Ennik 'Somi' Douma might be the second talent JYP has actually lost and might regret.

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In the history of KPop, the larger companies tend to get the best potential trainees, and that translates into the best members.

For many years, there was a list of people JYP lost and he regrets losing them.

However, after the dust settles, few of them end up better than the people JYP chose in the end.

Objectively, only three of the people JYP had lost ended up better than the people he chose.

1. Jay Park

No need to say any more about him and JYP

2. IU

She was actually cut pre-audition, but she is often cited on the list of people JYP lost. The truth is , JYP still managed to get some utility out of her, with the song 'Someday' (which itself has some history which I will skip today).

And JYP didn't lack female soloists, like Jamie Park, Baek Ayeon and Baek Yerin. Baek Ayeon did score the only music show win for JYP organization in 2015 and did her worth, and the other two , while more successful after leaving JYP, did carry their weight while JYP was busy on something else.

3. Xiumin

He was also cut at pre-audition. He was quite obese back then. What happened him after he joined SM needs not to be told.

So, other than these three, two of them cut before they were seriously considered by the JYP organization, none of the people JYP supposedly lost ended up bigger than a JYP act (and I am not talking about acts like Day6, which has a different focus).

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Ennik 'Somi' Douma might join the list. Since she recently danced with Chaeyong (Twice) I don't think she has an animosity against JYP, and in any case her style of music was not something which she would do while being under JYP. So, she might become the second true talent JYP has actually lost.

It is interesting that both of them are not Koreans. Jay Park is an American and Ennik Douma is a

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JYP's penchant for running his groups like pack mules instead of human beings is something that probably grates against Western born/raised idols. Locals dont like to be controlled and told what to do every waking moment of our lives. We also dont like to be worked for 100+ hours per week for months at a time for slave wages, especially when we're still high school age. Americans are sensitive to things like child labor laws.

Somi has expressed how harsh and severe the training is, most locals would not sit still for the kind of treatment they would be put under at JYP or almost every Kpop label tbf. There would be lawsuits or worse, physical altercations.

TBL is more a production company of grownups. There are no teenagers there as far as i know, it's just a bunch of older dudes who mostly just write or produce songs. Vince, 24, R Tee, Danny, even Zion T hasnt really come out with new albums recently afaik. Somi gets what she puts in, if she doesnt put in, she doesnt get comebacks.

IU was extremely lucky to get rejected by jyp lol

The biggest talent JYPE lost was Bang Si Hyuk,

Artists/idols matter far less than hitmaking producers/songwriters.

But then your senior singer is both.

If Somi stayed in JYP she would still have not debuted

Glad she got out

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The biggest talent JYPE lost was Bang Si Hyuk,

Artists/idols matter far less than hitmaking producers/songwriters.

But then your senior singer is both.

music producers don't necessarily have to be under your company to produce music for your artists tho.

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music producers don't necessarily have to be under your company to produce music for your artists tho.

But music makers under your company can make money by producing for your artists, as well as other company artists.

The point is the "talent earning money", for JYPE.

Everyone knows that JYPE doesn’t care about solo career if you’re a trainee and you want to have a solo career in the future let me tell you something

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If she stayed Chaeryeong would not have debuted or itzy would have had 6 members

You mean Yuna because chaeryeong was in the lineup

The whole of GOT7

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The tale of JYP and Hitman Bang splitting over socks is well known, but Hitman Bang was an employee who just decided to strike out on his own. And it was JYP who had made Bang to set up Big Hit , which ran 2AM since JYP was too busy running other acts (which is why 2AM considers both JYP and Bang as their bosses).

So it is more like a calculated split, and Bang would not be where he is now without BTS, which would never have joined JYP.

If I say in the Bang-BTS combo, it is Bang who matters more, which is true of most artist groups, I will attract the ire of ARMY. And also it is difficult thing to estimate separately.

However, starting from g.o.d Bang has a list of successful groups and songs, BTS being the most successful of his creations.

But we will never know if BTS would be as successful as they are, if they were groomed under a different PD, or if they do so in the future.

Whatever caused that split-up, JYPE lost the person, who turned out to be the most successful post-JYPE - be it putting together groups, songwriting, production or even business.

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If she stayed Chaeryeong would not have debuted or itzy would have had 6 members

I dont think so, Chae was already in the lineup

And Yuna definitely was in too because Itzy debuted not long after she got out

Better than people they choose is debatable tbh. Anyone including IU wouldnt thrive under "shit solo artist management" by JYP

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It seems that she, being raised as a Canadian her whole life, is less tolerant on the Korean practices.

TBK gives her more freedom and leeway and appears to be a better fit for her.

but didn't somi essentially grow up in korea?

she's lived most of her life here though