Toxic/annoying/hardcore kpop stans: Burdens or the reason of success of kpop

reason of success of kpop lol competition

Gaming, sports, movie fans, western pop fans - all have the attributes you mentioned.

Toxic, annoying is more of an individual trait than group imo.

western musicians literally have these types of fanbases too. justin bieber did, one direction did. and what do they have in common with kpop? they're all perceived to be acts only girls like so they're looked down on. female interests will always be belittled and women treated terrible. sports fans act insane over sports matches too, even literally rioting when their teams lose. literally incite violence. but kpop fans are the bane of everyone's existence? also now all fandoms do that fancam spam bs on twitter so no one complains about it bc its not just a kpop stan thing anymore. and its always like that.

the system made us like that

they are the engine behind the rise of kpop

western stans are just as bad

lmao

most of them are racist and misogynistic

nope western stans are also as bad, One direction, Justin beiber, swifties,

When Sports fans exist. Anyways, BTS can't relate.😅

Don't you think the reason Kpop isn't as popular as a genre is because of language?

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nope western stans are also as bad, One direction, Justin beiber, swifties,

Swifties? Wanna fight? huh?

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Swifties? Wanna fight? huh?

I said what I said, come at me

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western musicians literally have these types of fanbases too. justin bieber did, one direction did. and what do they have in common with kpop? they're all perceived to be acts only girls like so they're looked down on. female interests will always be belittled and women treated terrible. sports fans act insane over sports matches too, even literally rioting when their teams lose. literally incite violence. but kpop fans are the bane of everyone's existence? also now all fandoms do that fancam spam bs on twitter so no one complains about it bc its not just a kpop stan thing anymore. and its always like that.

100% agree

I always side eye the idea that women are 'crazy fans'. It happens all the time, the idea of 'hysteric' female fanbase. For music ( boys' bands, kpop ), for books ( Twilight ), for movies...

The truth is that male fans are a lot more likely to physically assault, harm or even kill the person they stan ( John Lenon pretty famous example, but even recently with Christina Grimmie, rip ). But it's fine, and no one talks or generalize about it apparently. One male fan harming an idol is seen as an isolated incident, a woman harming an idol is seen as a proof of a 'toxic' fanbase.

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100% agree

I always side eye the idea that women are 'crazy fans'. It happens all the time, the idea of 'hysteric' female fanbase. For music ( boys' bands, kpop ), for books ( Twilight ), for movies...

The truth is that male fans are a lot more likely to physically assault, harm or even kill the person they stan ( John Lenon pretty famous example, but even recently with Christina Grimmie, rip ). But it's fine, and no one talks or generalize about it apparently. One male fan harming an idol is seen as an isolated incident, a woman harming an idol is seen as a proof of a 'toxic' fanbase.

FR Say it louder, Just because you're a female stan, you're preseved as a crazy delulu stan, while male stans aren't. The hypocrisey

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I said what I said, come at me

what you say? Swifties are much better than directioners & belibers, lmao.

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western musicians literally have these types of fanbases too. justin bieber did, one direction did. and what do they have in common with kpop? they're all perceived to be acts only girls like so they're looked down on. female interests will always be belittled and women treated terrible. sports fans act insane over sports matches too, even literally rioting when their teams lose. literally incite violence. but kpop fans are the bane of everyone's existence? also now all fandoms do that fancam spam bs on twitter so no one complains about it bc its not just a kpop stan thing anymore. and its always like that.

The Beatles’ reputation changed drastically because of that, in the beginning when their fan base consisted of mostly girls they were treated like trash, then years later men woke up and realized that they were actually Not That Bad and now they’re apparently musical geniuses

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what you say? Swifties are much better than directioners & belibers, lmao.

They're all crazy but different levels of crazy

beibers are crazyest, directioner in second, swifties third, fight me

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They're all crazy but different levels of crazy

beibers are crazyest, directioner in second, swifties third, fight me

you have waken up my inner demon, come

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you have waken up my inner demon, come

Let's go at it, until I get my 250 acorns let's fight.

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The Beatles’ reputation changed drastically because of that, in the beginning when their fan base consisted of mostly girls they were treated like trash, then years later men woke up and realized that they were actually Not That Bad and now they’re apparently musical geniuses

So true, and it's happening again with Harry Styles currently. Everyone was shitting on 1D fans for being dumb, tasteless teenagers, but now everyone is hailing him as the new David Bowie or what not.

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So true, and it's happening again with Harry Styles currently. Everyone was shitting on 1D fans for being dumb, tasteless teenagers, but now everyone is hailing him as the new David Bowie or what not.

because he's been pandering to the left

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Let's go at it, until I get my 250 acorns let's fight.

:suggestiver: Whose badge you gonna get?

