird to think their career was at risk. Txt is easily one of the top 4th gen group, debut 3 years after Dream, but they are the same age 20-23???? Like Dream had MORE time to promote and has been promoting basically fully time since 2020 (again, 1 year after TxT debut). So maybe you could argue they lost 1 year, but compare that to the GP knowing their faces in 2016 versus txt only since 2019.

So it’s very hard to act like they wasted time, when by the time their age appropriate peers were promoting, they were too.

So let’s recap, they got to introduce themselves earlier than their 4th gen peers and weren’t threatened by the graduation system. And your part about SM should have debut them in an actual group, that was essentially the plan. AGAIN, if they had just been in dream, then joined a fixed group in 2018, 2019 (like the plan for the graduation system) they would STILL have advantages over their 4th gen peers.

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graduation system was stressful and painfull and the members had a lot of pressure they SAID THEMSELVES, i'm sorry but you are writting essays when you have no idea what are you talking about and there is obsolutely no proof that if SM had redebuted the members again, they wouldn't slowly kill them like they do with Wayv, Dream survived because their popularity exploded and SM didn't want to get rid of a golden mine, the comparation with TXT make no sense, i would had preferred them to debut as NORMAL group, outside NCT 3 or even 4 years later than whatever SM did with them and i'm sure the members would too

Quote from Kouss

SM choose to give Dream 1 comeback a year and less promotions for a variety of reasons.

1) 127 was promoting and Mark/Haechan would be over worked.

2) Some members were minors and i know kpop is against minors being overworked

3) There were Korean minor work laws, that prevented them from always working. I know one time after a concert Chenle/Jisung would be in the room during a V-live but couldn’t be on camera.

4) They actually got to enjoy having time off. I know Chenle/Jisung traveled to China a lot and spent time doing other things like youtube.

So it wasn’t that SM forgot about Dream, they just acknowledged they debuted young idols and knew they had lots of time to build a career.

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disagree for all because the law is still in place and only affect working after mid night, until then minors can work normally and for 4) they didn't enjoyed their time off, the members were super sad, stressed for various things, one not doing anything and they said a lot of times during vlive during that time and their career were at risk, they were lucky their fanbase was mad loyal because very few groups survive getting crumbs for like 4 years of career with 2 members missing almost everytime and uncertainty of the unit and 2) because the graduation thing was stupid and put them under a lot of pressure

And if SM cared about minors, they wouldn't put minors in graduation system under a lot of pressure and mental manipulation, at one point Jisung had a breakdown on stage because of it, if something this show how they cared about minors less than the adults and didn't give 2 shits about them , neither their career or their mental status, if you want to debut a minor group, better debut them in a normal group than whatever SM did with them

Quote from Kouss

I guess manipulate would be the actual term, since i don’t think he actually threatened them. More so asked and girls felt like they couldn’t say no.

And there were a lot of accusations flying around. He obviously had sex with fans and random ppl so it’s hard to know which stories are true and which aren’t. I try to give accusers the benefit of the doubt, and these accusations don’t seem too outlandish.

I mean, i want him back because i don’t think he situation warranted being kicked. It’s not like WayV suddenly did much better after he left, so i think it doesn’t matter that much. Plus the members i actually think deserve to have successful careers, will probably have them regardless of Lucas.

to be sexual assault doesn't mean he has to put a gun on their head lol, if he manipulated and coerced them into having sex when they didn't wanted, is sexual assault

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He even pinned the CEO's comment...

2 years of hiatus and he still didn't improved his dance lol

Quote from killingtime1934

yep

I was her to see sm fuck up exo and I'm still here (sadly) do the see the same happen to nct, especially 127

dream maybe be free from it as they are young but how long will that go, just time will tell

until the new bg debuts outside NCT, hopefully at least 2 more years, Dream was treated badly for most of their career, only this past 2 years SM remembered they have a NCT unit called Dream too and not only 127 lol

Quote from sweetenerstan

I will take advantage of it and enjoy my drinks, tbh. But I can only imagine how many times their ego and pride have crushed since no one seems to recognize them lol

they didn't knew BTS either otherwise they wouldn't give free drinks to any random asian group got in, i have no idea why in the world NCT avoid saying BTS either lol but i do agree that i'll enjoy my drinks too, if the waiter is stupid to think every asian group is BTS, they deserve to lose a few drinks too

Quote from hieuken

as an NJ fan I will there is one metric they never going to surpass BP though.

It is youtube

Other metrics(maybe in the future). Let see in a few years.

individual popularity too, NJ seam more popular as a group than individually, i don't see much noise for them as individuals, even Lesserafim members make more noise

i'm pretty sure they are gonna renew with YG or at least move to TBL, the Lisa one sounds like media play, there is no way somebody offered her this much, we are speaking about $81 mil, i doubt she made this much money in her entire career until now, maybe getting this much money would make sense if they pay her in advance and she won't make any money until the company break free

Quote from Whi

Wait isn’t that like double of ive’s sales for their japanese debut with eleven? But then again if memory serves sakura, minju, chaewon are the 3 most popular izone members in japan so the fact that 2 of them are in lesserafim should explain this pretty well lol. Hybe knows what they were doing when they tried to recruit minju into this group too and obtained another japanese member to strengthen their stronghold in japan

IVE's sales are from oricon, the oricon numbers are in general lower because how they count the albums, i do think LSRF will sell more on oricon but i don't think is gonna be as much, IVE didn't released pre-orders