aespa Karina sends a message regarding all the hate aespa got after Coachella

Hate? I've seen a lot of positive responses though?

It sucks that they feel they have to address things like this. But good for them for having the freedom to do so.

I'm glad that they're speaking their thoughts, trying to give their fans strength to deal with the hate they're getting. Though its also sad that they're noticing hate comments.

When NingNing talked about it i was "oh, cool!!", but after seeing 3/4 of them speaking up it's actually sad no? Just how much hate are they getting for them to come forward and calm the fans? Wow, people are really living miserable, uh?

I hope they feel all the love too!

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Hate? I've seen a lot of positive responses though?

It sucks that they feel they have to address things like this. But good for them for having the freedom to do so.

Praise from inetz, hate from knetz, knetz opinions matters more to the idol groups as they're from their own home country.

I'm glad they're speaking up about this,we can only hope that the hate doesn't get to them and they manage to focus on the positive.

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Hate? I've seen a lot of positive responses though?

It sucks that they feel they have to address things like this. But good for them for having the freedom to do so.

It’s these nasty YouTube and tiktok videos people are constantly sharing it’s the same clips showing the main stage from afar away view near the ferris wheel. Now antis keep saying it was empty cause it looked small from distance or no one was supporting them even though several people that went commented it’s false and have post actual videos there. Kpop stans only want the negativity even if it’s false

aespa and mys will continue getting stronger while haters continue wasting their life

I hate to single it out, but the hates are mostly comes from 1 particular fandom. Some bad apple even go beyond and may direct message them just like Tablo. This is why you see NingNing visibly down this morning in her airport picture. Now Karina and GIselle also send similar messages on their bubble. So you could see that it's not just hate they see on message board.

SM may regret this for the headline. Sure they generate some headlines, but hates they are getting are not worth it for their artists.

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Praise from inetz, hate from knetz, knetz opinions matters more to the idol groups as they're from their own home country.

Nah, Most translate are hated messages from that particular fandom which most come from PAN, and 1 from Sojang.

What have the other members said?

Glad aespa had fun and they did a great job all that matters

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Praise from inetz, hate from knetz, knetz opinions matters more to the idol groups as they're from their own home country.

I honestly feel like there is some kpop culture aspect in knetz that is genuinely toxic.

Reminds me of a 2nd gen group on tv and a mic is handed into a "fan" and the "fan" proceeds to point out one of the idols being fat ( they were pretty dang thin imo) and said their underarm fat was too much and the visceral reaction from the idol --

I think it was snsd but I'm not sure but the gall to objectify idols on national television--- I wonder where his parents are bruv I bet they were *both* absentee for the duration of his childhood.

I see that knetz tend to argue over visuals, mannerisms, dress, etc. very surface level things that honestly contribute to a high level of objectification when tallied up in cumulation.

Just a disclaimer: I am not saying knetz all do this but I do see higher comment density with this topic in k-twit or c-twit regarding kpop.

There's something about toxic traditions in that discussion somewhere but honestly this is wearing me out.

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I hate to single it out, but the hates are mostly comes from 1 particular fandom. Some bad apple even go beyond and may direct message them just like Tablo. This is why you see NingNing visibly down this morning in her airport picture. Now Karina and GIselle also send similar messages on their bubble. So you could see that it's not just hate they see on message board.

SM may regret this for the headline. Sure they generate some headlines, but hates they are getting are not worth it for their artists.

Nah, Most translate are hated messages from that particular fandom which most come from PAN, and 1 from Sojang.

I mean SM will always mediaplay just as any company will but it's bad when stans attack everything they do. How is it Aespa's fault when there's mediaplay?

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I honestly feel like there is some kpop culture aspect in knetz that is genuinely toxic.

Reminds me of a 2nd gen group on tv and a mic is handed into a "fan" and the "fan" proceeds to point out one of the idols being fat ( they were pretty dang thin imo) and said their underarm fat was too much and the visceral reaction from the idol --

I think it was snsd but I'm not sure but the gall to objectify idols on national television--- I wonder where his parents are bruv I bet they were *both* absentee for the duration of his childhood.

I see that knetz tend to argue over visuals, mannerisms, dress, etc. very surface level things that honestly contribute to a high level of objectification when tallied up in cumulation.