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western musicians literally have these types of fanbases too. justin bieber did, one direction did. and what do they have in common with kpop? they're all perceived to be acts only girls like so they're looked down on. female interests will always be belittled and women treated terrible. sports fans act insane over sports matches too, even literally rioting when their teams lose. literally incite violence. but kpop fans are the bane of everyone's existence? also now all fandoms do that fancam spam bs on twitter so no one complains about it bc its not just a kpop stan thing anymore. and its always like that.

I agree with everything you say.

I hate when people look down on me when I say I like Kpop. Lİke WTF?

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:suggestiver: Whose badge you gonna get?

Hyunsuk this time, Maybe asahi, idk I'm split between the two.

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Hyunsuk this time, Maybe asahi, idk I'm split between the two.

Get Asahi, I will be the first one to get Hyunsuk. But I have to reach 500 akorns.

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because he's been pandering to the left

Who cares who he has been pandering to.

I'm saying that while he was in 1D, and was seen as 'for teenage girls' he was called talentless, boring, plastic etc... but now suddenly he is the best thing in UK pop since Queen.

Anyway, nothing against Harry Styles tbh, the pattern is just annoying.

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So true, and it's happening again with Harry Styles currently. Everyone was shitting on 1D fans for being dumb, tasteless teenagers, but now everyone is hailing him as the new David Bowie or what not.

I’d say that also partly has to do with him switching genres or at least leaning towards a less pop sound but yeah obviously boy bands are always more directly associated with mindless teenagers

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Let's be honest, kpop has a bad reputation. There are many reasons for that but the main one is annoying/immature/crazy/hardcore kpop stans. The worst thing is that many people think that kpop fans are all the same

So I feel like that without hardcore fans, kpop could be less stereotyped and more popular

But at the same time, maybe without this kind of fans, kpop wouldn't as huge as it is now.

If you think about that... They are the ones who:

- stream like crazy

- bulk buying albums

- spend most of their time on promotion of their faves

- do twitter things

- etc.

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You can do all that without being toxic.

People don't hate Kpop fans for doing the above, they are hated for dragging other artists unnecessarily, and posting Kpop clips on inappropriate tweets. And worse yet, toxic fans that act like that can also spend $0 on Kpop.

So no, Kpop can benefit from hardcore fans, but no one need toxic fans or people anywhere, not just Kpop

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Get Asahi, I will be the first one to get Hyunsuk. But I have to reach 500 akorns.

Wait no back off I'm getting hyunsuk, you can get asahi first, and why 500? can't you get it for 250

Wait nvm you already used your 4 sales huh

well, good luck You'll need it

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Wait no back off I'm getting hyunsuk, you can get asahi first, and why 500? can't you get it for 250

Wait nvm you already used your 4 sales huh

well, good luck You'll need it

You kid, how could you get Hyunsuk's ?

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You kid, how could you get Hyunsuk's ?

It's too late

Do you like it?

and just to stay on topic so I don't get another wp which takes away my profile picture, the reason of success is those hardcore stans.

Discussions like these are so annoying. Sports fans will literally destroy a whole city but being a sports fan is still respected. We know there’s crazy kpop fans but it’s not realistic to think we could get rid of all of them. Also who are trying to earn respect from? Other crazy fanbases? The media that has no respect for others? Kpop fans have been on the news recently for more good then bad and you still haven’t found the respect you’re looking for then all I have to say is good luck Charlie

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It's too late

Do you like it?

and just to stay on topic so I don't get another wp which takes away my profile picture, the reason of success is those hardcore stans.

It looks great. I am still trying to get 500 akorns. So you got wp for not staying on topic? Did someone report you?

Yes the reason of success is those hardcore stans.

ok

Yeah especially the spamming Kpop fancams under any twt especially twts that have nothing to do with Kpop

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It looks great. I am still trying to get 500 akorns. So you got wp for not staying on topic? Did someone report you?

Yes the reason of success is those hardcore stans.

Wait, someone has to report me for me to get one? I'm coming for you whoever it was,

and try to spam some threads to get some, and yeah I now have three, my sig is gone

And ofc with out those hardcore stans, there wouldn't be the kpop there is today

The short answer is it's not the fans, it's just a combination of misogyny, but mostly racism/xenophobia. As others have mentioned, the behavior is not unique. People in the west just tend to be more critical of it because of who it's coming from (or at least the perception of it as largely teenager girls which is not necessarily true), and who the object of the obsession is, which is Asian people (mostly Asian men) that are largely seen as a joke not to be taken seriously in mainstream western media.

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Wait, someone has to report me for me to get one? I'm coming for you whoever it was,

and try to spam some threads to get some, and yeah I now have three, my sig is gone

And ofc with out those hardcore stans, there wouldn't be the kpop there is today

If mods haven't found out it themselves I guess they would know it if someone reports it, I guess.

Is there any opportunity to get your sig back?

But because of hardcore stans kpop is still a joke.