Explanation about the stupid accusations Stray Kids has been receiveing related to their sales for Billboard 200

  • 1. Why is Stray Kids challenging a Billboard 200 #1 debut If they've never charted.


    This is the first time Stray Kids has been receiveing a good and proper US distribution. Previously, their albums distributed for US fans used to be delayed for shipping weeks or even months after the release. What means, when their fans bought from these specific minor stories, It used to hurt their hanteo' achievements, so their fans avoid and bought through Korean stories.


    When their albums started to be sold in stories such as Amazon, B&N and Target, It became the main focus of their US Fans and, through the whole month, they dominated Target, Barnes and Amazon's Top 5 of Best Sellers Chart.


    Digital Album sales were never Stay's main focus, especially because when Stray Kids blew up in popularity in mid 2020, It wasn't even as significant as used to be, since iTunes is every new year more dead than the last one.


    2. Pre-order Beneficits and how they work for Stray Kids


    So, every pre-release of Stray Kids album, JYP announces different pobs for different stories and STAY buy them depending on their preference for what is offered. Since their albums started to being distributed in US Stores and for US fans, they created pre-order benefits to motivate these specific citzens to buy Stray Kids' albums.


    3. Korean store Yes24 and what's their correlation with Billboard 200 for ODDINARY sales.


    You can buy from Yes24 If you are from US, Germany, Mexico, Thailand, Korea, Brazil etc It doesn't matter. When they are being sold by JYP, the pre order benefit is a folder poster (If I'm not mistaken, but someone can correct me). However, Yes24 gives a opportunity for re-sellers to deliver albums from another country to Korea. In this specific case, the album was more than 3x the original price. So the re-seller buy in a US Store If there's a request, with a pre-order benefit from there and is selling to a regular korean. But If you check the actual index points of Yes24 for the album, It's 450. What is extremally low, so It doesn't have any impact in their sales. Both deals work separately.


    Even Stray Kids own personal shop cancelled overseas orders.


    I swear to you, If people from all around the world could be buying their albums there and counting towards Billboard, they would be with #1 guaraanted with a huge amount of sales, not fighting against another artist. That's how focused and organized Stays are to create and execute goals for Stray Kids.


    Jeff Benjamin himself going in defense of them:


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    4. To end It, Stray Kids is simple becoming more popular.


    It's not rocket science. This is being reflected in their streaming plataforms, the size of the arenas they will performing going to be bigger than in the first half of 2020, their sales through Korean stories, the improvement of their domestic charting. So why would be a surprise for It in the US that were always one of the countries with their strongest fandoms?


    5. I appreaciate the amount of relevance people put in Stray Kids name to believe Billboard and HDD will be manipulated because of them.


    I always say they are the biggest legendary pop act since the debut of Michael Jackson, but seeing people indirectly agreeing makes me happy.

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  • Minazuki


    Whenever an act starts to become successful, insecure haters come up with the silliest excuses to downplay their achievements.


    I've been a fan of Stray Kids for two years now and I can see how organic their growth is. Their music got better, they grew more confident and matured artistically also gained more fans. It's only natural that it'll be reflected on sales and chart performances.


    Let haters whine all they want. Stray Kids stay winning :pepe-toast:

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  • Wait, so you have to be a US citizen to receive the US cards and help in BB200? So, my order of 10 albums from Yes24 to Brazil is not going to help? OMG, bamboozled again for kpoopies i don't know. :pepe-sad:

    1. You can’t order more than 4 albums at the same store - additional albums will be cancelled.


    2. Your order overseas will be refunded and rejected if such is the case.

  • Wait, so you have to be a US citizen to receive the US cards and help in BB200? So, my order of 10 albums from Yes24 to Brazil is not going to help? OMG, bamboozled again for kpoopies i don't know. :pepe-sad:

    I bought 3 copies from Brazil with Synnara pob. If I knew I could help them in Billboard before, I would've bought through the legend Yes24. Knetz, you should've been faster, my albums are already shipped


    :peperain:

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  • Thanks for the info.


    Edit:


    Wait...where does it say that?


    FAQ - YES24

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    "And they escorted her to a prison cell..."



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  • More confirmation that it’s only being US sales that are counted:


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  • More confirmation that it’s only being US sales that are counted:


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    They deserve everything :pepe-sad:

  • I don't know why even write something like this about SKZ. They are known to have great album sales and they fandom has increased worldwide.

  • i'm surprised they didn't use Hello82 to try to go for billboard, they used Hello82 for Ateez and they charted on billboard, not that high though but they made it. Good luck to Stray Kids and I hope they make it. People who don't collect albums don't understand why people mass buy.


    Like Up10tion's recent comeback had pob's through makestar, jump up, top media, and other places, every photocard is different, and makestar had exclusive member ones for the video call ones you could try for. That's why people mass buy who actually collect things, it's just annoying when so many places offer pob's and you're like dammit i'm broke. after buying from like 10 other places lol.


    Always seems like people like to run their mouth when a group is doing as well as, if not better, then their faves. Like just get over it. It's not gonna hurt you.

  • #MINAISTIREDAF

    #DONTMESSWITHMINA

    But honestly, as an ARMY, you should know what this is all about :alpaca-scold:

    Haters gonna hate, players gonna play...

    I know, right? I've been watching the same type of accusations around BTS to the point the boys have been addresing it personally to defend themselves and army. And still surprise me how people can be so mean.


    :pepe-sad:

  • i'm surprised they didn't use Hello82 to try to go for billboard, they used Hello82 for Ateez and they charted on billboard, not that high though but they made it. Good luck to Stray Kids and I hope they make it. People who don't collect albums don't understand why people mass buy.


    Like Up10tion's recent comeback had pob's through makestar, jump up, top media, and other places, every photocard is different, and makestar had exclusive member ones for the video call ones you could try for. That's why people mass buy who actually collect things, it's just annoying when so many places offer pob's and you're like dammit i'm broke. after buying from like 10 other places lol.


    Always seems like people like to run their mouth when a group is doing as well as, if not better, then their faves. Like just get over it. It's not gonna hurt you.

    I was so happy for ATEEZ when they got the Hello82 deal! They've signed to RCA for years and they don't do the bare mininum for them, apparently. Otherwise they would've charted in Billboard 200 even earlier.

  • I was so happy for ATEEZ when they got the Hello82 deal! They've signed to RCA for years and they don't do the bare mininum for them, apparently. Otherwise they would've charted in Billboard 200 even earlier.

    True unfortunately and although hello82 helps they suck as a company takes forever to get what you ordered

  • I said this in the other thread but since BB200 no longer counts bundles, which artificially inflated sales numbers, the chart is more reflective of actual sales without the gimmicks so it's easier for different artists to chart because they're not being crowded out by those artificially inflated bundle sales. When I say it's easier to chart, I don't mean that to undermine the achievement. What I mean is that the charts are a little more fair so more artists have an opportunity to chart in a better position. I think it's completely believable that Stray Kids is going for number 1, given all the factors, and it's super impressive that it's with straight sales. Very cool achievement for US Stays and Stray Kids!

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  • Minazuki


    Mina, you’re such a star. I really value you. I assume it must have been like this when BTS started challenging the billboard charts and people felt threatened by it.


    SKZ growth over the last year, in particular has been phenomenal ( but well WELL- deserved. )


    At this point, with how BB keeps trying to switch things up, if SKZ get the numbers, then their position, wherever they end up, is entirely merited.

  • Reading the comments on pannchoa are hilarious. People will just say whatever not knowing anything and people will believe it.


    Sheep mentality by Kpop fans.

    Then they take that to different sites and regurgitate it and use it as "proof" it's right.

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