Just a disclaimer: I am not saying knetz all do this but I do see higher comment density with this topic in k-twit or c-twit regarding kpop.

There's something about toxic traditions in that discussion somewhere but honestly this is wearing me out.

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Are you talking about f(x) on that mess of a show that was Hello Counselor?

I remember watching this back in the day and getting infuriated 52:33

The person from the audience(wasn't even a fan I don't think) said Sulli could lose weight,to which Amber immediately clapped back.

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Are you talking about f(x) on that mess of a show that was Hello Counselor?

I remember watching this back in the day and getting infuriated 52:33

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The person from the audience(wasn't even a fan I don't think) said Sulli could lose weight,to which Amber immediately clapped back.

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Yes,that's the one!That was just horrible to watch,poor Sulli.

I don't want to judge that man too hard tbh..he obviously had/has a mental problem of his own there.

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I remember watching this back in the day and getting infuriated 52:33

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The person from the audience(wasn't even a fan I don't think) said Sulli could lose weight,to which Amber immediately clapped back.

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Knowing what happened with Sulli in the end, this makes me sick. Like physically sick. I was about to go in on the guy who said, but had to hold myself back because then I would just be a hypocrite. The nerve of him. I feel sorry for whoever he married.

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It’s these nasty YouTube and tiktok videos people are constantly sharing it’s the same clips showing the main stage from afar away view near the ferris wheel. Now antis keep saying it was empty cause it looked small from distance or no one was supporting them even though several people that went commented it’s false and have post actual videos there. Kpop stans only want the negativity even if it’s false

It's the usual culprit 'Sojang' further spreading that TikTok Live from outside the main stage and making a compilation of "mess" moments on stage. If the official stage video gets posted, no one would look at these controversial videos but it's what you see when you search aespa for now. People have been always so determined to make anything aespa-related so negative. aespa could cure global warming and they would say they want to freeze us to death.

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i'm sorry but don't think it's right to trying to excuse or justify the hate they're getting with excuses like "sm shouldn't have do this and other fandom wouldn't hate on aespa"

there's nobody else than themselves who are in fault, people disagree about the sm statement but never went to attack and hate on the girls

and people trying to justify their behaviour like i saw on the forum with this excuse are just lame imo

No, in no way you should have interpret my message as a excuse for them to be hate. They are still getting hate no matter what. Being at Coachella this early already is the reason to be hate by the haters.

The headline which generates most noise before their performance have triggered the majority of that particular fandom. I mean, from this forum to Twitter, the discussion was dominated by the headline. Even Tablo got extreme hate just with 1 tweet.

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I mean SM will always mediaplay just as any company will but it's bad when stans attack everything they do. How is it Aespa's fault when there's mediaplay?

Wow, I did not say that lol. Here my stand on this particular issue. I would not have put that particular headline out if I known the hates they are getting now. I don't think it's worth it. Do I think it's wrong? No. Technically the headline was correct and still is.

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It's the usual culprit 'Sojang' further spreading that TikTok Live from outside the main stage and making a compilation of "mess" moments on stage. If the official stage video gets posted, no one would look at these controversial videos but it's what you see when you search aespa for now. People have been always so determined to make anything aespa-related so negative. aespa could cure global warming and they would say they want to freeze us to death.

Why is she even still allowed on YouTube? She has spread so many lies and misinformation. Like, she must really be skirting the lines of legality because I know her account probably gets reported hundreds of times daily.

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Knowing what happened with Sulli in the end, this makes me sick. Like physically sick. I was about to go in on the guy who said, but had to hold myself back because then I would just be a hypocrite. The nerve of him. I feel sorry for whoever he married.

The reason why he was taken to the show in the first place was because he degraded everyone around him for their weight,as well as being obsessed with his own weight.

He obviously has mental issues,which is precisely why I don't want to judge him too hard.

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No, in no way you should have interpret my message as a excuse for them to be hate. They are still getting hate no matter what. Being at Coachella this early already is the reason to be hate by the haters.

The headline which generates most noise before their performance have triggered the majority of that particular fandom. I mean, from this forum to Twitter, the discussion was dominated by the headline. Even Tablo got extreme hate just with 1 tweet.

