BTS' military exemption will be decided next week - the future of Kpop and the world's pop culture in balance

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If you couldn't make it through the essay...

TL;DR: I think BTS will get exempted and IU is

You're welcome folks.

IU is what?

the title is too dramatic

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Your username is SO ironic, I can't -

How is it ironic?

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Out of sight, out of mind.

Can't be avoided.

i'm sure EVERYONE will forget about them when they're only semi-active. they'll lose ALL their fans and their memory will be completely wiped from existence never to be heard from again. i mean look at all the boy groups that have enlisted in the past! they've all been total FLOPS that have totally NEVER been successful during or afterwards, boy i can't think of a SINGLE example of a boy group that has survived enlistment, OH WELL.

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Out of sight, out of mind.

Can't be avoided.

It's true for me

IF BTS don't get exempted from enlisting

and IF they all enlist at once

here's the hard truth (don't open the spoiler if you can't take it):

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IF BTS don't get exempted from enlisting

and IF they all enlist at once

here's the hard truth (don't open the spoiler if you can't take it):

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They will still sell more with just their back catalogue than your favs (or my favs)

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i was talking about this with my mom and she thinks they should do it all at once as to make the process much shorter

8 days to end of april and nothing... me and them have one thing in common= procrastination till last min.

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Until a few hours ago, the two major factions in Korean politics were fighting for an issue (about whether the police should conclude criminal investigations or should the prosecutors continue to be involved) which consumed every other issue, including BTS' military exemption.

But a deal was made between the two factions, which means there are 8 more days to discuss BTS' exemption.

The only faction which is vehemently against BTS' exemption is the K-O-R-E-A-N men in the 20-29 cohort, but their champion was just ousted from the incoming ruling party because of a prostitution scandal.

Since that cohort did not significantly vote for the incoming party, it is unlikely that anyone will pay attention to them, and odds are 2:1 for their exemption in my opinion.

In addition, with the ouster of the rep of 20-29 men's cohort , the people who were advocating BTS' exemption are likely to lead the incoming ruling party, giving a green light for BTS' exemption, and also opening the door for some upcoming KPop acts which I won't name.

If they are stopped here, other acts are not up to speed to fill BTS' gap and all of the Kpop successes will be history.

The world culture will forget KPop. BlackPink and other acts might last, but they won't challenge the world order and the person who is likely to gain the most from this will be smiling, driving Kpop back to the old era.

The person who gets to gain the most from their enlistment would be quite upset now because of the turn of events ; if the political standoff had continued till the end of month there would have been no time to discuss BTS' exemption and she gets to lead Kpop again, but now there will be enough time, her chance to recapture KPop's initiative is diminishing very rapidly.

Perhaps the dude which runs the Universe thinks it is time for BTS to become the Emperor of the World and the person who contributed nothing to KPop in her first 10 years should not be gaining anything from the ascendance of Kpop around the world because she put virtually zero efforts towards its expansion.

IT is like Grouchy, instead of losing his way, shows up suddenly at the back of Wellington, which means the Waterloo Bridge at London would probably have some other name now.

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Putting the trolling aside I admit you offered me some updates and insights on their exemption talks

Imma just wait and see if Suga will fulfill his words

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actually I think OP missed one point here

not the ones which are currently in university/college or starting first job are mad

mad are probably those who already wasted 2 years of life on their military service

and also from what I remember from 'positive' comments and people who entered post on Korean forum unsurprisingly majority of them were women, but surprisingly ahjummas in their 40's were the biggest group/most interested in giving BTS an exemption

ps: that what I wrote above doesn't have anything to do with my personal opinion

for me BTS should just do some community service from time to time, for example visiting a school but not as performers, but as speakers to talk about hardships of life and how to go through them

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That’s what you do if you get exempted. You do alternative service

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Imma just wait and see if Suga will fulfill his words

if he doesn't get exempted he will go, if he gets exempted he doesn't need to go. its common sense.

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Imma just wait and see if Suga will fulfill his words

Suga literally said that he will go when the time comes. If that time never comes due to the exemption, he’s not going anywhere

I doubt pop culture is going to implode since it is bigger than them.

And I doubt they will be completely out of sight too.

K-pop fans are so dramatic is2g...

So this is a law which will allow Koreans that make a "name" for themselves to skip Military Duties or basically what Chaebols and the Rich in SK want to exempt their Kids

i feel like alternate service is almost guaranteed //knocks on wood//

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Next we are going to hear that IU only out on that soldier's uniform to prove that in fact SHE is the only one that can successfully come back from enlistment!

Well, IU also learned some very valuable life lessons from her short stint in the air force

Proof that military service is not always wasted...

I'll probably quit kpop if BTS don't get an ewxemptiy

i saw an article saying 93k men received alternative service benefits in the last few years, BTS 100% deserve it.

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like I said first part was only about things what I observed on forums

as for second you are not right tho, because there are already lot of Idols which for example were doing some community service but in normal time of full mandatory service, on a daily basis...

I remember one of Idols talking how he was helping police with controlling the trafic, some were working as ticket controlers, some as guards in gov buildings, some were like inside military base but they were working as drivers etc.

whole BTS drama started because there were many articles in way "will BTS be pardoned" which meant doing nothing, not going at all, currently you can see people from SK gov rather than that using phrase "alternative form of service" which will mean simple works, but still not on a regular daily basis, or at least not in full lenght of 19 months (or 2 years if new president decides to switch back to old rules)

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No you don’t understand. People exempted and people who straight up do public service don’t have the same structure for their alternative service.

Firstly, people exempted don’t have to put their careers on hold to complete their alternative service straight up. Their time is divided into hours they are to complete for the full 18 months of service. And they usually spend this service in their respective fields of career. Using Son Heungmin as an example, he finishef 4weeks of basic training, then did his alternative service which included coaching some young Korean footballers. He recently completed all his hours and he’s now done with his military service.

This is different from people who are made to serve but end up doing public service. This public service is completed in the full period and they put their careers on hold until they are done. That’s the difference

If Heug-Min Son had to go, no way they dont have to

Even Blackpink and TWICE went to military, why not this men?