I don’t understand why Army got angry when Billboards just states the facts about what fandom is doing?

because it hurts them that someone tells them that they are a fandom that manipulates the charts

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With today news of Meghan x BTS, while Meghan

did something happen mid post OP?? finish your post

looks like the mods cut you off mid sentence.

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looks like the mods cut you off mid sentence.

ARMY got to her mid sentence lmao

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ARMY got to her mid sentence l

so you are a stray kids fan you are very brave

It's a valid question tbh. I don't think RM got mad at it. BTS have been asked way worse questions, so why the uproar over this? Nobody dragged Ellen when she asked them if they date their fans. Plus, BB is very shady, aren't all of these news places shady when they interview idols?

Edit: Ok nvm Ellen got dragged sorry army.

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so you are a stray kids fan you are very brave

u mad? im an army to

Cause it was a shitty article with someone who clearly views KPOP is a certain way, and the answers seemed weird af, it looks HIGHLY edited. and why ask an artist about fandom activities? Like wtf is RM suppose to do/say?

this was never an issue when Bieber was begging his fans to mass stream playlists, or companies using bundles, if billboard doesn't like mass buying they can lower sales(I think they should)

they act like BB hot 100 was some perfect chart and is now forever tainted by BTS ARMY lol

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that isnt true.. she got lots of hate for that lol

How exactly are they “manipulating charts”??

I need bullet point proof evidence of this hidden conspiracy theory that army are manipulating the charts because the way people talk about this is very strange... where is the factual evidence? Don't all fandoms do this? Kpop fans are very competitive, especially those in one fandom. Yet why does BTS get flack for it? what did army do?

So people buying music is chart manipulation? That doesn't seem correct to me.

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Money funded oversea to buy music in the US. I think it’s clearly chart manipulation

Cry and weep about it.

Let’s see the same energy for Justin fans, dua fans and 1D fans and basically every single artist out there

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Money funded oversea to buy music in the US. I think it’s clearly chart manipulation

The store in the US that I buy my Twice albums from is registered with Hanteo and Gaon. So my sales are contributing to the Hanteo and Gaon chart in South Korea. Am I manipulating those charts?

I don't think so. I'm just a fan that buying the music from my favorite group. Why is people outside the US buying music inside the US any different?

Can this thread be named the Official crying about ARMYS/BTS chart manipulation thread?

All 5-6 of you can discuss to your hearts content in here, cry about ARMYs and stop entering or making other threads

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I think using the money funded oversea to buy music in the US clearly a type of manipulation.

So this why people are salty af!? Lmfao

Its not their money so wtf is the problem?

they can do what ever they want as long as

they re following the bb rules.

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The store in the US that I buy my Twice albums from is registered with Hanteo and Gaon. So my sales are contributing to the Hanteo and Gaon chart in South Korea. Am I manipulating those charts?

I don't think so. I'm just a fan that buying the music from my favorite group. Why is people outside the US buying music inside the US any different?

Except they aren’t. US and PR armys are the ones buying the music which contributes to BB US.

So why arent they asking western artists about their actual chart manipulation, bundles, payola, paid playlisting and discovery mode in their cover stories? But fans buying music, with no manipulation from artists or labels side is suddenly a problem? Giving a platform to racist mpg stans is fine?

Billboard is a western industry mouthpiece, its run by the same company as THR and they are clearly on a mission to paint a picture of BTS as unorganic, typical kpop puppet group, only appealing to a limited group of fangirls. Western industry approved artists dont get that treatment.

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JB got a lot of hate on what he did.

Bundles rules was changed to be stricter.

Nicki no.1 BB a also got hate, Taylor lower her music price for No.1 also got call out.

There is no way BTS with the fandom manipulation doing for 9 weeks at No.1 get exemption.

Show me the evidence of BB directly interviewing them about this esp using troll accs and other fan accs from twt as source.

Personally, i'm jealous of Army fandom power. If all my fave acts had fanbases as big and powerful as Army, they would all be millionaires getting everything they deserve.

Even Msnake, Starshit, and the other labels would never entertain a single thought of disbanding Izone if they were bringing in 5M albums per comeback and charting on Hot 100 and Melon. They would keep the gravy train going forever if they could. I would be getting Izone content indefinitely, and all this rage in my soul would have never existed in the first place.

When people like me point out BTS' reliance on fandom power to chart, Army should be laughing in my face instead of getting defensive about it.

Look at Eunbi and Soyeon's recent releases. Two new soloists from my fave groups, and here i am applauding them for 30-40k album sales (which are actually good numbers for solo female acts). But imagine if they were getting 1M-2M sales like a Jimin or JK or V solo release would get. Imagine if they were charting in Hot 100 and Melon.

You wanted your own hit thread? Because you are not bringing anything different or unique to the table, than what the previous 4, 5 akp threads haven't.

You want your answers? Go read them. ARMYs have answered and debated about them in detail.

As for AKP ARMYs... kindly ignore this thread and block the OP with other bored individuals like them. Let's enjoy the remix!! It is uploaded on both channels, you can "manipulate" and "stream" both.

CheerssS!

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You wanted your own hit thread? Because you are not bringing anything different or unique to the table, than what the previous 4, 5 akp threads haven't.

You want your answers? Go read them. ARMYs have answered and debated about them in detail.

As for AKP ARMYs... kindly ignore this thread and block the OP with other bored individuals like them. Let's enjoy the remix!! It is uploaded on both channels, you can "manipulate" and "stream" both.

CheerssS!

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LETS MANIPULATE THE CHARTS BORAHAE BITCHES

This is what is wrong with the article.

this is the dude obssessed with every bts charting thread. omg

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But that is chart manipulation and people care about that.

But every artist/s fandoms are doing that

some are even worse so what is the problem?

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This is what is wrong with the article.

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Don’t bother with these losers. You can never wake up a fool who is pretending to be asleep. They are acting ignorant and obtuse on purpose cos their hate boner for BTS is bigger than anything.

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Don’t bother with these losers. You can never wake up a fool who is pretending to be asleep. They are acting ignorant and obtuse on purpose cos their hate boner for BTS is bigger than anything.

Theyre probably bitter that their own fandom cant achieve anything despite having the same funding schemes. They just lack the actual fans in US to buy the songs.

Bots .. go stream and lets manipulate the charts so that losers can make more threads to cry abt. 🧈👅

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LETS MANIPULATE THE CHARTS BORAHAE BITCHES

LET'S PAINT THE WORLD PINK!!!!

AND MANIPULATE SOME CHARTS AS A SIDE JOB

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Theyre probably bitter that their own fandom cant achieve anything despite having the same funding schemes. They just lack the actual fans in US to buy the songs.

I mean they are more obsessed with BTS than their faves. They should redirect this energy into supporting their faves instead of camping in the BTS hate train