Wow, I did not say that lol. Here my stand on this particular issue. I would not have put that particular headline out if I known the hates they are getting now. I don't think it's worth it. Do I think it's wrong? No. Technically the headline was correct and still is.

Oh I know you didn't! I was just speaking hypothetically as I knew people would take that out of your comment. I better go write good things about Tablo on his socials because damn...he's right.

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I remembered this.. And Hello Counselor is by far the most uncomfortable show I ever watched for a variety show, seeing people with mental health on that show asking idols for advice when they should be seeking professional help is just plain stupid to me..

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Praise from inetz, hate from knetz, knetz opinions matters more to the idol groups as they're from their own home country.

Praise from inetz uh have you seen this forum the last couple of days..?

Also they were much praised in all media outlets in Korea so…

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I remembered this.. And Hello Counselor is by far the most uncomfortable show I ever watched for a variety show, seeing people with mental health on that show asking idols for advice when they should be seeking professional help is just plain stupid to me..

When the show concept is broken -- well...

Better bring a parka and a raincoat for the SHTF moments.

Seriously though they should have at least brought in a few accredited professionals where they can give clinical advice and idols to bring (maybe) relatable experiences, but srs, fans directly attacking idols is just -- no.

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Praise from inetz uh have you seen this forum the last couple of days..?

Also they were much praised in all media outlets in Korea so…

Usually the comments is where you can find the opinions.

also absolutes are usually best by tacking a parenthetical "generally " in front of the absolute statement.

Ex: (Generally) "Praise from inetz, hate from knetz"

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Usually the comments is where you can find the opinions.

also absolutes are usually best by tacking a parenthetical "generally " in front of the absolute statement.

Ex: (Generally) "Praise from inetz, hate from knetz"

Yeah I get it but I don’t agree,

For example the comment section in western media outlets (non kpop) where access pool of racist comments

I can never fathom how anyone thinks sending hate to people who have done absolutely nothing is okay, nor can I imagine receiving all this hate and having to keep a smile on my face no matter what. This was such a great experience for them and gave them a taste of an actual audience and different atmosphere. I was impressed with their stage and excited for their new album. I thought the message of their new song fit perfectly for them and the situation.

While I know it must have been difficult for the girls to write those messages, I’m glad they were able to express how they feel, and hopefully they are seeing the loads of support they’ve been receiving.

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Praise from inetz uh have you seen this forum the last couple of days..?

Also they were much praised in all media outlets in Korea so…

Hates generate most noise, anything negative tend to stick in our head.

That particular post is corrected that inets are mostly positive even here. Like I said, most of the hate are coming from that fandom. I seen most people stated they did great on here.

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Hates generate most noise, anything negative tend to stick in our head.

That particular post is corrected that inets are mostly positive even here. Like I said, most of the hate are coming from that fandom. I seen most people stated they did great on here.

I edit my previous comment but if you check any comment section about aespa in regular western media it’s a cesspool of racist and Asian fetish comments so I still don’t agree

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Praise from inetz uh have you seen this forum the last couple of days..?

Also they were much praised in all media outlets in Korea so…

Yeah, I think most agreed they sang live well, rest were criticisms which I won't call hate.

I mean the girls themselves are mentioning about the negative/hate comments even if its from pressed kpop fans but its there

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Yeah I get it but I don’t agree,

For example the comment section in western media outlets (non kpop) where a cesspool of racist comments resides.

Yep. I hadn't considered the racist comments part of inetz; they had no real appreciation for the idols

but yea that's true there is an influx of racist comments for each major move a kpop group makes.

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Yep. I hadn't considered the racist comments part of inetz; they had no real appreciation for the idols

but yea that's true there is an influx of racist comments for each major move a kpop group makes.

Ok so when you say inetz you mean international kpop fans?

That’s makes it a bit clearer.

Still don’t agree most Korean comment sections appears positive to me, maybe that’s my search algorithms

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Ok so when you say inetz you mean international kpop fans?

That’s makes it a bit clearer.

Still don’t agree most Korean comment sections appears positive to me, maybe that’s my search algorithms

Yea I generally use it as a misnomer -- I use inetz and knetz as fans, not just internet citizens

Yea search algorithms are quite a irritating thing tbh. I had thought once there was a stiff backlash against AleXa's debut only to find that she made it into so many positive headlines...

Poor girls. I hope they can be happy about their performance