Wait so Lee Haein ranked 1st in Idol School and was supposed to debut as fromis_9's center but was rigged out?

Funny how Idol school was more rigged than Produce but Produce was the one to get slapped on the ass by the public while Idol school was in the shadows (not that Idol School didn't suffer legally of course).

We can't do anything about Lee Haein though, like Fromis_9 are around four years into debut, and their fanbase is stable, the only thing the K-pop industry can do is to try to prevent this from happening again, hopefully

Omg this is so crazy, no wonder the hate comments were so severe

Wait wait, they knew since the beginning??? Yikes... This is a big disappointment to me

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Debut members were informed they have been chosen to debut from the start of the show, and had signed separate contracts from the rest.

At least with Produce 101, the trainees didn't actually know they were rigged in but the way I see it, no matter how much I like this group, the girls knew and profited from other girls being scammed, cheated out of their dreams and didn't have a problem with stealing someone's position if that meant their own dreams would come true. I can never see myself supporting a group like that ever again. No wonder knetz want them to disband.

Source please?

From the articles I read, a lot of the participants were offered separate contracts before the show, including Haein, not juste the winners. And I never read anything about the girls knowing the winners beforehand.

Please don't go running around with assumptions. It's your choice whether to support the group or not but none of the Korean courts have found any of these idols guilty of collusion with Mnet and that's after an actual official police investigation into the matter. Concluding that the idols are guilty through either half-baked translations of Korean articles or uninformed guess work isn't really proper.

Also, let's clarify that the actual and factual criminal here is Mnet, which was officially found guilty and their responsible personnel fined and jailed. Direct the hate to the actual criminal instead of the bystanders who got dragged along with their scam. Also, the fact that people go after the idols instead of Mnet themselves, and people just conveniently forget and continue to watch and support Mnet's idol shows is pretty telling.

In the end, very few people actually really care about any of this.

Mnet has never been Transparent, and only ever revealed what they were legally obligated to and not one thing more

Does that sound like a Company that is repentant and Sorry for their past Actions?

Of-course not, I was so naïve to give them a Second chance, but that is how the old saying goes;

Fool me once shame on you

Fool me twice shame on me

Mnet won't fool me twice, because I am not dumb enough to give them another chance, when people show you who they really are, believe them, Mnet are lying duplicitous snakes who don't care for the well being of their shows contestants and only care for their bottom line simple

It's part of the reason why I've never been able to stan Fromis_9 as hard as I'd like. After I found out how rigged they were, it feels wrong to support them. I know it's not fair to the girls since it's not their fault, but what's REALLY not fair is how they were Haein was robbed and they were basically able to get away with it.

I don't get why people keep on giving Mnet a pass. Like...... THEYRE LEGIT CRIMINALS! They even publicly stated that they wouldn't do any more idol competition shows yet here we are. No hate on the idols. They're just teenagers trying to live their dreams. But its OBVIOUS that Mnet is just using them and these idol shows to scam money out of fans. The whole thing STINKS

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Mnet is really the best lol

I wanna be the very best

Like Mnet ever was

to rig 'em all is my real test

to abscond from blame is my cause

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https://www.allkpop.com/articl…tional-letter-to-her-fans

Imagine rigging out the real winner of the show?

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/…of_idol_school_writes_an/

I knew that the rigging was severe in Idol School, but I didn't know it was this severe! I just found out today.

Every single voting round was manipulated.

Mnet announced they were picking girls from open auditions but 99% of them were actually picked privately without auditioning.

Debut members were had signed separate contracts from the rest since the beginning.*

They rigged the #1 voted member by the voters, Lee Haein, out.

At least with Produce 101, the trainees didn't actually know they were rigged in but the way I see it, no matter how much I like this group, the girls knew and profited from other girls being scammed, cheated out of their dreams and didn't have a problem with stealing someone's position if that meant their own dreams would come true. I can never see myself supporting a group like that ever again. No wonder knetz want them to disband.

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Source please?

From the articles I read, a lot of the participants were offered separate contracts before the show, including Haein, not juste the winners. And I never read anything about the girls knowing the winners beforehand.

Yeah, I think MNET had a select few (maybe 20 or more) candidates that they knew they wanted to pick from, the rest were just there for the show.

MNET probably knew a few (maybe half) of the members they were going to select since day 1, the rest they probably picked for the selected few with special contracts.

I do not know if Haein was one of the girls with the special contracts, I do wonder why the MNET people did not like her. Was it her visuals?

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Please don't go running around with assumptions. It's your choice whether to support the group or not but none of the Korean courts have found any of these idols guilty of collusion with Mnet and that's after an actual official police investigation into the matter. Concluding that the idols are guilty through either half-baked translations of Korean articles or uninformed guess work isn't really proper.

Also, let's clarify that the actual and factual criminal here is Mnet, which was officially found guilty and their responsible personnel fined and jailed. Direct the hate to the actual criminal instead of the bystanders who got dragged along with their scam. Also, the fact that people go after the idols instead of Mnet themselves, and people just conveniently forget and continue to watch and support Mnet's idol shows is pretty telling.

In the end, very few people actually really care about any of this.

Is easier to hate on some groups that to stop watching survival shows, even when they know are rigged.

i don't like people blaming the girls like they're somehow at fault or knew with certainty that they were getting rigged in.

Everyone knows survival show are rigged

Yet they still support them and the groups out of them

At this point the blame is on the consumer

Well, people still watched the latest mnet survival show even after all that

So what is it, mnet bad or mnet good?