Posts by iolime

    I can say the same with small companies. Other than a few out standees, the others are very average/below average.

    Yg had about 40 trainees at one point after 2ne1 debuted but only 4 managed to debut in blackpink after how many years?

    SM also have lots of trainees but only 4-5 got to debut each time for girl groups.


    with smaller companies it's easier to have a chance to debut because they can only train so many people with their budget.....of course after they debut then you can talk about privilege from a small company vs big company

    Training from a smaller company is as difficult as training in a Big 3 company. The 'Big 3 Privilege' is still there during trainee days, we're talking about money and resources here. Trainees from smaller companies may not have a hard time in less competition among trainees, but they will surely have a hard time in polishing their skills because of the company's lack of money and resources. Hiring a good vocal coach and dance teacher will already cost them a lot of money. Hence why it's not easier to train and debut in a smaller company, lack of money and resources will always be their problem, which results to a lot of their groups' debut being repeatedly pushed back, or worse, they may actually never have a chance to debut.

    i get what are you saying, but is way harder to debut in a big 3 company, and what's their advantages ?

    i can't see any advantage/privilege of stray kids compared to other bgs like Cravity, Ateez, The Boyz...

    JYPE is one of the Big 3 companies, meaning their company's brand is very well known, which can definitely get them more connections, money, resources, etc. through business partnerships and such. Stray Kids has the advantage of having a big debut and huge promo from a big company, they will have more recognition. Their skills and talent will prove to that big audience put out for them that they are indeed very worthy of that big debut.


    Whereas groups like Cravity, Ateez, The Boyz, etc. have less recognition coming from a mid/small company, so they have to prove themselves that they can catch the attention of a big audience through their skills and talent, even with little money and resources they have.


    Nobody says companies other than big3 have low standards and nobody look down on idols other than big 3 companies lol its just that its apparent that big3 companies have higher standards when choosing their idols,for ex sm has high standards in visuals and according to ex sm auditon judge,to pass the auditions u need to at least able to sing higher than one octave,sm and yg are known for their astounding vocals and rap,many of the best vocalists and rappers are from there so its obvious they have higher standards in vocals and rap,but yes other companies also have very talented idols, with the rigorous training thing,Taeyong has no basic knowledge in dancing before he entered sm but now hes the main dancer,that proves how rigorous sm training is, and read this :https://www.koreaboo.com/stori…veals-truth-trainee-life/


    ur the one losing ur mind,calm ur ass down,nobody said debuting under small company is easy,u know that when they are top companies thousands audition for the companies right,way more than other companies,the probability to debut under big3 are way lower than other small companies,,imagine competing with less than hundred in small company and imagine competing with thousands in big3??which is more difficult u say to me??the uncertain over debuting, hunny koeun an ex sm trainee train for 10 years under the company,people must think that she's for sure gonna debut but no she doesnt,,the same goes for lami and hina who trains for almost 10 years,,why??because according to sm,they are others better than them,imagine already passing the audition amongst thousands but then u need to compete with hundreds more trainees under the same company to debut,,this is the thing ,when u has a big 3 status in the industry more people will audition for ur company compared to other unknown companies,,this is why its harder to get into big3,,u need to compete with hell lot of people compared to small companies,,they managed to beat thousands others competing so they earn it

    I honestly don't understand what you mean by this? Because if what you're saying is that Big 3 companies have much higher standards such as visuals, skills, and talent in picking their idols, then what does that mean towards idols from smaller companies? That smaller companies don't have that same kind of high standard towards their idols, hence why they have less competition among trainees? If that's what you mean, then you're wrong. Kindly don't looked down on their skills and talent while praising Big 3 idols for having such high standard of a skill and talent, when we can clearly see that there are a lot of idols from smaller companies who are as talented.


    Both Big 3 idols and idols from smaller companies have that 'uncertain over debut' during their trainee days. Big 3 idols worry about that because of the huge competition among many trainees under the company, hence why they need to work twice as hard in polishing their skills and talent as trainees in order to prove themselves to be worthy of a big debut and/or a huge promo from a big company. While idols from smaller companies may have less competition among trainees, their worries will fall under the company's lack of money and resources in making a successful debut at least, they have to work twice as hard in order to prove themselves that they can catch the audience's attention and become bigger with enough money and resources they have through polishing their skills and talent as trainees.


    Let me repeat myself, every single idol out there had it tough, whether they're from a Big 3 company or a smaller company. No one had it much harder than the other, everyone of them have gone through rigorous training, but at the same time, have different disadvantages or worries while doing so. You should know that by now after being a fan of a K-Pop group, knowing what difficult process they have to go through in order to achieve their dreams.

    That's not a fact tho. Big 3 idols have to work twice as hard because of the competition among many trainees under the company, just like how idols from smaller companies have to work twice as hard because their company lack provision such as money and resources. Both situations doesn't have that 100% assurance of debuting. Debuting in a Big 3 company is as difficult as debuting in a smaller company. Every group has their own advantages and disadvantages while climbing at the top, there's no such thing as an 'easy way' to reach the top. Every single trainee/idol out there had it tough.

    I mean, I can understand if that 'Big 3 Privilege' means more money and resources for debut and comebacks, and there's nothing wrong with that, but to say that they have 'high standards and rigorous training' for their idols compared to non-Big 3 idols is a stretch. Non-Big 3 idols have also experienced that, they also have to work themselves to the bone in order for them to debut. There are a lot of non-Big 3 idols who have proven themselves to be very talented. I'm sorry, but I find that 'high standards' quite disrespectful to non-Big 3 idols towards their hard work, their skills and talent being looked down upon just because they didn't have the chance to be part of the Big 3 companies.

    Yes I remember lol. And all of them had to share a single bathroom....what a nightmare!


    Also, didn't Hoshi said they all have their own rooms now.... (except Mingyu and Wonwoo)

    I may not be that updated about them now, or I might have forgotten when did they have mentioned that, but I guess that's great, then! Mingyu and Wonwoo would still have to endure each other's presence in a single bedroom, privacy would have to wait. Haha

    Please i need my personal place, no matter how close i am to anyone...


    (Btw svt have their own rooms with 3 dorms, but they have definable shared 1 dorm in the past too )

    That was very chaotic. I'm getting 17 Project and One Fine Day '13 Castaway Boys' nostalgia. Those boys were fighting for a single toothpaste! I guess their home environment has been good now, but they still share bedrooms even though they have 3 floors of their dorm. Haha. I hope Pledis can finally give each member a single room for themselves.

    SEVENTEEN established a name for themselves, especially for being known and introduced as 'Self-Producing Idols' without the help of a big company. I think that alone tells you that they are very passionate about their crafts as an artist. Idol groups are artists, too, no matter how small or big they have participated in their crafts, and I'm talking about every single idol group out there working themselves to the bone to put out great music and performances.

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    iolime we get a birthday gif from them, lyrics by Carats

    :smirks:

    It's cute tbh. Haha. Tho I still have to wait and search for the English lyrics on YT.